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Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. when I go to my profile and then try to change the town I am in, no longer in that town, and if I then type in the edit field for skype 8.29, and then or skype windows 8.28, windows 10 64 bit pro and using jaws 2018. Then if I press on the menu, takes me to the skype site or signs me out. Is there a way to change it, did change it on the site, but not sure if changed in the app. Also with jaws, if I press alt, nothing happens and cannot move left and right arrow, have to press alt f, e, v, t, h etc.

Any ideas or work arounds and has any one posted this bug feedback to Microsoft.

Thanks.


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Doug Lee
 

The Alt+F/E/H etc. commands are probably provided for our convenience. To my knowledge, there is actually no menu bar in Skype 8; so the Alt key will not go anywhere by itself.

I think you are taken to a website to edit your location, but I don't fully understand your paragraph about that process.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:53:48PM +0930, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi. when I go to my profile and then try to change the town I am in, no
longer in that town, and if I then type in the edit field for skype
8.29, and then or skype windows 8.28, windows 10 64 bit pro and using
jaws 2018. Then if I press on the menu, takes me to the skype site or
signs me out. Is there a way to change it, did change it on the site,
but not sure if changed in the app. Also with jaws, if I press alt,
nothing happens and cannot move left and right arrow, have to press alt
f, e, v, t, h etc.

Any ideas or work arounds and has any one posted this bug feedback to
Microsoft.

Thanks.

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Hello Doug,

Actually, strangely enough, there is a menubar in Skype 8 Desktop (at least in the one for Windows). The menubar however is hidden by default and it is not visually on the screen. When Alt is pressed though, the focus does not move to it. I've reported this bug to Microsoft via the Feedback Hub in Windows 10, but this hasn't been fixed yet, even in the insider builds of Skype 8 Desktop.

And by the way, the people using Skype 8 in english are lucky to be able to use keyboard commands such as Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. When Skype 8 is in bulgarian for example, those commands do not work at all. In most localized to bulgarian applications, pressing Alt+Ф (that is the equivalent of F for the cyrillic alphabet), opens the "File" menu if available. In Skype 8 however, even that does not work. And no surprise that it does not - there are no accelerators defined for those menus in the bulgarian translation of Skype 8 (there are no letters there underlined). The reason for no accelerators may be automated translation of those menus - who knows... 😀

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 29.8.2018 г. в 10:26, Doug Lee написа:

The Alt+F/E/H etc. commands are probably provided for our convenience. To my knowledge, there is actually no menu bar in Skype 8; so the Alt key will not go anywhere by itself.

I think you are taken to a website to edit your location, but I don't fully understand your paragraph about that process.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:53:48PM +0930, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
   Hi. when I go to my profile and then try to change the town I am in, no
   longer in that town, and if I then type in the edit field for skype
   8.29, and then or skype windows 8.28, windows 10 64 bit pro and using
   jaws 2018. Then if I press on the menu, takes me to the skype site or
   signs me out. Is there a way to change it, did change it on the site,
   but not sure if changed in the app. Also with jaws, if I press alt,
   nothing happens and cannot move left and right arrow, have to press alt
   f, e, v, t, h etc.

   Any ideas or work arounds and has any one posted this bug feedback to
   Microsoft.

   Thanks.

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Doug Lee
 

Hidden by default, you say. Does this mean you know a way to make a menubar surface in Skype 8 for Windows Desktop? I only glanced quickly, but I saw no indication in window, MSAA, or UIA structures that a menubar is present at
all in the application; so I assumed that the Alt+F/E/H etc. hotkeys were simply tied directly to functions without there being an associated menubar. When you say File etc. have no underlined letters though, it again sounds
like you have seen an actual menubar somehow.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:59:06AM +0300, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
Hello Doug,

Actually, strangely enough, there is a menubar in Skype 8 Desktop (at
least in the one for Windows). The menubar however is hidden by default
and it is not visually on the screen. When Alt is pressed though, the
focus does not move to it. I've reported this bug to Microsoft via the
Feedback Hub in Windows 10, but this hasn't been fixed yet, even in the
insider builds of Skype 8 Desktop.

And by the way, the people using Skype 8 in english are lucky to be
able to use keyboard commands such as Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. When Skype 8
is in bulgarian for example, those commands do not work at all. In most
localized to bulgarian applications, pressing Alt+F (that is the
equivalent of F for the cyrillic alphabet), opens the "File" menu if
available. In Skype 8 however, even that does not work. And no surprise
that it does not - there are no accelerators defined for those menus in
the bulgarian translation of Skype 8 (there are no letters there
underlined). The reason for no accelerators may be automated
translation of those menus - who knows...

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

Na 29.8.2018 g. v 10:26, Doug Lee napisa:

The Alt+F/E/H etc. commands are probably provided for our convenience. To my kno
wledge, there is actually no menu bar in Skype 8; so the Alt key will not go any
where by itself.

I think you are taken to a website to edit your location, but I don't fully unde
rstand your paragraph about that process.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:53:48PM +0930, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi. when I go to my profile and then try to change the town I am in, no
longer in that town, and if I then type in the edit field for skype
8.29, and then or skype windows 8.28, windows 10 64 bit pro and using
jaws 2018. Then if I press on the menu, takes me to the skype site or
signs me out. Is there a way to change it, did change it on the site,
but not sure if changed in the app. Also with jaws, if I press alt,
nothing happens and cannot move left and right arrow, have to press alt
f, e, v, t, h etc.

Any ideas or work arounds and has any one posted this bug feedback to
Microsoft.

Thanks.

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Hello Doug,

Yes, when I press Alt from within the Skype 8's window, the menubar with the menus appears on the top, right below the titlebar of the window. I can visually see it appear there.

Actually, I've now checked and it turns out that the accelerator letters are not underlined in the menus even when Skype 8 is in english, but the commands like Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. do still work.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 29.8.2018 г. в 20:12, Doug Lee написа:

Hidden by default, you say. Does this mean you know a way to make a menubar surface in Skype 8 for Windows Desktop? I only glanced quickly, but I saw no indication in window, MSAA, or UIA structures that a menubar is present at
all in the application; so I assumed that the Alt+F/E/H etc. hotkeys were simply tied directly to functions without there being an associated menubar. When you say File etc. have no underlined letters though, it again sounds
like you have seen an actual menubar somehow.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:59:06AM +0300, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
   Hello Doug,

   Actually, strangely enough, there is a menubar in Skype 8 Desktop (at
   least in the one for Windows). The menubar however is hidden by default
   and it is not visually on the screen. When Alt is pressed though, the
   focus does not move to it. I've reported this bug to Microsoft via the
   Feedback Hub in Windows 10, but this hasn't been fixed yet, even in the
   insider builds of Skype 8 Desktop.

   And by the way, the people using Skype 8 in english are lucky to be
   able to use keyboard commands such as Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. When Skype 8
   is in bulgarian for example, those commands do not work at all. In most
   localized to bulgarian applications, pressing Alt+F (that is the
   equivalent of F for the cyrillic alphabet), opens the "File" menu if
   available. In Skype 8 however, even that does not work. And no surprise
   that it does not - there are no accelerators defined for those menus in
   the bulgarian translation of Skype 8 (there are no letters there
   underlined). The reason for no accelerators may be automated
   translation of those menus - who knows...

   ______
   Best wishes,
   Kostadin Kolev

   Na 29.8.2018 g. v 10:26, Doug Lee napisa:

The Alt+F/E/H etc. commands are probably provided for our convenience. To my kno
wledge, there is actually no menu bar in Skype 8; so the Alt key will not go any
where by itself.

I think you are taken to a website to edit your location, but I don't fully unde
rstand your paragraph about that process.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:53:48PM +0930, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
   Hi. when I go to my profile and then try to change the town I am in, no
   longer in that town, and if I then type in the edit field for skype
   8.29, and then or skype windows 8.28, windows 10 64 bit pro and using
   jaws 2018. Then if I press on the menu, takes me to the skype site or
   signs me out. Is there a way to change it, did change it on the site,
   but not sure if changed in the app. Also with jaws, if I press alt,
   nothing happens and cannot move left and right arrow, have to press alt
   f, e, v, t, h etc.

   Any ideas or work arounds and has any one posted this bug feedback to
   Microsoft.

   Thanks.

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Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. okay, I press on my name, and the settings, when it has the name of my location, and a button, town and country, then hear the menu, and the edit field and the copy link, then I put it in, press enter, the menu comes up, press enter, then either takes me to the site or signs me out. Thanks.

Ps: try doing that yourself.


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Doug Lee
 

I did try it myself before writing last time. :-) It took me to the site to edit that information, so I said I think that's just what it does. Not sure why you got signed out though.

My specific sequence for comparison, both then and now:
- Space on my name in main screen.
- Space on my location button (the button's name is my current location).
- Select "Edit" from the resulting menu.
- The website opens for me to edit there.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 03:52:06PM +0930, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi. okay, I press on my name, and the settings, when it has the name of
my location, and a button, town and country, then hear the menu, and
the edit field and the copy link, then I put it in, press enter, the
menu comes up, press enter, then either takes me to the site or signs
me out. Thanks.

Ps: try doing that yourself.

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Doug Lee
 

Quoting an old message below to ask a folow-up question on it...

I no longer find that the Alt+letter commands like Alt+V, Alt+T, etc., work in Skype 8.38. Those corresponded to a menu bar that was supposed to be visible if you pressed Alt.

Does this menu bar still exist in Skype 8.38? I never managed to find it with any tools I tried, though I did not try to get my own visual comfirmation.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 08:34:35PM +0300, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
Hello Doug,

Yes, when I press Alt from within the Skype 8's window, the menubar
with the menus appears on the top, right below the titlebar of the
window. I can visually see it appear there.

Actually, I've now checked and it turns out that the accelerator
letters are not underlined in the menus even when Skype 8 is in
english, but the commands like Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. do still work.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

Na 29.8.2018 g. v 20:12, Doug Lee napisa:

Hidden by default, you say. Does this mean you know a way to make a menubar surf
ace in Skype 8 for Windows Desktop? I only glanced quickly, but I saw no indicat
ion in window, MSAA, or UIA structures that a menubar is present at
all in the application; so I assumed that the Alt+F/E/H etc. hotkeys were simply
tied directly to functions without there being an associated menubar. When you
say File etc. have no underlined letters though, it again sounds
like you have seen an actual menubar somehow.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:59:06AM +0300, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
Hello Doug,

Actually, strangely enough, there is a menubar in Skype 8 Desktop (at
least in the one for Windows). The menubar however is hidden by default
and it is not visually on the screen. When Alt is pressed though, the
focus does not move to it. I've reported this bug to Microsoft via the
Feedback Hub in Windows 10, but this hasn't been fixed yet, even in the
insider builds of Skype 8 Desktop.

And by the way, the people using Skype 8 in english are lucky to be
able to use keyboard commands such as Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. When Skype 8
is in bulgarian for example, those commands do not work at all. In most
localized to bulgarian applications, pressing Alt+F (that is the
equivalent of F for the cyrillic alphabet), opens the "File" menu if
available. In Skype 8 however, even that does not work. And no surprise
that it does not - there are no accelerators defined for those menus in
the bulgarian translation of Skype 8 (there are no letters there
underlined). The reason for no accelerators may be automated
translation of those menus - who knows...

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

Na 29.8.2018 g. v 10:26, Doug Lee napisa:

The Alt+F/E/H etc. commands are probably provided for our convenience. To my kno
wledge, there is actually no menu bar in Skype 8; so the Alt key will not go any
where by itself.

I think you are taken to a website to edit your location, but I don't fully unde
rstand your paragraph about that process.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:53:48PM +0930, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi. when I go to my profile and then try to change the town I am in, no
longer in that town, and if I then type in the edit field for skype
8.29, and then or skype windows 8.28, windows 10 64 bit pro and using
jaws 2018. Then if I press on the menu, takes me to the skype site or
signs me out. Is there a way to change it, did change it on the site,
but not sure if changed in the app. Also with jaws, if I press alt,
nothing happens and cannot move left and right arrow, have to press alt
f, e, v, t, h etc.

Any ideas or work arounds and has any one posted this bug feedback to
Microsoft.

Thanks.

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and the battles are not between me and you,
but between you and you, and between me and me. (08/15/2009)


 

Hello Doug,

I'm running a test build of Skype - 8.39.76.181 and the menubar still appears visually if I press ALT. Keyboard commands like Alt+F, Alt+E, Alt+V, etc. still work when Skype is in english.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 13.2.2019 г. в 1:47, Doug Lee написа:

Quoting an old message below to ask a folow-up question on it...

I no longer find that the Alt+letter commands like Alt+V, Alt+T, etc., work in Skype 8.38. Those corresponded to a menu bar that was supposed to be visible if you pressed Alt.

Does this menu bar still exist in Skype 8.38? I never managed to find it with any tools I tried, though I did not try to get my own visual comfirmation.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 08:34:35PM +0300, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
   Hello Doug,

   Yes, when I press Alt from within the Skype 8's window, the menubar
   with the menus appears on the top, right below the titlebar of the
   window. I can visually see it appear there.

   Actually, I've now checked and it turns out that the accelerator
   letters are not underlined in the menus even when Skype 8 is in
   english, but the commands like Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. do still work.

   ______
   Best wishes,
   Kostadin Kolev

   Na 29.8.2018 g. v 20:12, Doug Lee napisa:

Hidden by default, you say. Does this mean you know a way to make a menubar surf
ace in Skype 8 for Windows Desktop? I only glanced quickly, but I saw no indicat
ion in window, MSAA, or UIA structures that a menubar is present at
all in the application; so I assumed that the Alt+F/E/H etc. hotkeys were simply
 tied directly to functions without there being an associated menubar. When you
say File etc. have no underlined letters though, it again sounds
like you have seen an actual menubar somehow.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:59:06AM +0300, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
   Hello Doug,

   Actually, strangely enough, there is a menubar in Skype 8 Desktop (at
   least in the one for Windows). The menubar however is hidden by default
   and it is not visually on the screen. When Alt is pressed though, the
   focus does not move to it. I've reported this bug to Microsoft via the
   Feedback Hub in Windows 10, but this hasn't been fixed yet, even in the
   insider builds of Skype 8 Desktop.

   And by the way, the people using Skype 8 in english are lucky to be
   able to use keyboard commands such as Alt+F, Alt+E, etc. When Skype 8
   is in bulgarian for example, those commands do not work at all. In most
   localized to bulgarian applications, pressing Alt+F (that is the
   equivalent of F for the cyrillic alphabet), opens the "File" menu if
   available. In Skype 8 however, even that does not work. And no surprise
   that it does not - there are no accelerators defined for those menus in
   the bulgarian translation of Skype 8 (there are no letters there
   underlined). The reason for no accelerators may be automated
   translation of those menus - who knows...

   ______
   Best wishes,
   Kostadin Kolev

   Na 29.8.2018 g. v 10:26, Doug Lee napisa:

The Alt+F/E/H etc. commands are probably provided for our convenience. To my kno
wledge, there is actually no menu bar in Skype 8; so the Alt key will not go any
where by itself.

I think you are taken to a website to edit your location, but I don't fully unde
rstand your paragraph about that process.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:53:48PM +0930, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
   Hi. when I go to my profile and then try to change the town I am in, no
   longer in that town, and if I then type in the edit field for skype
   8.29, and then or skype windows 8.28, windows 10 64 bit pro and using
   jaws 2018. Then if I press on the menu, takes me to the skype site or
   signs me out. Is there a way to change it, did change it on the site,
   but not sure if changed in the app. Also with jaws, if I press alt,
   nothing happens and cannot move left and right arrow, have to press alt
   f, e, v, t, h etc.

   Any ideas or work arounds and has any one posted this bug feedback to
   Microsoft.

   Thanks.

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