Missing characters when typing messages in Skype with JAWS
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Hi all,
is anyone else noticing dropped characters when typing new messages in Skype? I am using JAWS 2022.2202.38 and revision 220 of the Skype scripts. I find this especially noticeable once the first misspelling has occurred. I use a Braille display in addition to speech. Skype is version 8.82.0.404.
Thanks! Marco
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Doug Lee
I haven't noticed any coincidence between spelling corrections and dropped characters, but I have occasionally
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noticed dropped characters and have done my best to reduce the frequency of this issue, mostly by suspending the typing sounds while you are typing into that box. That's why you may notice that the typing sound for the other person stops for a few seconds every time you start typing at your end. I don't know specifically why this character loss happens, but I do know these things: 1. The issue applies to multiple Electron-based apps; Skype is an Electron app. 2. The issue is related to how much work JAWS is doing while you type. 3. The loss of characters implies to me that JAWS can lose characters if keyboard events happen faster than JAWS can process them. Although the newer but not default "unified" keyboard handler may resolve this, I suspect it would currently create other problems; and I have not tested that theory yet. On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 06:32:19PM +0000, Marco Zehe wrote:
Hi all, Â is anyone else noticing dropped characters when typing new messages in Skype? I am using JAWS 2022.2202.38 and revision 220 of the Skype scripts. I find this especially noticeable once the first misspelling has occurred. I use a Braille display in addition to speech. Skype is version 8.82.0.404. Â Thanks! Marco -- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!') but rather 'hmm.... that's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov |
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If this is not an April fools joke, are the missing characters also not showing up on a braille display, also what version of skype are you using, what version of and build of windows, and what have you done to troubleshoot. If this is an April fools joke, disregard my questions. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. . to subscribe to the feed click here Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and odysee. Thanks Restream staff. Videos of some of our podcasts can be found on odysee You can support the podcast by subscribing via the tip jar. You will get early access episodes plus no adds. If you cannot do that, then leave a 5 star rating on our podcast using your podcast directory's rating system. On 1 Apr 2022, at 11:32, Marco Zehe wrote:
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Michele Barbi
Guys I didn't notice this issue when using Skype, though I did in other applications.
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Thanks, Doug, I started noticing this problem fairly recently, and it may or may not have coincided with me starting to use your scripts for Skype. I had not used your scripts before, but had used Skype, and hadn't noticed the problem previously. However, Skype also got the update to the 8.82.0.404 version recently, so I was wondering, and am probably going start hunting down, which of them might be the culprit.
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Thanks, Marco -----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Lee via groups.io Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 9:33 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Missing characters when typing messages in Skype with JAWS I haven't noticed any coincidence between spelling corrections and dropped characters, but I have occasionally noticed dropped characters and have done my best to reduce the frequency of this issue, mostly by suspending the typing sounds while you are typing into that box. That's why you may notice that the typing sound for the other person stops for a few seconds every time you start typing at your end. I don't know specifically why this character loss happens, but I do know these things: 1. The issue applies to multiple Electron-based apps; Skype is an Electron app. 2. The issue is related to how much work JAWS is doing while you type. 3. The loss of characters implies to me that JAWS can lose characters if keyboard events happen faster than JAWS can process them. Although the newer but not default "unified" keyboard handler may resolve this, I suspect it would currently create other problems; and I have not tested that theory yet. On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 06:32:19PM +0000, Marco Zehe wrote: Hi all, Â is anyone else noticing dropped characters when typing new messages in Skype? I am using JAWS 2022.2202.38 and revision 220 of the Skype scripts. I find this especially noticeable once the first misspelling has occurred. I use a Braille display in addition to speech. Skype is version 8.82.0.404. Â Thanks! Marco -- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!') but rather 'hmm.... that's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov |
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Hi Sarah,
no, this is definitely not an April fools joke. In fact I didn’t even think about the date when posting.
Yes, the missing characters show up on the Braille display and with speech. In fact they even produce misspelling warnings because the characters are missing. Once inserted, the spelling error goes away. It’s Skype 8.82.0.404, on Windows 11, currently in Insider Beta.
Marco
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 10:43 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Missing characters when typing messages in Skype with JAWS
If this is not an April fools joke, are the missing characters also not showing up on a braille display, also what version of skype are you using, what version of and build of windows, and what have you done to troubleshoot. If this is an April fools joke, disregard my questions. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. . to subscribe to the feed click here Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and odysee. Thanks Restream staff. Videos of some of our podcasts can be found on odysee You can support the podcast by subscribing via the tip jar. You will get early access episodes plus no adds. If you cannot do that, then leave a 5 star rating on our podcast using your podcast directory's rating system. On 1 Apr 2022, at 11:32, Marco Zehe wrote:
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Oh. Ok, try disabling the scripts for jaws first is what I would do, then try reproducing the error(s) I call them errors even though they are technically not. Good luck. And, thanks for understanding when I was asking if this was an April fools joke. I meant no snark by that.
Happy Saturday to all.
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Zehe
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 12:17 AM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Missing characters when typing messages in Skype with JAWS
Hi Sarah,
no, this is definitely not an April fools joke. In fact I didn’t even think about the date when posting.
Yes, the missing characters show up on the Braille display and with speech. In fact they even produce misspelling warnings because the characters are missing. Once inserted, the spelling error goes away. It’s Skype 8.82.0.404, on Windows 11, currently in Insider Beta.
Marco
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami via groups.io
If this is not an April fools joke, are the missing characters also not showing up on a braille display, also what version of skype are you using, what version of and build of windows, and what have you done to troubleshoot. If this is an April fools joke, disregard my questions. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. . to subscribe to the feed click here Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and odysee. Thanks Restream staff. Videos of some of our podcasts can be found on odysee You can support the podcast by subscribing via the tip jar. You will get early access episodes plus no adds. If you cannot do that, then leave a 5 star rating on our podcast using your podcast directory's rating system. On 1 Apr 2022, at 11:32, Marco Zehe wrote:
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