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Re: JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Bill White
 

You may need to unblock potentially unsafe downloads in Edge.

Use the following link to download the JAWS Scripts For Skype For Windows,

http://www.dlee.org/skype/jfw_skype.exe

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:19 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is
unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

How do you download this with Microsoft Edge under Windows 7?
It says you are an unsigned publisher and I don't see a way to make the DL
happen anyway.
Thanks for all you do,
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:29 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is
unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

I have released revision 173 of the JAWS scripts for Skype, as promised in
an earlier message I sent here today. That message is quoted below for
reference.

The new URL for JAWS Skype scripts is https://www.dlee.org/skype/

The "electron" part is removed, though for some time the old URL and all
references thereunder will still work, via an HTTP redirect.

Please read the Revision History entry carefully for this release. A direct
link is https://www.dlee.org/skype/skype.htm#hist

In particular, there are specific installation instructions there for this
update, which is because this update effectively replaces two sets of
scripts at once: scripts for Skype for Windows Desktop 8, and scripts for
Skype UWP for Windows 10.

Final notes of potential interest:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical
Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings
from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to
where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

If you use the BXUpdate feature of BX to update scripts, run through the
installation instructions for this Skype script update for this one; do not
try to use BX to update the scripts. That doesn't work when the URL changes,
the script name changes, and the scripts replace two different sets of Skype
scripts at once. :-)

Happy Skyping to all! The NVDA part is still coming...

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not
entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion
of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10,
formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to
our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will
happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these
sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove
them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an
Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their
names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp"
on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish
behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to
release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given
earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts
work with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the
installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not
cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to
release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run
them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've
been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified
Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows
Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows
Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just
jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the
official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will
actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather
than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions
now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that
announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for
Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS
updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for
JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and
move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being
how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows
Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm
sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages
pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how they live."
-- Nancy Moser


Re: NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Bill White
 

Hi, John. You are way too logical for me. That's exactly where it is
located, in the Start menu. For some reason, I was thinking that the
uninstall option for the Skype Scripts was somewhere within the JAWS menus.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:47 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype
is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

I'm surprised it wouldn't have been under a start menu folder with some
kind of shortcut pointing to the uninstaller file.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype
is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Hi, Doug. I finally found the uninstall option for the new Skype scripts. It
is in All Apps. It does not appear in either Programs and Features, or in
Apps and Features in Windows 10 Settings.

Thank you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:14 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype
is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Hi, Doug. In JAWS, What is the best way of uninstalling the old version of
the scripts for Skype if one does not have a current copy of the new
scripts? I thought there used to be an uninstall option somewhere within
JAWS, or within Programs and Features in Windows 10. I don't seem to find
that option now. Is there a way to uninstall the scripts without using a
version of the scripts themselves?

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is
unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

I have released version 2018.04.2 of the Skype add-on for NVDA, at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/NVDA/skype.nvda-addon

Apologies for the funny version number btw; I just noticed it says 2018 as I
was writing this announcement, and I already announced the update in other
places.

Features:

URL change! The old skype/electron URL will still work for a while, but the
above URL is the new location for this add-on.

Works with both Skype for Windows Desktop (Skype 8) and Skype UWP for
Windows 10, which is now the same interface.

Fixes review cursor navigation in messages in a chat history list. I did
this long ago, but it broke at some point.

A note that I also included when I announced the JAWS script update:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical
Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings
from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to
where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

Enjoy.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not
entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion
of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10,
formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to
our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will
happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these
sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove
them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an
Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their
names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp"
on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish
behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to
release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given
earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts
work with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the
installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not
cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to
release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run
them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've
been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified
Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows
Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows
Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just
jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the
official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will
actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather
than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions
now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that
announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for
Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS
updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for
JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and
move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being
how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows
Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm
sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages
pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how they live."
-- Nancy Moser


Re: NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

John Holcomb II
 

I'm surprised it wouldn't have been under a start menu folder with some
kind of shortcut pointing to the uninstaller file.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 5:45 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype
is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Hi, Doug. I finally found the uninstall option for the new Skype scripts. It
is in All Apps. It does not appear in either Programs and Features, or in
Apps and Features in Windows 10 Settings.

Thank you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:14 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype
is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Hi, Doug. In JAWS, What is the best way of uninstalling the old version of
the scripts for Skype if one does not have a current copy of the new
scripts? I thought there used to be an uninstall option somewhere within
JAWS, or within Programs and Features in Windows 10. I don't seem to find
that option now. Is there a way to uninstall the scripts without using a
version of the scripts themselves?

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is
unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

I have released version 2018.04.2 of the Skype add-on for NVDA, at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/NVDA/skype.nvda-addon

Apologies for the funny version number btw; I just noticed it says 2018 as I
was writing this announcement, and I already announced the update in other
places.

Features:

URL change! The old skype/electron URL will still work for a while, but the
above URL is the new location for this add-on.

Works with both Skype for Windows Desktop (Skype 8) and Skype UWP for
Windows 10, which is now the same interface.

Fixes review cursor navigation in messages in a chat history list. I did
this long ago, but it broke at some point.

A note that I also included when I announced the JAWS script update:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical
Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings
from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to
where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

Enjoy.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not
entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion
of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10,
formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to
our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will
happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these
sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove
them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an
Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their
names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp"
on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish
behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to
release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given
earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts
work with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the
installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not
cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to
release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run
them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've
been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified
Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows
Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows
Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just
jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the
official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will
actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather
than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions
now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that
announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for
Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS
updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for
JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and
move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being
how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows
Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm
sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages
pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how they live."
-- Nancy Moser


Re: NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Bill White
 

Hi, Doug. I finally found the uninstall option for the new Skype scripts. It
is in All Apps. It does not appear in either Programs and Features, or in
Apps and Features in Windows 10 Settings.

Thank you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:14 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype
is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Hi, Doug. In JAWS, What is the best way of uninstalling the old version of
the scripts for Skype if one does not have a current copy of the new
scripts? I thought there used to be an uninstall option somewhere within
JAWS, or within Programs and Features in Windows 10. I don't seem to find
that option now. Is there a way to uninstall the scripts without using a
version of the scripts themselves?

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is
unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

I have released version 2018.04.2 of the Skype add-on for NVDA, at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/NVDA/skype.nvda-addon

Apologies for the funny version number btw; I just noticed it says 2018 as I
was writing this announcement, and I already announced the update in other
places.

Features:

URL change! The old skype/electron URL will still work for a while, but the
above URL is the new location for this add-on.

Works with both Skype for Windows Desktop (Skype 8) and Skype UWP for
Windows 10, which is now the same interface.

Fixes review cursor navigation in messages in a chat history list. I did
this long ago, but it broke at some point.

A note that I also included when I announced the JAWS script update:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical
Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings
from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to
where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

Enjoy.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not
entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion
of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10,
formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to
our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will
happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these
sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove
them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an
Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their
names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp"
on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish
behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to
release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given
earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts
work
with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the installer
I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not cause
problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run
them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've
been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified
Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows
Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows
Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just
jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the
official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will
actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather
than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions
now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that
announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for
Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS
updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for
JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and
move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being
how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows
Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm
sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages
pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how
they live." -- Nancy Moser


Re: JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

John Holcomb II
 

How do you download this with Microsoft Edge under Windows 7?
It says you are an unsigned publisher and I don't see a way to make the DL
happen anyway.
Thanks for all you do,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:29 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is
unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

I have released revision 173 of the JAWS scripts for Skype, as promised in
an earlier message I sent here today. That message is quoted below for
reference.

The new URL for JAWS Skype scripts is https://www.dlee.org/skype/

The "electron" part is removed, though for some time the old URL and all
references thereunder will still work, via an HTTP redirect.

Please read the Revision History entry carefully for this release. A direct
link is https://www.dlee.org/skype/skype.htm#hist

In particular, there are specific installation instructions there for this
update, which is because this update effectively replaces two sets of
scripts at once: scripts for Skype for Windows Desktop 8, and scripts for
Skype UWP for Windows 10.

Final notes of potential interest:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical
Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings
from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to
where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

If you use the BXUpdate feature of BX to update scripts, run through the
installation instructions for this Skype script update for this one; do not
try to use BX to update the scripts. That doesn't work when the URL changes,
the script name changes, and the scripts replace two different sets of Skype
scripts at once. :-)

Happy Skyping to all! The NVDA part is still coming...

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not
entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion
of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10,
formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to
our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will
happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these
sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove
them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an
Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their
names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp"
on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish
behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to
release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given
earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts
work with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the
installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not
cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to
release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run
them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've
been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified
Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows
Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows
Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just
jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the
official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will
actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather
than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions
now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that
announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for
Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS
updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for
JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and
move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being
how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows
Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm
sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages
pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how they live."
-- Nancy Moser


Re: NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Bill White
 

Hi, Doug. In JAWS, What is the best way of uninstalling the old version of
the scripts for Skype if one does not have a current copy of the new
scripts? I thought there used to be an uninstall option somewhere within
JAWS, or within Programs and Features in Windows 10. I don't seem to find
that option now. Is there a way to uninstall the scripts without using a
version of the scripts themselves?

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is
unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows
Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

I have released version 2018.04.2 of the Skype add-on for NVDA, at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/NVDA/skype.nvda-addon

Apologies for the funny version number btw; I just noticed it says 2018 as I
was writing this announcement, and I already announced the update in other
places.

Features:

URL change! The old skype/electron URL will still work for a while, but the
above URL is the new location for this add-on.

Works with both Skype for Windows Desktop (Skype 8) and Skype UWP for
Windows 10, which is now the same interface.

Fixes review cursor navigation in messages in a chat history list. I did
this long ago, but it broke at some point.

A note that I also included when I announced the JAWS script update:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical
Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings
from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to
where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

Enjoy.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not
entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion
of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10,
formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to
our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will
happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these
sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove
them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an
Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their
names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp"
on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish
behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to
release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given
earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts
work
with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the installer
I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not cause
problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run
them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've
been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified
Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows
Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows
Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just
jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the
official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will
actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather
than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions
now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that
announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for
Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS
updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for
JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and
move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being
how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows
Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm
sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages
pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how
they live." -- Nancy Moser


Re: JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Octavian Rasnita
 

Hi Doug,

Is the upgrade necessary for Skype under Windows 7? Or, does it work under Windows 7?

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:29 PM
Subject: [skypeenglish] JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)


I have released revision 173 of the JAWS scripts for Skype, as promised in an earlier message I sent here today. That message is quoted below for reference.

The new URL for JAWS Skype scripts is https://www.dlee.org/skype/

The "electron" part is removed, though for some time the old URL and all references thereunder will still work, via an HTTP redirect.

Please read the Revision History entry carefully for this release. A direct link is https://www.dlee.org/skype/skype.htm#hist

In particular, there are specific installation instructions there for this update, which is because this update effectively replaces two sets of scripts at once: scripts for Skype for Windows Desktop 8, and scripts for
Skype UWP for Windows 10.

Final notes of potential interest:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

If you use the BXUpdate feature of BX to update scripts, run through the installation instructions for this Skype script update for this one; do not try to use BX to update the scripts. That doesn't work when the URL
changes, the script name changes, and the scripts replace two different sets of Skype scripts at once. :-)

Happy Skyping to all! The NVDA part is still coming...

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10, formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp" on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts work
with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how
they live." -- Nancy Moser


NVDA Skype add-on update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Doug Lee
 

I have released version 2018.04.2 of the Skype add-on for NVDA, at https://www.dlee.org/skype/NVDA/skype.nvda-addon

Apologies for the funny version number btw; I just noticed it says 2018 as I was writing this announcement, and I already announced the update in other places.

Features:

URL change! The old skype/electron URL will still work for a while, but the above URL is the new location for this add-on.

Works with both Skype for Windows Desktop (Skype 8) and Skype UWP for Windows 10, which is now the same interface.

Fixes review cursor navigation in messages in a chat history list. I did this long ago, but it broke at some point.

A note that I also included when I announced the JAWS script update:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

Enjoy.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10, formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp" on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts work
with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how
they live." -- Nancy Moser


JAWS script update released (was Re: Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.)

Doug Lee
 

I have released revision 173 of the JAWS scripts for Skype, as promised in an earlier message I sent here today. That message is quoted below for reference.

The new URL for JAWS Skype scripts is https://www.dlee.org/skype/

The "electron" part is removed, though for some time the old URL and all references thereunder will still work, via an HTTP redirect.

Please read the Revision History entry carefully for this release. A direct link is https://www.dlee.org/skype/skype.htm#hist

In particular, there are specific installation instructions there for this update, which is because this update effectively replaces two sets of scripts at once: scripts for Skype for Windows Desktop 8, and scripts for
Skype UWP for Windows 10.

Final notes of potential interest:

If you are migrating from Skype for Windows Desktop to the newly identical Skype for Windows 10, check your settings (Ctrl+Comma), because settings from one version may not be automatically applied to the other even though
the interfaces are the same. I recommend paying particular attention to where Skype says your audio will come from and go to.

If you use the BXUpdate feature of BX to update scripts, run through the installation instructions for this Skype script update for this one; do not try to use BX to update the scripts. That doesn't work when the URL
changes, the script name changes, and the scripts replace two different sets of Skype scripts at once. :-)

Happy Skyping to all! The NVDA part is still coming...

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 10:50:43AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10, formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp" on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts work
with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Characters live to be noticed. People with character notice how
they live." -- Nancy Moser


Skype is unified! Skype UWP for Windows 10 is now the same as Skype for Windows Desktop! Here's what will happen and what to do.

Doug Lee
 

NVDA users, there's something in here for you, too; this is mostly but not entirely for JAWS folk.

Someone with a nice actor voice should now mutter quietly, after the fashion of many movies, "I have waited a long time for this moment."

As was announced earlier on this list already, Skype for Windows 10, formerly a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) application, is now identical to our well-known Skype for Windows Desktop app. Finally, after years of
confusion, we have exactly one Skype for Windows again!

This message contains three sections: what you should do now, what will happen automatically, and what will happen to scripts. The final of these sections will also include my plans for NVDA support.

What you should do now:

If you have installed JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10, remove them. If you used the script installer to install them, there will be an Uninstall entry in your Start menu for them. If you installed them manually,
remove files from your JAWS user folder that contain "skypeuwp" in their names, and then remove any ConfigNames.ini entries that mention "skypeuwp" on the right side of the = sign. I advise this because trying to use the old
Skype UWP scripts with the new Electron replacement will result in sluggish behavior.

If you want access to Skype for Windows 10 immediately, though I intend to release a script update for this later today, follow the advice given earlier on this list to make the current Skype for Windows Desktop scripts work
with Skype for Windows 10. Otherwise, wait a few hours and run the installer I plan to release soon. Manually updating ConfigNames.ini will not cause problems for you later when you run the new installer I am about to release.

What will happen automatically:

Along with your Microsoft store updates whenever they run (or when you run them), Skype for Windows 10 will quietly morph into the Electron app we've been using for years. Skype for Windows Desktop, if you have it installed,
will continue to work normally. The two should look and perform alike.

What will happen to scripts (and NVDA add-ons):

Later today, I plan to release a new set of scripts to cover the unified Skype. This will actually be the same code as was used for Skype for Windows Desktop. There are a few changes though:

1. The installer will change from "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron)" to just "JAWS Scripts For Skype for Windows."

2. The installer's file name will change from jfw_skypeelectron.exe to just jfw_skype.exe.

3. The URL https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ will still work, but the official URL will now be https://www.dlee.org/skype/ and the scripts will actually reside there.

4. The names of files for the scripts will now include just "skype" rather than "skypeelectron." This is consistent with the file naming conventions now used by JAWS itself for Skype support.

5. I will send another announcement here when the release occurs, and that announcement will include further information on how to upgrade.

Regarding NVDA add-ons:

I have been for a long time hosting a small NVDA add-on for Skype for Windows Desktop at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

I intend to do the following for this add-on after releasing the JAWS updates:

1. Adjust any names to correspond to the Skype unification as I am doing for JAWS.

2. Create a folder for Skype NVDA support as I do for other projects, and move the add-on there.

3. Make the add-on support Skype for Windows 10 if possible, the issue being how to make the add-on load for it as it already does for Skype for Windows Desktop.

Again, I will make another announcement when I have more for NVDA. I'm sending this much information now though in case people out there have pages pointing directly to the add-on at its current location, which will go away
at some point.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon


Re: Skype Electron Replaces Universal App on the Store: the users need to make this change to continue using it

Hamza Ahmad
 

Hi Barbi,
Thanks for responding and sharing this useful link.
As for the developers of JAWS, likely they'll update the shared
.ini file in the next update. Those who have turn automatic update for
store applications to on will receive this update to skype. So, I
chose to post the workaround here.
When I received this update, it hanged my computer with old scripts.
When I made this change, it worked well. I've also messaged Dug
personally. I am sure he is aware of this change, and we'll soon
receive an announcement regarding this.
Best

On 6/29/20, Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello my fiend, thanks for telling us. I personally always used Skype
for Desktop and I am using Doug's scripts revision 162 for Skype
electron. I don't know which plans does he have for further scripts
distribution, possibly though VFO will make some changes in a future
JAWS update.

For further information on what Microsoft is actually doing, you can
read here:
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34933/introducing-an-updated-enhanced-skype-for-windows-10

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype Electron Replaces Universal App on the Store: the users need to make this change to continue using it

Michele Barbi
 

Hello my fiend, thanks for telling us. I personally always used Skype for Desktop and I am using Doug's scripts revision 162 for Skype electron. I don't know which plans does he have for further scripts distribution, possibly though VFO will make some changes in a future JAWS update.

For further information on what Microsoft is actually doing, you can read here: https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA34933/introducing-an-updated-enhanced-skype-for-windows-10

Bye!

Barbuz

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Skype Electron Replaces Universal App on the Store: the users need to make this change to continue using it

Hamza Ahmad
 

Hello respected members on skype mailing list,

I’ve come up with good news that will affect skype universal app users and surprise electron users on the other. Since skype 8.61, Microsoft officially replaces their universal app with the Chromium based version of skype. From now on, there will be single version of skype available to both store and regular users of skype.

Those who use skype electron can continue using it. However, those who rely on universal app may need to update their config names.ini file available in the explore my settings folder i.e. the user settings directory. I hope the author will soon commit this change, and all users of skype electron and skype UWP will receive same scripts for their applications.

Till then, I am going to describe the way how people can make this change and continue their experience.

First you need to go to JAWS user settings directory.

To do so, open jaws window jaws key + j.

Go to utilities and click “explore utilities folder”; you can press letter x to directly open utilities folder.

The utilities folder will open in file explorer.

Press letter e till you find an item with the name of “explore my settings”.

Press enter on it.

When it opens, type letter c till you find a file with the name of “ConfigNames.INI”.

Press enter on it; it will open in notepad.

Keep arrowing down till you find this line “Microsoft.SkypeApp!App=skypeuwp”.

Type home key to go to the start of the line.

Press semicolon to comment the current entry. Now, hold the shift key and keep pressing right arrow.

When JAWS announce ‘equals’, leave the shift key and press control + c to copy the selected or highlighted text.

Type end key to go to the end of the line. Press enter there. Now, paste the text that you just copied earlier.

Now, find another line that says “Skype:8=skypeelectron”.

Copy the text after equals sign and return to the line where you pasted some text before. Press end key to go to the end of the line and press control + v to paste. Now, press control + s to save. Close notepad, and other two windows of file explorer that you opened in the start. Now, restart the JAWS application. Congress, you can now use electron version of skype from Microsoft store.


Re: virtual audio cable?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Sure. I set my default to let's say line to, or my skype to line two or what not, then have my devices listen to line two if that makes sense, It's a bit confusing but no need to use repeaters and the like. I have 3 cables that do things you would not think possible.

On 27 Jun 2020, at 10:47, ken lawrence via groups.io wrote:

Hi list ken here with a question.  A few days ago a friend of mine from out-of-sight radio asked about how to broadcast a phone caller on air a good example is when we have our special giveaways.  I was only aware of either using a mixer which I don’t have or using my microphone and speaker.  She mentioned a program I never heard of called virtual audio cable.  Does anyone know about this program and can it be used to connect skype calls to be broadcast over the air without using mic and speakers.  In other words does it take the place of an external mixer if as I do you use the mixer in station playlist.  That serves me fine. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


virtual audio cable?

ken lawrence
 

Hi list ken here with a question.  A few days ago a friend of mine from out-of-sight radio asked about how to broadcast a phone caller on air a good example is when we have our special giveaways.  I was only aware of either using a mixer which I don’t have or using my microphone and speaker.  She mentioned a program I never heard of called virtual audio cable.  Does anyone know about this program and can it be used to connect skype calls to be broadcast over the air without using mic and speakers.  In other words does it take the place of an external mixer if as I do you use the mixer in station playlist.  That serves me fine. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Already done. And there is now not a feedback utility for mac and skype as far as I can see. Someone emailed the disability desk for Microsoft and the rep I don't thin knew what skype was, in fact told them flat out that they don't have a disability support channel for said app. If this is true, this is indeed sad.

On 13 Jun 2020, at 8:37, Octavian Rasnita wrote:


Hi Sarah,
 
Here are 4 suggestions I found in the mailing list archive (that were made when somebody else had problems with Skype 8:)
 
From: Sarah k Alawami
The point is, that we are seeing way too much talk and no action
. Someone does not like something and they just complain instead of hitting windows f and submitting feedback on said app(s) Microsoft does in fact listen. I am an insider and have ben for about a year on 1 of their platforms and they do listen. They have fixed several bugs on skype for xbox and windows and mac. So, get that feedback in instead of just wishing for somethingn to happen. If you don't like it, there's the door, and you can uninstall skype off of your system, and find somethingn that is better such as facebook or zoom for that matter, but put your energy to constructive feedback stacks reports, diag logs etc.
 
From: Sarah k Alawami
Then sit down, write your feedback to skype directly and not here. We have already heard it. If you you don't like it there is always zoom or the delete key. You tend to sound like a broken record and we are starting to not like it. You in this case and on this list are the minority as you are I hink the only one who is hating skype and its new ways. Either get used to it, get left behind, or leave. I'm speaking as a list member, not a mod.
 
Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually all of them are advantages. I don't like when people, and I've heard this on twitter, not this list, say that skype 8 is inaccessible because it's too hard to use. Not enough people are giving this a chance in my humble opinion. I've ben sing it since prabably October off and on and it has come a long long way. It is faster than 7, easier than 7, and yeah, just works.
 
From: Shaun Oliver
Whenever I see an email from you regarding Skype, it is a never ending litany of charges against it's ease of use, that it's worse than what you had, it's less accessible, it's less efficient, it's this, it's that, or it's the other.
We've heard every single complaint you've raised before, and reitterating them here, is not going to change what currently is. If you feel that strongly about it, contact the MS Disability Access Desk and kindly present them with your arguments.
 
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

I really don't know of any, the forum changed several years ago and became an accessibility nightmare to use, Don't call the disability desk as they won't know what you are talking about in regard to skype. And a lot more disappointing experiences.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:57, Michele Barbi wrote:

Hi guys,

I'd like to contact Skype support for a thing that I am encountering because I think it's a bug, but anyway if you figured out something feel free to answer. Basically, yesterday I manually updated Skype to version 8.61 as soon as it went out, and I figured out that hotkeys mostly don't work, such as alt+numbers for going in to the various Skype parts, or ctrl+shift+p to start an audio call. I only manage to go to the contacts tab with alt+2, but then nothing works. So I'd like to contact Skype support and wanted to know how should I do for it right now.

Bye!

Barbuz


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Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I'm still rocking it, I can still do everything I need to do, I even love the accessible messages that show up in the html view. The only thing I don't like now is that on least on mobile I'm missing notifications and they don't sync properly on skype for anything. They show up as read even though I never read them. Maybe with a skype update that will be fixed. I am though hoping we can use teams at my job as it will be a lot easier then I can see where things go.

On 13 Jun 2020, at 8:36, Octavian Rasnita wrote:

Hi Sarah,
 
When other people complaint that they had a problem with Skype 8, you didn't care and didn't like their messages, just because that time Skype 8 was good enough for you, even if most people were using Skype for Windows. You said:
"Actually I'm loving skype 8 for mac. It is accessible, fast, stable and very easy to use. I've already sent some video messages, files, media, taught my classes, chatted and more. Now if only they would allow the pins and list that I have on windows skype but maybe that will come up. Rocking and loving skype 8 for mac.".
 
I guess that now you don't consider the negative messages about Skype 8 as beeing something bad anymore, once that Skype 8 is also bad for you.
The so call constructive solutions praised on this mailing list were to contact MS customer care and not to say negative things here
 
You said: "I love love love love love windows 10. It is snappy and just works out of the box. I can turn on narrator with windows control enter and set up my system. It just plane rocks. I'm still learning windows 10 but microsoft has taken leaps and bounds in terms of accessibility. I'm also a part of their insider program and I also love that as well.".
 
My suggestion is to start using Windows 10 if you say that you like it so much, and you will see how good is Skype 8 under this OS.
 
PS. Sorry, but it was just a joke. Of course I don't recommend you to use this bad app under this bad OS, at least for the moment.
If a theatre is really bad made, then maybe even the firemen don't have access to extinguish the fire, so it might be abandoned.
 
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

You could try that, but how about those of us not on windows? The mac client is getting harder for some of us to use as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:02, Lino Morales wrote:

I guess the only thing you can try is the Feedback Hub in WIN 10.

On 6/12/2020 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I really don't know of any, the forum changed several years ago and became an accessibility nightmare to use, Don't call the disability desk as they won't know what you are talking about in regard to skype. And a lot more disappointing experiences.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:57, Michele Barbi wrote:

Hi guys,

I'd like to contact Skype support for a thing that I am encountering because I think it's a bug, but anyway if you figured out something feel free to answer. Basically, yesterday I manually updated Skype to version 8.61 as soon as it went out, and I figured out that hotkeys mostly don't work, such as alt+numbers for going in to the various Skype parts, or ctrl+shift+p to start an audio call. I only manage to go to the contacts tab with alt+2, but then nothing works. So I'd like to contact Skype support and wanted to know how should I do for it right now.

Bye!

Barbuz


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Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

Octavian Rasnita
 


Hi Sarah,
 
Here are 4 suggestions I found in the mailing list archive (that were made when somebody else had problems with Skype 8:)
 
From: Sarah k Alawami
The point is, that we are seeing way too much talk and no action
. Someone does not like something and they just complain instead of hitting windows f and submitting feedback on said app(s) Microsoft does in fact listen. I am an insider and have ben for about a year on 1 of their platforms and they do listen. They have fixed several bugs on skype for xbox and windows and mac. So, get that feedback in instead of just wishing for somethingn to happen. If you don't like it, there's the door, and you can uninstall skype off of your system, and find somethingn that is better such as facebook or zoom for that matter, but put your energy to constructive feedback stacks reports, diag logs etc.
 
From: Sarah k Alawami
Then sit down, write your feedback to skype directly and not here. We have already heard it. If you you don't like it there is always zoom or the delete key. You tend to sound like a broken record and we are starting to not like it. You in this case and on this list are the minority as you are I hink the only one who is hating skype and its new ways. Either get used to it, get left behind, or leave. I'm speaking as a list member, not a mod.
 
Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually all of them are advantages. I don't like when people, and I've heard this on twitter, not this list, say that skype 8 is inaccessible because it's too hard to use. Not enough people are giving this a chance in my humble opinion. I've ben sing it since prabably October off and on and it has come a long long way. It is faster than 7, easier than 7, and yeah, just works.
 
From: Shaun Oliver
Whenever I see an email from you regarding Skype, it is a never ending litany of charges against it's ease of use, that it's worse than what you had, it's less accessible, it's less efficient, it's this, it's that, or it's the other.
We've heard every single complaint you've raised before, and reitterating them here, is not going to change what currently is. If you feel that strongly about it, contact the MS Disability Access Desk and kindly present them with your arguments.
 
--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

I really don't know of any, the forum changed several years ago and became an accessibility nightmare to use, Don't call the disability desk as they won't know what you are talking about in regard to skype. And a lot more disappointing experiences.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:57, Michele Barbi wrote:

Hi guys,

I'd like to contact Skype support for a thing that I am encountering because I think it's a bug, but anyway if you figured out something feel free to answer. Basically, yesterday I manually updated Skype to version 8.61 as soon as it went out, and I figured out that hotkeys mostly don't work, such as alt+numbers for going in to the various Skype parts, or ctrl+shift+p to start an audio call. I only manage to go to the contacts tab with alt+2, but then nothing works. So I'd like to contact Skype support and wanted to know how should I do for it right now.

Bye!

Barbuz


-- 
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

Octavian Rasnita
 


Hi Sarah,
 
When other people complaint that they had a problem with Skype 8, you didn't care and didn't like their messages, just because that time Skype 8 was good enough for you, even if most people were using Skype for Windows. You said:
"Actually I'm loving skype 8 for mac. It is accessible, fast, stable and very easy to use. I've already sent some video messages, files, media, taught my classes, chatted and more. Now if only they would allow the pins and list that I have on windows skype but maybe that will come up. Rocking and loving skype 8 for mac.".
 
I guess that now you don't consider the negative messages about Skype 8 as beeing something bad anymore, once that Skype 8 is also bad for you.
The so call constructive solutions praised on this mailing list were to contact MS customer care and not to say negative things here
 
You said: "I love love love love love windows 10. It is snappy and just works out of the box. I can turn on narrator with windows control enter and set up my system. It just plane rocks. I'm still learning windows 10 but microsoft has taken leaps and bounds in terms of accessibility. I'm also a part of their insider program and I also love that as well.".
 
My suggestion is to start using Windows 10 if you say that you like it so much, and you will see how good is Skype 8 under this OS.
 
PS. Sorry, but it was just a joke. Of course I don't recommend you to use this bad app under this bad OS, at least for the moment.
If a theatre is really bad made, then maybe even the firemen don't have access to extinguish the fire, so it might be abandoned.
 
--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

You could try that, but how about those of us not on windows? The mac client is getting harder for some of us to use as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:02, Lino Morales wrote:

I guess the only thing you can try is the Feedback Hub in WIN 10.

On 6/12/2020 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I really don't know of any, the forum changed several years ago and became an accessibility nightmare to use, Don't call the disability desk as they won't know what you are talking about in regard to skype. And a lot more disappointing experiences.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:57, Michele Barbi wrote:

Hi guys,

I'd like to contact Skype support for a thing that I am encountering because I think it's a bug, but anyway if you figured out something feel free to answer. Basically, yesterday I manually updated Skype to version 8.61 as soon as it went out, and I figured out that hotkeys mostly don't work, such as alt+numbers for going in to the various Skype parts, or ctrl+shift+p to start an audio call. I only manage to go to the contacts tab with alt+2, but then nothing works. So I'd like to contact Skype support and wanted to know how should I do for it right now.

Bye!

Barbuz


-- 
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Are there some updated contacts for Skype dev team?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I have to use it for my job, so I still use it. and clients do not want to use another application and learn one. We want to make it as easy for our clients and skype sadly is it. Teams could be used, but that's only for work stuff. By the way my clients for some of them, they have never heard of skype.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:22, Lino Morales wrote:

Well hate to break it to you kids, but who uses Skype anymore anyway? The other clients we can't talk about here are the winners these days.

On 6/12/2020 3:05 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

You could try that, but how about those of us not on windows? The mac client is getting harder for some of us to use as well.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:02, Lino Morales wrote:

I guess the only thing you can try is the Feedback Hub in WIN 10.

On 6/12/2020 3:00 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I really don't know of any, the forum changed several years ago and became an accessibility nightmare to use, Don't call the disability desk as they won't know what you are talking about in regard to skype. And a lot more disappointing experiences.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jun 2020, at 11:57, Michele Barbi wrote:

Hi guys,

I'd like to contact Skype support for a thing that I am encountering because I think it's a bug, but anyway if you figured out something feel free to answer. Basically, yesterday I manually updated Skype to version 8.61 as soon as it went out, and I figured out that hotkeys mostly don't work, such as alt+numbers for going in to the various Skype parts, or ctrl+shift+p to start an audio call. I only manage to go to the contacts tab with alt+2, but then nothing works. So I'd like to contact Skype support and wanted to know how should I do for it right now.

Bye!

Barbuz


-- 
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10

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