Aha! This I can work with - it means the mrw script is compiled with a JAWS version that produced a jsb that you can't use. That probably means that the mrw scripts don't work below JAWS 16 after all, but I didn't know it
because I can't run JAWS 15 here anymore.

I have uploaded an update. Please download and try again from http://www.dlee.org/mrw/

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 01:42:17PM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Script load error.

The mrw/freedom scientific jsb is not the proper version; something like that.

I couldn't copy and paste it.

On 16/11/2018 1:34 p.m., Doug Lee wrote:

Can you let us know the actual message you get from mrw on your system?

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 01:21:18PM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
The MRW scripts don't work here with jaws 15 and windows 7.

It seems there's something not quite right with JAWS.

It says something to that effect on installation.

On 15/11/2018 11:22 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may
be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional
version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this version
of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

Can you let us know the actual message you get from mrw on your system?

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 01:21:18PM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
The MRW scripts don't work here with jaws 15 and windows 7.

It seems there's something not quite right with JAWS.

It says something to that effect on installation.

On 15/11/2018 11:22 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may
be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional
version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this version
of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

Can you let us know the actual message you get from mrw on your system?

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 01:21:18PM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
The MRW scripts don't work here with jaws 15 and windows 7.

It seems there's something not quite right with JAWS.

It says something to that effect on installation.

On 15/11/2018 11:22 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may
be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional
version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this version
of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may
be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional
version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this version
of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

Maybe you need to do a reinstall of jaws.


-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Pryde
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 1:21 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Scripts for skype 7.0.4.0.151

The MRW scripts don't work here with jaws 15 and windows 7.

It seems there's something not quite right with JAWS.

It says something to that effect on installation.

On 15/11/2018 11:22 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my
own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects
are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this
version of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if
installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW
scripts, which stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more
infos on these scripts usage and how to install those:
http://www.dlee.org/mrw/ Bye!
Barbuz

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my
own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects
are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this
version of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if
installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW
scripts, which stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more
infos on these scripts usage and how to install those:
http://www.dlee.org/mrw/ Bye!
Barbuz

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may
be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional
version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this version
of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may
be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional
version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this version
of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

15.0 is the minimum version of JAWS that should be supported; so yes, they should work there. I probably never tested the mrw scripts under JAWS 15 though.

Just as a gentle alert: I can no longer practically test scripts on my own machine against JAWS versions older than 18. Some of my projects are moving to cut off at JAWS 14 currently. The next cutoff line may be JAWS 15 but may
be a later version. I have not determined yet either when the next cutoff will occur or at which JAWS verssion. I do avoid cutting off old JAWS versions until I have a reason to do it, but then I tend to cut at a transitional
version for scripting features that I can use to improve efficiency, support newer application types, etc.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:09:05AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

I tried to install from that link, but it seems to indicate that this version
of JAWS isn't compatible.

On 15/11/2018 10:58 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

Chris wrote:

"Skype seems to be updating itself now without any interaction from the user

I would double check which version you are running now"

************
Ok Chris, thanks for letting us know.
Jerry, if this is the case and you've been autoupdated to Skype 8, watch out because the scripts for Skype electron require at least JAWS 17 as clearly explained on the system requirements section, because Skype 8 configures itself as a Google Chrome window.
Bye!
Barbuz

Chris wrote:

"Skype seems to be updating itself now without any interaction from the user

I would double check which version you are running now"

************
Ok Chris, thanks for letting us know.
Jerry, if this is the case and you've been autoupdated to Skype 8, watch out because the scripts for Skype electron require at least JAWS 17 as clearly explained on the system requirements section, because Skype 8 configures itself as a Google Chrome window.
Bye!
Barbuz

Chris wrote:

"Skype seems to be updating itself now without any interaction from the user

I would double check which version you are running now"

************
Ok Chris, thanks for letting us know.
Jerry, if this is the case and you've been autoupdated to Skype 8, watch out because the scripts for Skype electron require at least JAWS 17 as clearly explained on the system requirements section, because Skype 8 configures itself as a Google Chrome window.
Bye!
Barbuz

Doug:

re Mathplayer: no.

I last installed skype 7.0 a little more than a month ago, and

reinstalled the scripts; all this after a computer repare.

Yesterday, september 13, the scripts worked perfectly, and skype loaded

with no problem.

So, this only happened this morning at about 6:30 Eastern time.

On 15/11/2018 9:30 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

> If the message you are getting is specifically, "These scripts do not support this Skype version," let me know what operations result in this message. There are ten points in the code that can cause that message. Most have to

> do with handling chat messages and windows, but there may be other operations that trigger this message.

> 

> It would also help me to know when you last downloaded a Skype 7 update.

> 

> Finally, because one known cause of this issue is related to Windows MSAA support, two more questions: Have you rebooted since you ran into this problem, and have you recently installed or removed something called Mathplayer?

> 

> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 08:57:16AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:

> PS:

> 

> The scripts worked perfectly yesterday.

> 

> Today, they don't work for some reason.

> 

> Jerry.

> 

> On 15/11/2018 8:05 a.m., Michele Barbi wrote:

>> Hello Jerry,

>> I though Skype 7 was officially blocked as of november 1, 2018, but that's

>> another topic...

>> Anyway, yes make sure which scripts revision you have, considering latest

>> for Skype classic is 622b, revision 993. Try pressing insert+q from within

>> Skype, and if you figure out you have a less recent scripts revision, try

>> updating it. This is the direct download link for the installer:

>> http://www.dlee.org/skype/classic/jfw-skr622b.exe

>> Doug, if you can read this thread, let me know if there is something to

>> add.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

I thought of suggesting that, and it will be useful to see if installing those and activating the workaround will help; but I don't yet know how likely that is to succeed. I'm working on professional projects at the moment
though, so I won't be able to do anything significant with this for a while. The mrw idea might be good to try in the mean time.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 04:53:47PM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Now that it comes to my mind, you could try installing the MRW scripts, which
stands for MSAA Registration Workaround. Here are more infos on these scripts
usage and how to install those: http://www.dlee.org/mrw/
Bye!
Barbuz

I have so far not heard of any problem like this elsewhere; we'll see if anyone else chimes into this discussion. I have not had Skype 7 on Windows for many months by now, so any scripting work I do for it now would likely need
to be through a JAWS Tandem connection.

Regarding the MSAA/Mathplayer issue: If you were suffering from that one, you would probably see a few other side effects, like TeamTalk or TeamSpeak scripts not working right, possibly a few website form fields not being named
correctly when they usually are, etc. That issue is global when it occurs, but its effects are hard for me to predict completely.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 09:52:33AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Doug:

re Mathplayer: no.

I last installed skype 7.0 a little more than a month ago, and reinstalled the
scripts; all this after a computer repare.

Yesterday, september 13, the scripts worked perfectly, and skype loaded with
no problem.

So, this only happened this morning at about 6:30 Eastern time.

On 15/11/2018 9:30 a.m., Doug Lee wrote:

If the message you are getting is specifically, "These scripts do not support this Skype version," let me know what operations result in this message. There are ten points in the code that can cause that message. Most have to
do with handling chat messages and windows, but there may be other operations that trigger this message.

It would also help me to know when you last downloaded a Skype 7 update.

Finally, because one known cause of this issue is related to Windows MSAA support, two more questions: Have you rebooted since you ran into this problem, and have you recently installed or removed something called Mathplayer?

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 08:57:16AM -0500, Jerry Pryde wrote:
PS:

The scripts worked perfectly yesterday.

Today, they don't work for some reason.

Jerry.

On 15/11/2018 8:05 a.m., Michele Barbi wrote:

Hello Jerry,
I though Skype 7 was officially blocked as of november 1, 2018, but that's
another topic...
Anyway, yes make sure which scripts revision you have, considering latest
for Skype classic is 622b, revision 993. Try pressing insert+q from within
Skype, and if you figure out you have a less recent scripts revision, try
updating it. This is the direct download link for the installer:
http://www.dlee.org/skype/classic/jfw-skr622b.exe
Doug, if you can read this thread, let me know if there is something to
add.