main@skypeenglish.groups.io | Doug's new scripts repeating

Gary Jackson

#4511

All,

I'm using skype desktop/ electron version 8.6.1 with revision 173 scripts. this is with jaws 2020 and 2019. Now I'm getting a whole lot of  repeating. Example. when I alt tab to the skype window I get, skype1, skype1, skype1, skype1. Any ideas?

Gary

Doug Lee

#4512

I get a couple of repeats when Skype takes focus, one of which includes the word "page"; but I have not yet tackled that one. When I noticed it this morning, actually before I made any script changes I think, I figured something
changed in Skype 8.61 that I hadn't noticed before.

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:56:57PM -0500, Gary Jackson wrote:
All,


I'm using skype desktop/ electron version 8.6.1 with revision 173 scripts.
this is with jaws 2020 and 2019. Now I'm getting a whole lot of  repeating.
Example. when I alt tab to the skype window I get, skype1, skype1, skype1,
skype1. Any ideas?


Gary

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Gary Jackson

#4513

Doug,

I just uninstalled 173 and re-installed 162. Sure something going on there.

Gary

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On 6/30/2020 12:53 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
I get a couple of repeats when Skype takes focus, one of which includes the word "page"; but I have not yet tackled that one. When I noticed it this morning, actually before I made any script changes I think, I figured something
changed in Skype 8.61 that I hadn't noticed before.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:56:57PM -0500, Gary Jackson wrote:
All,


I'm using skype desktop/ electron version 8.6.1 with revision 173 scripts.
this is with jaws 2020 and 2019. Now I'm getting a whole lot of  repeating.
Example. when I alt tab to the skype window I get, skype1, skype1, skype1,
skype1. Any ideas?


Gary

Michele Barbi

#4514

Effectively, I also put scripts for Skype revision 173 and figured out that it repeats Skype four or five times when I go there especially with alt+tab.

Gary, I think number 1 means that you have an unread chat message.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10

Doug Lee

#4515

By now I have a diagnosis but not a solution. Short version: The problem resulted from my renaming skypeelectron.jsb to skype.jsb for some reason. If I rename it back and change ConfigNames.ini accordingly, the problem
goes away.

Longer explanation: JAWS normally reads the names of the various controls that contain the focused control when you Alt+Tab into an application. Skype has no less than three container controls named Skype. The repetitions
are just JAWS dutifully reading them all one at a time.

The JAWS scripts for Skype that come with JAWS include code to avoid much of this repetition. My scripts also include code to avoid it, but it's not the same code. In current Skype versions, the JAWS code works better than mine.

I believe that, when the files were named skypeelectron instead of just Skype, the JAWS scripts for Skype that came with JAWS briefly loaded before mine did. The result was that the JAWS code fixed the repetition problem
during the very brief moment it was running. Of course I didn't know this was happening, so I assumed my method of fixing the problem was still working.
I could be wrong about the stock scripts briefly running, but it explains why things work if I rename my scripts again.

I will need to update how I handle the repetition when it is caused by JAWS reading legitimate control names on Skype focus.

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On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
   Effectively, I also put scripts for Skype revision 173 and figured out
   that it repeats Skype four or five times when I go there especially
   with alt+tab.

   Gary, I think number 1 means that you have an unread chat message.

   Bye!

   Barbuz
--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10

   

References

   1. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4514
   2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Doug's new scripts repeating
   3. mailto:barbi.michele@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Doug's new scripts repeating
   4. https://groups.io/mt/75208273/409874
   5. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post
   6. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
   7. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874
   8. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io
   9. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged

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Gary Jackson

#4516

Hello Barbuz,

I'm sure you're right about the number 1. For some time mine says 1 new notification when I first load skype. Just haven't been too concerned with it, lol.

Gary

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On 6/30/2020 2:16 AM, Michele Barbi wrote:

Effectively, I also put scripts for Skype revision 173 and figured out that it repeats Skype four or five times when I go there especially with alt+tab.

Gary, I think number 1 means that you have an unread chat message.

Bye!

Barbuz
-- 
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10

Gary Jackson

#4517

Doug,

I knew as soon as  you could duplicate it you would have a diagnosis. You never have let grass grow under  your feet. smile

Gary

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On 6/30/2020 2:49 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
By now I have a diagnosis but not a solution. Short version: The problem resulted from my renaming skypeelectron.jsb to skype.jsb for some reason. If I rename it back and change ConfigNames.ini accordingly, the problem
goes away.

Longer explanation: JAWS normally reads the names of the various controls that contain the focused control when you Alt+Tab into an application. Skype has no less than three container controls named Skype. The repetitions
are just JAWS dutifully reading them all one at a time.

The JAWS scripts for Skype that come with JAWS include code to avoid much of this repetition. My scripts also include code to avoid it, but it's not the same code. In current Skype versions, the JAWS code works better than mine.

I believe that, when the files were named skypeelectron instead of just Skype, the JAWS scripts for Skype that came with JAWS briefly loaded before mine did. The result was that the JAWS code fixed the repetition problem
during the very brief moment it was running. Of course I didn't know this was happening, so I assumed my method of fixing the problem was still working.
I could be wrong about the stock scripts briefly running, but it explains why things work if I rename my scripts again.

I will need to update how I handle the repetition when it is caused by JAWS reading legitimate control names on Skype focus.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 09:16:57AM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
    Effectively, I also put scripts for Skype revision 173 and figured out
    that it repeats Skype four or five times when I go there especially
    with alt+tab.

    Gary, I think number 1 means that you have an unread chat message.

    Bye!

    Barbuz
--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10

    
References

    1. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4514
    2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Doug's new scripts repeating
    3. mailto:barbi.michele@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Doug's new scripts repeating
    4. https://groups.io/mt/75208273/409874
    5. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post
    6. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
    7. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874
    8. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io
    9. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged