Help with history dividers
Léonie Watson
The release notes for version 73 of the Skype Electron scripts includes this new feature:
"Speech and Braille indicate chat history dividers like "Today" and "Yesterday" as they are jumped over during history navigation with arrows. This material is spoken in a lower voice to distinguish it from the newly selected history entry." Can someone let me know how to access this information? Using the arrow keys doesn't seem to cause the announcements, but I think the note references this, so I'm stuck as to how it's supposed to work. Using Jaws 2019 on Windows 10, in case that info helps. Thanks. Léonie. -- @LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem
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Doug Lee
As you arrow past a divider, like "Today," JAWS should say the divider's text as you arrow down and the text with the word "leaving" before it as you arrow up. So, when you arrow down to the first message under "today," JAWS
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should say "Today" in a lower voice before announcing the new message. When you arrow up away from that message, JAWS should say "Leaving today," to indicate that you are leaving that section of the message history. If you are not hearing these messages and you know that you are crossing dividers, let me know which Skype 8 version you are running (Ctrl+Ins+V should tell you) and which JAWS version.
On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 12:51:16PM +0000, L??onie Watson wrote:
The release notes for version 73 of the Skype Electron scripts includes this new feature: "Speech and Braille indicate chat history dividers like "Today" and "Yesterday" as they are jumped over during history navigation with arrows. This material is spoken in a lower voice to distinguish it from the newly selected history entry." Can someone let me know how to access this information? Using the arrow keys doesn't seem to cause the announcements, but I think the note references this, so I'm stuck as to how it's supposed to work. Using Jaws 2019 on Windows 10, in case that info helps. Thanks. L??onie. -- @LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "All these years, the people said, 'He's acting like a kid.' He did not know he could not fly, so he did." --Guy Clark, "The Cape" (Dublin Blues)
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Michele Barbi
Hey Doug, do you need the JAWS complete build number? Our friend already told us, JAWS 2019 is installed on Windows 10.
Bye! Barbuz
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Doug Lee
The more important number is the full Skype version number; but since I see no obvious cause for this situation, I'm trying to be as specific as I can about where it occurs. :-)
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On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 05:18:13PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hey Doug, do you need the JAWS complete build number? Our friend already told us, JAWS 2019 is installed on Windows 10. Bye! Barbuz -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!') but rather 'hmm.... that's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov
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Will this work in nvda? I use nvda, or do I need to use my heading keys for this. I don't use skype with nvda on windows anymore, but if I ever have to, thought I'd ask here.
On 28 Dec 2018, at 8:39, Doug Lee wrote:
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Léonie Watson
Thanks Doug. I'm sorry, it is in fact working, but I needed to restart Jaws after installing the scripts for it to happen.
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Very glad to have this feature. Thank you.
On 28/12/2018 13:45, Doug Lee wrote:
As you arrow past a divider, like "Today," JAWS should say the divider's text as you arrow down and the text with the word "leaving" before it as you arrow up. So, when you arrow down to the first message under "today," JAWS --
@LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem
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Doug Lee
I have not written this feature for NVDA.
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On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 09:26:16AM -0800, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Will this work in nvda? I use nvda, or do I need to use my heading keys for this. I don't use skype with nvda on windows anymore, but if I ever have to, thought I'd ask here. On 28 Dec 2018, at 8:39, Doug Lee wrote: The more important number is the full Skype version number; but since I see no obvious cause for this situation, I'm trying to be as specific as I can about where it occurs. :-) On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 05:18:13PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote: Hey Doug, do you need the JAWS complete build number? Our friend already told us, JAWS 2019 is installed on Windows 10. Bye! Barbuz -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org [1]http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com [2]http://www.LevelAccess.com "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!') but rather 'hmm.... that's funny...'" -- Isaac Asimov References 1. http://www.dlee.org/ 2. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 3. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/3595 4. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Help%20with%20history%20dividers 5. mailto:marrie12@gmail.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Help%20with%20history%20dividers 6. https://groups.io/mt/28872458/409874 7. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post 8. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874 10. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io 11. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "Innovation is hard to schedule." -- Dan Fylstra
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No worries, I'll test it with the add ons I do have if I'm ever forced to use skype under windows, let's hope that time is never. I like the interface but the mac's one is better in my humble opinion. Blessings and happy Friday
On 28 Dec 2018, at 11:31, Doug Lee wrote:
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Mike DeZinno
Hello All,
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Could someone please let me know if the following configuration of my Windows 10 lap top, running Jaws 2019, is correctly set up? It says I'm running: Skype version 8.36.0.52 Insert q says: Revision 73 Skype for windows desktop 8(electron) settings are loaded The application currently being used is Skype exe Skype.exe I'm having a bit of trouble getting the key combos to read messages from the groups I belong to, which in Skype 7, with Doug's older scripts, on a windows7 lap top I had no trouble figuring out over the years and am trying hard to get back to a minimal level of proficiency. I have gone to several documents for new up dated keystrokes but again I'm not even coming close to the level of skill I once had. Am I doing something wrong or is it just the nature of the current beast! LOL Any help is greatly appreciated, Mike, in SC
At 08:45 AM 12/28/2018, you wrote:
As you arrow past a divider, like "Today," JAWS should say the divider's text as you arrow down and the text with the word "leaving" before it as you arrow up. So, when you arrow down to the first message under "today," JAWS
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Doug Lee
I am running the same JAWS, Skype, and script versions as you, and also under Windows 10.
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But which key combos are not working? I was not able to implement Alt+numbers in Skype 8 as I did in Skype 7 because of the way messages are presented in UIA/MSAA to JAWS. [ e and [ h key sequences move focus to the input and history boxes, respectively. In the history list, arrows read messages.
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 09:25:43PM -0500, Mike DeZinno wrote:
Hello All, Could someone please let me know if the following configuration of my Windows 10 lap top, running Jaws 2019, is correctly set up? It says I'm running: Skype version 8.36.0.52 Insert q says: Revision 73 Skype for windows desktop 8(electron) settings are loaded The application currently being used is Skype exe Skype.exe I'm having a bit of trouble getting the key combos to read messages from the groups I belong to, which in Skype 7, with Doug's older scripts, on a windows7 lap top I had no trouble figuring out over the years and am trying hard to get back to a minimal level of proficiency. I have gone to several documents for new up dated keystrokes but again I'm not even coming close to the level of skill I once had. Am I doing something wrong or is it just the nature of the current beast! LOL Any help is greatly appreciated, Mike, in SC At 08:45 AM 12/28/2018, you wrote: As you arrow past a divider, like "Today," JAWS should say the divider's text as you arrow down and the text with the word "leaving" before it as you arrow up. So, when you arrow down to the first message under "today," JAWS should say "Today" in a lower voice before announcing the new message. When you arrow up away from that message, JAWS should say "Leaving today," to indicate that you are leaving that section of the message history. If you are not hearing these messages and you know that you are crossing dividers, let me know which Skype 8 version you are running (Ctrl+Ins+V should tell you) and which JAWS version. On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 12:51:16PM +0000, L??onie Watson wrote: The release notes for version 73 of the Skype Electron scripts includes this new feature: "Speech and Braille indicate chat history dividers like "Today" and "Yesterday" as they are jumped over during history navigation with arrows. This material is spoken in a lower voice to distinguish it from the newly selected history entry." Can someone let me know how to access this information? Using the arrow keys doesn't seem to cause the announcements, but I think the note references this, so I'm stuck as to how it's supposed to work. Using Jaws 2019 on Windows 10, in case that info helps. Thanks. L??onie. -- @LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org [1]http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com [2]http://www.LevelAccess.com "All these years, the people said, 'He's acting like a kid.' He did not know he could not fly, so he did." --Guy Clark, "The Cape" (Dublin Blues) References 1. http://www.dlee.org/ 2. http://www.levelaccess.com/ 3. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/3599 4. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Help%20with%20history%20dividers 5. mailto:mike@mikedezinno.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Help%20with%20history%20dividers 6. https://groups.io/mt/28872458/409874 7. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post 8. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874 10. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io 11. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper." --Rod Serling
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Mike DeZinno
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Thanks for the rapid response. Since I now know that I'm set up ok and following what you are recommending I will turn my attentions to the much more painful part of improving myself! LOL Thanks so much for the reassurance that I'm on the right track. Have a healthy and prosperous New Year, Mike, in SC
At 10:27 PM 12/30/2018, you wrote:
I am running the same JAWS, Skype, and script versions as you, and also under Windows 10.
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Amy Ruell <aruell@...>
Hello all,
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I am running Skype for business. Am I correct in assuming that the Scripps will not work for this? I have had very little success so far. I am running Skype for business on a laptop running Windows 7. Amy
On Dec 30, 2018, at 10:27 PM, Doug Lee <dgl@dlee.org> wrote:
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Doug Lee
I have different scripts for Skype For Business (SFB). Those are at https://www.dlee.org/sfb/
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:37:32PM -0500, Amy Ruell wrote:
Hello all, I am running Skype for business. Am I correct in assuming that the Scripps will not work for this? I have had very little success so far. I am running Skype for business on a laptop running Windows 7. Amy On Dec 30, 2018, at 10:27 PM, Doug Lee <dgl@dlee.org> wrote: -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it."--Theodore Roosevelt
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