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Re: Skype Calling Question

Dane Trethowan
 

Ou will need to type in the country code of +44 or select it from the drop-down list in the Dial Pad which may make things easier.
Also you can search for the country you are wanting to call and have Skype fill in the appropriate code for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Pryde
Sent: Saturday, 12 October 2019 1:03 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Calling Question

Hi all.


I just got a years subscription to Office 365, including a 60-minute per month calling on Skype.

I'll be calling the UK from Canada.

Do I need to type in 44, the country code, or just the actual number?

Thanks billions.


Jerry.

Re: Skype Calling Question

Jerry Pryde
 

Thanks billions.

Just curious as I got the subscription via MS Office 365 as a temporary solution to a problem I'm having.

Chances are, I won't use the 60 minutes credit anyway.

Just curious.

On 2019-10-11 11:12 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I believe you do need to type the country code, area code, prefix, then last part of the number. Don't quot me on that as I canceled that subscription 6 years ago when I didn't need it anymore.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 11 Oct 2019, at 7:03, Jerry Pryde wrote:

Hi all.

I just got a years subscription to Office 365, including a 60-minute per month calling on Skype.

I'll be calling the UK from Canada.

Do I need to type in 44, the country code, or just the actual number?

Thanks billions.

Jerry.

Re: Skype Calling Question

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe you do need to type the country code, area code, prefix, then last part of the number. Don't quot me on that as I canceled that subscription 6 years ago when I didn't need it anymore.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 11 Oct 2019, at 7:03, Jerry Pryde wrote:

Hi all.

I just got a years subscription to Office 365, including a 60-minute per month calling on Skype.

I'll be calling the UK from Canada.

Do I need to type in 44, the country code, or just the actual number?

Thanks billions.

Jerry.

Re: Skype Calling Question

Michele Barbi
 

Hi Jerry,
I sincerely do not use Skype credit since much time, it’s been even disabled in my account. I think though that you’ need to specify the country somehow, so if there is not another way such as a combo box for selecting it, you’ll probably have to insert the country code manually.
Bye!
Barbuz

Skype Calling Question

Jerry Pryde
 

Hi all.


I just got a years subscription to Office 365, including a 60-minute per month calling on Skype.

I'll be calling the UK from Canada.

Do I need to type in 44, the country code, or just the actual number?

Thanks billions.


Jerry.

Group Guidelines #guidelines

main@skypeenglish.groups.io Group Moderators <main@...>
 

Hello all. It's that time again, where a reminder is sent out  once a month regarding the rules so here they are.
 
Hello to all.  Hear is this month's reminder of the Skype English rules. taken right from the welcome message
 
Hello and welcome to the Skype English list. Here our goal is to have fun discussing various things related to skype and the screen 
readers such as jaws and others.  Remember the following:
 
1. flaming of any kind, virus warnings, spam, or anything off topic will not be tolerated.
 
2. Posting in HTML is aloud, but no links will work. The message will hopefully be converted to plain text. Let me know if you see 
any attachments. i doubt you will.
 
3. Absolutely no attachments are aloud on this list. Security comes first and this will minimize the chance of viruses spreading.
 
4. Keep all intro threads to at least 3  or 4 messages before the thread is taken off list. That way we don't drift off topic. I 
know this is going to be hard for most of us including this mod here but if we keep the  messages on topic the archives will look 
a lot cleaner and people will be able to find info on what they need.
 
5. speaking of clean archives absolutely no discussion of anything other than Skype and its use with screen readers will be tolerated on this list.  If the admin notices any other topics such as google talk on this list they will close the thread immediately. I hate to do this but this is to keep the archives easier to find for old members as well as new ones.
6. When you first join this list it's normally customary to send out an intro message.  Since this list is growing by leaps and bounds this will cease and desist.  The new comer will now  if they want to send out a question regarding the scripts, skype, gw connect, anything that this list covers. any "hello" messages and "I'm new. here is my info" messages will no longer be tolerated.  We want to keep the searchable archives at the mail archive as clean as possible.
 
7. Before you post your question(s) to the list,  please search the group archives or do a google search. This prevents the cycle of repeated messages. It also teaches you the user to search before asking for help. Oly when you have exhausted yoru resources should you come to this list. We get a lot of messages, so the archives are full of stuff dating back to at least 2005.
 
. Have  fun and happy skyping.
 
 
Failure to abide by any of these rules, especially the last one, will get you 3 strikes then the member is band from said list.
Take care all.

Re: Split view looks official now

Hamid
 

Hello Doug,


Thank you for letting us  know about the  split view feature. I had it functioning properly for over a month now. It is interesting to know that it finally became stable.


As for the  129 vs 130 version number, you have mentioned that in this list as well.

Cheers

On 9/16/2019 6:19 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
When I launched Skype 8.51.0.92 this morning, I heard that I had one notification. I dutifully wandered off to the Notifications tab and found a notification that said "Introducing Split View Mode," or similar. I take this to
mean that split-view mode is officially present and supported now.

I briefly tested my latest Skype 8 scripts (revision 129) against this, and found things working normally. The messages like "Message sent" may still not speak though, because there is no list of accessibility messages in
individual chat windows like there is in the main Skype window.

While I'm at it... In case I only said this on Twitter and not on this list: If you marvel that I just said my latest scripts are revision 129 while my website clearly boasts revision 130, never fear; they are the same thing. I
neglected to update the revision number in my final release, but the script code is correct.

Split view looks official now

Doug Lee
 

When I launched Skype 8.51.0.92 this morning, I heard that I had one notification. I dutifully wandered off to the Notifications tab and found a notification that said "Introducing Split View Mode," or similar. I take this to
mean that split-view mode is officially present and supported now.

I briefly tested my latest Skype 8 scripts (revision 129) against this, and found things working normally. The messages like "Message sent" may still not speak though, because there is no list of accessibility messages in
individual chat windows like there is in the main Skype window.

While I'm at it... In case I only said this on Twitter and not on this list: If you marvel that I just said my latest scripts are revision 129 while my website clearly boasts revision 130, never fear; they are the same thing. I
neglected to update the revision number in my final release, but the script code is correct.

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
In laughter, love is found; but in tears, it is forged. (12/09/01)

Re: skype automatically appearing after you boot up

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe you can hit windows t, then select skype, hit the contact menu and click pin to task bar.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Sep 2019, at 17:57, Steve Gladstone wrote:

Is it possible to have the latest version of Skype 8 appear on my task bar automatically upon booting up? If so, how do I set it to do that?

Thx

Steve

 

skype automatically appearing after you boot up

Steve Gladstone
 

Is it possible to have the latest version of Skype 8 appear on my task bar automatically upon booting up? If so, how do I set it to do that?

Thx

Steve

 

Re: subscription to Skype

Brian K. Lingard
 

Far as I know, once you subscribe to something for Skype and pay for it, all sales are final!

Brian K. Lingard

From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf of Mike DeZinno
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 10:51 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] subscription to Skype

 

I may not know all there is to know about how Skype charges and refunds, but in the past when I was paying them for a monthly calling plan if I'm not mistaken the receipt, they sent me each month said there were no refunds.
I hope I'm wrong in your case.

Good luck dealing with them,
Mike in SC
At 07:49 PM 8/31/2019, you wrote:
Hello all,?

Once you cancel your Skype subscription, how long does it take for Skype to refund you?

Re: subscription to Skype

Mike DeZinno
 

I may not know all there is to know about how Skype charges and refunds, but in the past when I was paying them for a monthly calling plan if I'm not mistaken the receipt they sent me each month said there were no refunds.
I hope I'm wrong in your case.

Good luck dealing with them,
Mike in SC


At 07:49 PM 8/31/2019, you wrote:


Hello all,


Once you cancelling your Skype suscrption, how long does it for Skype refund you once your Skype suscription is cancelled?

Thanks,

Josephine




Re: suscription to Skype

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't thikn ther is a refund, ther never was when I did it. What does their FAQ say in regard to that?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 31 Aug 2019, at 16:49, Josephine Hirsch wrote:

Hello all,

Once you cancelling your Skype suscrption, how long does it for Skype refund you once your Skype suscription is cancelled?

Thanks,

Josephine

suscription to Skype

Josephine Hirsch
 

Hello all,


Once you cancelling your Skype suscrption, how long does it for Skype refund you once your Skype suscription is cancelled?

Thanks,

Josephine

Answers to a couple more Skype 8 script questions

Doug Lee
 

Answering a couple questions asked in various places:

If you find an slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it is safe and perhaps wise to delete it.

The revision 129 shown in the installer and by Insert+q for the revision 130 scripts is harmless and an accident, but the code is correct. I'm not fixing the revision number because that would prompt another round of
translation exchanges for non-English scripts.

The revision 130 scripts should work in Skype 8.51.0.86 and also 8.51.0.92, which was released this week.

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he
doesn't mind who gets the credit." Ronald Reagan?

Re: Q&A on Skype 8.51 and my JAWS scripts

Hamid
 

Doug, thanks. it is indeed what you said. I used internet explorer instead of google Chrome and finally I got the right one.

Thank you once again!

On 8/31/2019 2:41 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Yes; browser download cache perhaps.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:34:35AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Thanks Doug for the prompt response. I am sure it says 121. I retried 3 times
and I keep getting the same one. Could it be something  on my side?

On 8/31/2019 2:31 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
I don't know why you would get vevision 121; the file posted on my site is updated. However, due to my haste at releasing, the recorded revision number in the installer and for Insert+Q for this revison says revision 129
instead of 130. So if you're hearing 129, you still have the right stuff.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:20:47AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I
keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you
mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.

Re: Q&A on Skype 8.51 and my JAWS scripts

Doug Lee
 

Yes; browser download cache perhaps.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:34:35AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Thanks Doug for the prompt response. I am sure it says 121. I retried 3 times
and I keep getting the same one. Could it be something  on my side?

On 8/31/2019 2:31 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
I don't know why you would get vevision 121; the file posted on my site is updated. However, due to my haste at releasing, the recorded revision number in the installer and for Insert+Q for this revison says revision 129
instead of 130. So if you're hearing 129, you still have the right stuff.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:20:47AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I
keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you
mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"I am a leader by default, only because nature does not allow a vacuum."
Bishop Desmond Tutu

Re: Q&A on Skype 8.51 and my JAWS scripts

Hamid
 

Thanks Doug for the prompt response. I am sure it says 121. I retried 3 times and I keep getting the same one. Could it be something  on my side?

On 8/31/2019 2:31 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
I don't know why you would get vevision 121; the file posted on my site is updated. However, due to my haste at releasing, the recorded revision number in the installer and for Insert+Q for this revison says revision 129
instead of 130. So if you're hearing 129, you still have the right stuff.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:20:47AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I
keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you
mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.

Re: Q&A on Skype 8.51 and my JAWS scripts

Doug Lee
 

I don't know why you would get vevision 121; the file posted on my site is updated. However, due to my haste at releasing, the recorded revision number in the installer and for Insert+Q for this revison says revision 129
instead of 130. So if you're hearing 129, you still have the right stuff.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:20:47AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I
keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you
mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.



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Re: Q&A on Skype 8.51 and my JAWS scripts

Hamid
 

Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.