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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

Doug's Web page says this:


• Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) JAWS scripts


I am on Windows 10, so I would use this one:


• Skype UWP (Skype for windows 10) JAWS scripts

On 7/27/2018 6:13 AM, Michele Barbi wrote:
But hey, are you trying to use Skype 8.25? If so, revision 102 of Skype UWP scripts is *not* the correct one. You should use Skype electron scripts instead, revision 45, findable at www.dlee.org/skype/electron
Bye!
Barbuz


Re: installing skype 8.0

John Holcomb II
 

That would work fine to.

On Jul 27, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@...> wrote:

Thank you for suggestion, but I think I'll finally need to upgrade to latest JAWS, because I also found
that with JAWS 16 Chrome browser crashes on some sites or it doesn't work
well with others.
And some features from sites can be accessed only with Chrome... for example
uploading music on Google Play Music.

Maybe latest Firefox will also work with latest JAWS...

NVDA is nice, but it is less efficient to switch among screen readers and
use more different sets of hotkeys.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Holcomb II" <@JHRadio>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


You could also use NVDA, try SAToGo, continue to use JAWS16 for your other
apps and use a different screene reader for Skype 8.
On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:04 AM, Stephen Troy <stephentroy1961@...>
wrote:

If skype 8 or UWP is so difficult to use but you still want/need to
access
skype, the Simplest answer.... buy a bluetooth keyboard and use your
phone.



-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:28 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

Trust me, it's no better over there.


On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to
answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find
that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17,
latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain
scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to
that, scripting a website, or in this case an Electron app that acts
like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that,
Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those
controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
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Re: installing skype 8.0

Octavian Rasnita
 

Thank you for suggestion, but I think I'll finally need to upgrade to latest JAWS, because I also found
that with JAWS 16 Chrome browser crashes on some sites or it doesn't work
well with others.
And some features from sites can be accessed only with Chrome... for example
uploading music on Google Play Music.

Maybe latest Firefox will also work with latest JAWS...

NVDA is nice, but it is less efficient to switch among screen readers and
use more different sets of hotkeys.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Holcomb II" <@JHRadio>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


You could also use NVDA, try SAToGo, continue to use JAWS16 for your other
apps and use a different screene reader for Skype 8.
On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:04 AM, Stephen Troy <stephentroy1961@...>
wrote:

If skype 8 or UWP is so difficult to use but you still want/need to
access
skype, the Simplest answer.... buy a bluetooth keyboard and use your
phone.



-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:28 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

Trust me, it's no better over there.


On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to
answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find
that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17,
latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain
scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to
that, scripting a website, or in this case an Electron app that acts
like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that,
Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those
controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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lling%20skype%208.0
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5. https://groups.io/mt/23825173/409874
6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
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Re: installing skype 8.0

John Holcomb II
 

You could also use NVDA, try SAToGo, continue to use JAWS16 for your other apps and use a different screene reader for Skype 8.

On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:04 AM, Stephen Troy <stephentroy1961@...> wrote:

If skype 8 or UWP is so difficult to use but you still want/need to access
skype, the Simplest answer.... buy a bluetooth keyboard and use your phone.



-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:28 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

Trust me, it's no better over there.


On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to
answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find
that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17,
latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain
scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to
that, scripting a website, or in this case an Electron app that acts
like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that,
Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those
controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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lling%20skype%208.0
4.
mailto:jpryde1@...?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%2
0installing%20skype%208.0
5. https://groups.io/mt/23825173/409874
6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
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Re: Skype Electron and Chrome and jaws script confusion

Jerry Pryde
 

That's my understanding too.
I'm not too worried about it. I'll figure something out.
The last time something like this happened, a few years ago, it turned out I qualified for a free JAWS upgrade.
Here's hoping.
This could be simply a bump in the road.
I'll figure this out somehow.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 7:21 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Electron and Chrome and jaws script confusion

So For Jerry for instance, his version of JAWS is older so wouldn't work with the Chrome browser let alone electron apps right?
Because to use this newest version of Skype 8, JAWS needs to work well with chrome controls and how chrome prevents web content, correct?
This here a prime example of how an older version of a screene reader won't work so well since the app updating models is a fast moving target?

I have JAWS2018, so that should not be a problem and your scripts should also work fine in this case.
Thanks Dug,
John
On Jul 26, 2018, at 10:30 PM, Doug Lee <dgl@...> wrote:

Electron is a platform on which some modern applications are built. It includes a Chrome control in which web-like content, complete with Javascript code, can run. An Electron app can include other components as well, but the
interface presented to the user is a Chrome control with web-like content inside it. Electron apps run inside this control without requiring an actual browser though, so you don't have to have or use the Google Chrome browser
to run an Electron app.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:05:20PM -0400, John Holcomb II wrote:
What does Electron mean, and what is this Chrome thing you all have
mentioned? Something in regards to JAWS and the scripts for Skype 8?
I'm lost on this part of it all.


I don't have Chrome as a browser installed, and can't imagine that
Microsoft would make it that you have to have this installed to use
Skype 8. In fact I'm sure this is not the case. So since this is
obviously not Chrome the browser, what exactly is it?

Thanks all,

John





References

1. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/2830
2. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%20Electron%20and%20Chrome%20and%20jaws%20script%20confusion
3. mailto:@JHRadio?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%20Electron%20and%20Chrome%20and%20jaws%20script%20confusion
4. https://groups.io/mt/23828824/409874
5. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
6. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
7. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874
8. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io
9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"A mailing list is a crude but effective cross between a
chain letter and a shouting match." -Andrew Kantor



Re: Skype Electron and Chrome and jaws script confusion

John Holcomb II
 

So For Jerry for instance, his version of JAWS is older so wouldn't work with the Chrome browser let alone electron apps right?
Because to use this newest version of Skype 8, JAWS needs to work well with chrome controls and how chrome prevents web content, correct?
This here a prime example of how an older version of a screene reader won't work so well since the app updating models is a fast moving target?

I have JAWS2018, so that should not be a problem and your scripts should also work fine in this case.
Thanks Dug,
John

On Jul 26, 2018, at 10:30 PM, Doug Lee <dgl@...> wrote:

Electron is a platform on which some modern applications are built. It includes a Chrome control in which web-like content, complete with Javascript code, can run. An Electron app can include other components as well, but the
interface presented to the user is a Chrome control with web-like content inside it. Electron apps run inside this control without requiring an actual browser though, so you don't have to have or use the Google Chrome browser
to run an Electron app.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:05:20PM -0400, John Holcomb II wrote:
What does Electron mean, and what is this Chrome thing you all have
mentioned? Something in regards to JAWS and the scripts for Skype 8?
I'm lost on this part of it all.


I don't have Chrome as a browser installed, and can't imagine that
Microsoft would make it that you have to have this installed to use
Skype 8. In fact I'm sure this is not the case. So since this is
obviously not Chrome the browser, what exactly is it?

Thanks all,

John





References

1. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/2830
2. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%20Electron%20and%20Chrome%20and%20jaws%20script%20confusion
3. mailto:@JHRadio?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%20Electron%20and%20Chrome%20and%20jaws%20script%20confusion
4. https://groups.io/mt/23828824/409874
5. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
6. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
7. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874
8. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io
9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"A mailing list is a crude but effective cross between a
chain letter and a shouting match." -Andrew Kantor



Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?

Michele Barbi
 

But hey, are you trying to use Skype 8.25? If so, revision 102 of Skype UWP scripts is *not* the correct one. You should use Skype electron scripts instead, revision 45, findable at www.dlee.org/skype/electron
Bye!
Barbuz


Re: installing skype 8.0

Octavian Rasnita
 

Thank you for consolation. :)

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


Trust me, it's no better over there.


On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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4. mailto:jpryde1@...?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20installing%20skype%208.0
5. https://groups.io/mt/23825173/409874
6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
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Re: installing skype 8.0

Stephen Troy
 

If skype 8 or UWP is so difficult to use but you still want/need to access
skype, the Simplest answer.... buy a bluetooth keyboard and use your phone.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:28 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

Trust me, it's no better over there.


On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to
answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find
that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17,
latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain
scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to
that, scripting a website, or in this case an Electron app that acts
like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that,
Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those
controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
      Hi all.

  Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
  Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
  Anything I need to watch for?
  Jerry.

  Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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  3.
mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20insta
lling%20skype%208.0
  4.
mailto:jpryde1@...?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%2
0installing%20skype%208.0
  5. https://groups.io/mt/23825173/409874
  6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
  7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
  8. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874
  9. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io
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Re: installing skype 8.0

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

Trust me, it's no better over there.

On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
      Hi all.

  Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
  Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
  Anything I need to watch for?
  Jerry.

  Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



References

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  4. mailto:jpryde1@...?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20installing%20skype%208.0
  5. https://groups.io/mt/23825173/409874
  6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
  7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
  8. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874
  9. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io
 10. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged

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Re: installing skype 8.0

Octavian Rasnita
 

Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

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Re: Skype Electron and Chrome and jaws script confusion

Doug Lee
 

Electron is a platform on which some modern applications are built. It includes a Chrome control in which web-like content, complete with Javascript code, can run. An Electron app can include other components as well, but the
interface presented to the user is a Chrome control with web-like content inside it. Electron apps run inside this control without requiring an actual browser though, so you don't have to have or use the Google Chrome browser
to run an Electron app.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:05:20PM -0400, John Holcomb II wrote:
What does Electron mean, and what is this Chrome thing you all have
mentioned? Something in regards to JAWS and the scripts for Skype 8?
I'm lost on this part of it all.


I don't have Chrome as a browser installed, and can't imagine that
Microsoft would make it that you have to have this installed to use
Skype 8. In fact I'm sure this is not the case. So since this is
obviously not Chrome the browser, what exactly is it?

Thanks all,

John





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Re: Skype Electron and Chrome and jaws script confusion

John Holcomb II
 

What does Electron mean, and what is this Chrome thing you all have mentioned? Something in regards to JAWS and the scripts for Skype 8? I’m lost on this part of it all.

 

I don’t have Chrome as a  browser installed, and can’t imagine that Microsoft would make it that you have to have this installed to use Skype 8. In fact I’m sure this is not the case. So  since this is obviously not Chrome the browser, what exactly is it?

Thanks all,

John

 

 


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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?

Doug Lee
 

You are indeed running Skype 8, the Electron app. The scripts for that one are at http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/

If you really want Skype UWP, get it from the Microsoft Windows Store.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 06:12:22PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Skype version 8.25.


On 7/26/2018 3:15 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
I saw your Tandem offer but I'm doing a lot of other things between messages today. :)

Chrome should load only for Skype 8, so I suggest using the JAWS Ctrl+JAWSKey+V command and telling me the version number of your Skype. It actually sounds like you are indeed running Skype 8.

uia.jsh should not come back btw, as you found was the case; so that part worked as expected.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:32:52PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
1. In JAWS 2018's "Explore my settings" directory, I renamed UIA.JSH to
UIA;.JSH.BAD.


2. Re-installed U WP scripts version 102 while running JAWS2018.

2.1. When it came time to select into which version(s) of JAWS I wanted to
install the scripts, only version 18 was selected automatically, so I selected
2018 as well and proceeded.

2.2. The installation completed successfully.

2.3. Upon running Skype, it still says Chrome settings are loaded.

2.4. No new version of UIA.JSH was created.


On 7/26/2018 2:11 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
I believe you've been bitten by a little but hard to explain bug. Delete uia.jsh in the JAWS user folder, not the shared folder, and then reinstall.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:07:11PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
And it now just occurred to me why those errors happened. When I installed, I
had JAWS 17 running the first and third times, JAWS 2018 running the second
time. If I use J2018, the install will likely be successful.

PS, if you'd like to Tandem in and see what's going on, just let me know, I'm
ready to receive.






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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

Skype version 8.25.

On 7/26/2018 3:15 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
I saw your Tandem offer but I'm doing a lot of other things between messages today. :)

Chrome should load only for Skype 8, so I suggest using the JAWS Ctrl+JAWSKey+V command and telling me the version number of your Skype. It actually sounds like you are indeed running Skype 8.

uia.jsh should not come back btw, as you found was the case; so that part worked as expected.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:32:52PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
1. In JAWS 2018's "Explore my settings" directory, I renamed UIA.JSH to
UIA;.JSH.BAD.


2. Re-installed U WP scripts version 102 while running JAWS2018.

2.1. When it came time to select into which version(s) of JAWS I wanted to
install the scripts, only version 18 was selected automatically, so I selected
2018 as well and proceeded.

2.2. The installation completed successfully.

2.3. Upon running Skype, it still says Chrome settings are loaded.

2.4. No new version of UIA.JSH was created.


On 7/26/2018 2:11 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
I believe you've been bitten by a little but hard to explain bug. Delete uia.jsh in the JAWS user folder, not the shared folder, and then reinstall.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:07:11PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
And it now just occurred to me why those errors happened. When I installed, I
had JAWS 17 running the first and third times, JAWS 2018 running the second
time. If I use J2018, the install will likely be successful.

PS, if you'd like to Tandem in and see what's going on, just let me know, I'm
ready to receive.




Re: installing skype 8.0

Jerry Pryde
 

Thanks billions, Doug.
I'll try it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:04 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

Try Skype 8 with JAWS 15 and no scripts. Use Ins+Z to turn on and off the virtual cursor as preferred; I like it off most of the time. You may get away with this setup, but I can't easily test that here anymore.

I must point out, though, that the world of software development is rapidly switching to a continuous-development model, where changes roll out in days or hours instead of weeks or months. Old screen reader incarnations
probably will not be able to keep up with this. I'm sure it's no accident that Freedom Scientific spent a lot of man hours replacing their installer and setting up a system for providing faster and more frequent JAWS updates;
it is becoming a requirement for screen reader survival, I'd say.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 03:39:06PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
So, I could be sunk, unless there's an alternative somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:20 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest
available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting"
feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required
modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on
Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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Re: installing skype 8.0

Doug Lee
 

Try Skype 8 with JAWS 15 and no scripts. Use Ins+Z to turn on and off the virtual cursor as preferred; I like it off most of the time. You may get away with this setup, but I can't easily test that here anymore.

I must point out, though, that the world of software development is rapidly switching to a continuous-development model, where changes roll out in days or hours instead of weeks or months. Old screen reader incarnations
probably will not be able to keep up with this. I'm sure it's no accident that Freedom Scientific spent a lot of man hours replacing their installer and setting up a system for providing faster and more frequent JAWS updates;
it is becoming a requirement for screen reader survival, I'd say.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 03:39:06PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
So, I could be sunk, unless there's an alternative somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:20 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest
available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting"
feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required
modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on
Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Ill install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

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Re: installing skype 8.0

John Holcomb II
 

Hey all,
So what is this Chrome/Electron stuff with JAWS that yall keep talking
about? Explain for a newb please?
Thanks
John

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:21 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest
available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting"
feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required
modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on
Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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Re: installing skype 8.0

Jerry Pryde
 

So, I could be sunk, unless there's an alternative somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 2:20 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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