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Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

Ah-ha.  Well understood. Fog  = gone.

On 7/29/2018 3:46 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Glad things are clearing up and starting to work for you. :-)

The rest of this message is meant to clear a few remaining cobwebs out of the equation in case this is useful:

Microsoft owns Skype now, so both Skype 8 and Skype UWP are actually Microsoft products in reality.

And yes, the "older than Windows 10" is my fault lol: Microsoft initially did not support Skype 8 on Windows 10 when I wrote those pages and those scripts. Now they do, so the verbiage has begun changing on my website but is
not fully up to date yet, partly because I've been off doing other things this weekend. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 03:00:40AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
I think the fog has finally cleared. It took me all this time to understand
there are two versions of the same application from two suppliers, their look
and feel seems quite similar to me, and therein lay most of the confusion.


When I run Skype UWP, it does indeed say scripts version 102, etc., and
everything works as documented. WONDERFUL!


Re the Electron version, the only reason I never tried, or thought to try,
that one is because the link says:


??? Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) JAWS scripts


Come to think of it, the NVDA add-on link says the same thing:


??? Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) NVDA addon (direct
link)


I'm on Windows 10.?? It would never occur to me to choose either of those. I
obey the signs (grin). The link titles make it sound like I should use them if
I am on Windows 7 or 8.1--"less than Windows 10."

Thanks for all the clarification. I think I have it sorted now.

So now the next phase of confounderation begins. There are now two Skypes, one
from Skype itself, one from Microsoft. What sort of craziness are these people
foisting off on us? Hopefully one will just go away.?? But which one?

On 7/29/2018 2:24 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
You are correct that Skype 8 is from the website and Skype UWP is from the Store.

But there are scripts for both, and you have to load the scripts for the Skype version you are using.

For Skype 8 for Windows Desktop: http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
For Skype UWP: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/

You can just load both sets of scripts so that scripts will load for whichever Skype you are using at a given time. Given the confusion here, perhaps that would be a good move. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 02:03:02AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
OK, the fog is burning off (LOL).


On one computer, I have Skype for Desktop version 8.25. On another I have that
one, plus the one from the Microsoft Store. I have figured out how to start
the correct one, 8.25, and have pinned it to the Task Bar so I'll never start
the wrong one again. So, if I run the UWP one, *THAT* is the one the scripts
are for. Have I got it right this time? Oy, I don't know why this was so
confusing, except I thought the phrase "Skype 8" had to do with the one from
skype.com *AND* the UWP version from the MS Store.

On 7/29/2018 1:26 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Skype 8 is not from the Store. Skype 8 is from skype.com. Skype UWP is from the Store. You can have both on your computer at once, but I'm saying it sounds like the one you are actually running is Skype 8. You can probably run
both at the same time still. I did that for months while scripting them actually. But of course, I imagine you'll just want to pick one of them. :)

I am confused that you say "Skype 8.25 UWP" though. I don't run Skype UWP anymore, so I don't have a current version number for that one; but I don't remember it being 8.anything, and I thought someone said the next version of
Skype UWP will be 14.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:18:14AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described
and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm
not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype
8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than
10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the
Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.





Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

John Holcomb II
 

Why would one need one version over the other? Actually, why did Microsoft have two version of Skype? This confuses people. Wouldn't Skype 8 be good enough?
No, because it wouldn't support Windows 10 in S mode, right? So they have to have store app.

On Jul 29, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Doug Lee <dgl@...> wrote:

Glad things are clearing up and starting to work for you. :-)

The rest of this message is meant to clear a few remaining cobwebs out of the equation in case this is useful:

Microsoft owns Skype now, so both Skype 8 and Skype UWP are actually Microsoft products in reality.

And yes, the "older than Windows 10" is my fault lol: Microsoft initially did not support Skype 8 on Windows 10 when I wrote those pages and those scripts. Now they do, so the verbiage has begun changing on my website but is
not fully up to date yet, partly because I've been off doing other things this weekend. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 03:00:40AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
I think the fog has finally cleared. It took me all this time to understand
there are two versions of the same application from two suppliers, their look
and feel seems quite similar to me, and therein lay most of the confusion.


When I run Skype UWP, it does indeed say scripts version 102, etc., and
everything works as documented. WONDERFUL!


Re the Electron version, the only reason I never tried, or thought to try,
that one is because the link says:


??? Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) JAWS scripts


Come to think of it, the NVDA add-on link says the same thing:


??? Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) NVDA addon (direct
link)


I'm on Windows 10.?? It would never occur to me to choose either of those. I
obey the signs (grin). The link titles make it sound like I should use them if
I am on Windows 7 or 8.1--"less than Windows 10."

Thanks for all the clarification. I think I have it sorted now.

So now the next phase of confounderation begins. There are now two Skypes, one
from Skype itself, one from Microsoft. What sort of craziness are these people
foisting off on us? Hopefully one will just go away.?? But which one?

On 7/29/2018 2:24 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
You are correct that Skype 8 is from the website and Skype UWP is from the Store.

But there are scripts for both, and you have to load the scripts for the Skype version you are using.

For Skype 8 for Windows Desktop: http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
For Skype UWP: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/

You can just load both sets of scripts so that scripts will load for whichever Skype you are using at a given time. Given the confusion here, perhaps that would be a good move. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 02:03:02AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
OK, the fog is burning off (LOL).


On one computer, I have Skype for Desktop version 8.25. On another I have that
one, plus the one from the Microsoft Store. I have figured out how to start
the correct one, 8.25, and have pinned it to the Task Bar so I'll never start
the wrong one again. So, if I run the UWP one, *THAT* is the one the scripts
are for. Have I got it right this time? Oy, I don't know why this was so
confusing, except I thought the phrase "Skype 8" had to do with the one from
skype.com *AND* the UWP version from the MS Store.

On 7/29/2018 1:26 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Skype 8 is not from the Store. Skype 8 is from skype.com. Skype UWP is from the Store. You can have both on your computer at once, but I'm saying it sounds like the one you are actually running is Skype 8. You can probably run
both at the same time still. I did that for months while scripting them actually. But of course, I imagine you'll just want to pick one of them. :)

I am confused that you say "Skype 8.25 UWP" though. I don't run Skype UWP anymore, so I don't have a current version number for that one; but I don't remember it being 8.anything, and I thought someone said the next version of
Skype UWP will be 14.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:18:14AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described
and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm
not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype
8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than
10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the
Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
Don't be afraid your life will end; be afraid that itwill never begin.
-- Grace Hansen



Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Doug Lee
 

Glad things are clearing up and starting to work for you. :-)

The rest of this message is meant to clear a few remaining cobwebs out of the equation in case this is useful:

Microsoft owns Skype now, so both Skype 8 and Skype UWP are actually Microsoft products in reality.

And yes, the "older than Windows 10" is my fault lol: Microsoft initially did not support Skype 8 on Windows 10 when I wrote those pages and those scripts. Now they do, so the verbiage has begun changing on my website but is
not fully up to date yet, partly because I've been off doing other things this weekend. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 03:00:40AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
I think the fog has finally cleared. It took me all this time to understand
there are two versions of the same application from two suppliers, their look
and feel seems quite similar to me, and therein lay most of the confusion.


When I run Skype UWP, it does indeed say scripts version 102, etc., and
everything works as documented. WONDERFUL!


Re the Electron version, the only reason I never tried, or thought to try,
that one is because the link says:


??? Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) JAWS scripts


Come to think of it, the NVDA add-on link says the same thing:


??? Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) NVDA addon (direct
link)


I'm on Windows 10.?? It would never occur to me to choose either of those. I
obey the signs (grin). The link titles make it sound like I should use them if
I am on Windows 7 or 8.1--"less than Windows 10."

Thanks for all the clarification. I think I have it sorted now.

So now the next phase of confounderation begins. There are now two Skypes, one
from Skype itself, one from Microsoft. What sort of craziness are these people
foisting off on us? Hopefully one will just go away.?? But which one?

On 7/29/2018 2:24 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
You are correct that Skype 8 is from the website and Skype UWP is from the Store.

But there are scripts for both, and you have to load the scripts for the Skype version you are using.

For Skype 8 for Windows Desktop: http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
For Skype UWP: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/

You can just load both sets of scripts so that scripts will load for whichever Skype you are using at a given time. Given the confusion here, perhaps that would be a good move. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 02:03:02AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
OK, the fog is burning off (LOL).


On one computer, I have Skype for Desktop version 8.25. On another I have that
one, plus the one from the Microsoft Store. I have figured out how to start
the correct one, 8.25, and have pinned it to the Task Bar so I'll never start
the wrong one again. So, if I run the UWP one, *THAT* is the one the scripts
are for. Have I got it right this time? Oy, I don't know why this was so
confusing, except I thought the phrase "Skype 8" had to do with the one from
skype.com *AND* the UWP version from the MS Store.

On 7/29/2018 1:26 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Skype 8 is not from the Store. Skype 8 is from skype.com. Skype UWP is from the Store. You can have both on your computer at once, but I'm saying it sounds like the one you are actually running is Skype 8. You can probably run
both at the same time still. I did that for months while scripting them actually. But of course, I imagine you'll just want to pick one of them. :)

I am confused that you say "Skype 8.25 UWP" though. I don't run Skype UWP anymore, so I don't have a current version number for that one; but I don't remember it being 8.anything, and I thought someone said the next version of
Skype UWP will be 14.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:18:14AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described
and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm
not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype
8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than
10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the
Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.







--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
Don't be afraid your life will end; be afraid that itwill never begin.
-- Grace Hansen


Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

I think the fog has finally cleared. It took me all this time to understand there are two versions of the same application from two suppliers, their look and feel seems quite similar to me, and therein lay most of the confusion.


When I run Skype UWP, it does indeed say scripts version 102, etc., and everything works as documented. WONDERFUL!


Re the Electron version, the only reason I never tried, or thought to try, that one is because the link says:


• Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) JAWS scripts


Come to think of it, the NVDA add-on link says the same thing:


• Skype 8 (Electron app, Skype for Windows older than 10) NVDA addon (direct link)


I'm on Windows 10.  It would never occur to me to choose either of those. I obey the signs (grin). The link titles make it sound like I should use them if I am on Windows 7 or 8.1--"less than Windows 10."

Thanks for all the clarification. I think I have it sorted now.

So now the next phase of confounderation begins. There are now two Skypes, one from Skype itself, one from Microsoft. What sort of craziness are these people foisting off on us? Hopefully one will just go away.  But which one?

On 7/29/2018 2:24 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
You are correct that Skype 8 is from the website and Skype UWP is from the Store.

But there are scripts for both, and you have to load the scripts for the Skype version you are using.

For Skype 8 for Windows Desktop: http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
For Skype UWP: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/

You can just load both sets of scripts so that scripts will load for whichever Skype you are using at a given time. Given the confusion here, perhaps that would be a good move. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 02:03:02AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
OK, the fog is burning off (LOL).


On one computer, I have Skype for Desktop version 8.25. On another I have that
one, plus the one from the Microsoft Store. I have figured out how to start
the correct one, 8.25, and have pinned it to the Task Bar so I'll never start
the wrong one again. So, if I run the UWP one, *THAT* is the one the scripts
are for. Have I got it right this time? Oy, I don't know why this was so
confusing, except I thought the phrase "Skype 8" had to do with the one from
skype.com *AND* the UWP version from the MS Store.

On 7/29/2018 1:26 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Skype 8 is not from the Store. Skype 8 is from skype.com. Skype UWP is from the Store. You can have both on your computer at once, but I'm saying it sounds like the one you are actually running is Skype 8. You can probably run
both at the same time still. I did that for months while scripting them actually. But of course, I imagine you'll just want to pick one of them. :)

I am confused that you say "Skype 8.25 UWP" though. I don't run Skype UWP anymore, so I don't have a current version number for that one; but I don't remember it being 8.anything, and I thought someone said the next version of
Skype UWP will be 14.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:18:14AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described
and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm
not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype
8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than
10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the
Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.





Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Doug Lee
 

You are correct that Skype 8 is from the website and Skype UWP is from the Store.

But there are scripts for both, and you have to load the scripts for the Skype version you are using.

For Skype 8 for Windows Desktop: http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
For Skype UWP: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/

You can just load both sets of scripts so that scripts will load for whichever Skype you are using at a given time. Given the confusion here, perhaps that would be a good move. :-)

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 02:03:02AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
OK, the fog is burning off (LOL).


On one computer, I have Skype for Desktop version 8.25. On another I have that
one, plus the one from the Microsoft Store. I have figured out how to start
the correct one, 8.25, and have pinned it to the Task Bar so I'll never start
the wrong one again. So, if I run the UWP one, *THAT* is the one the scripts
are for. Have I got it right this time? Oy, I don't know why this was so
confusing, except I thought the phrase "Skype 8" had to do with the one from
skype.com *AND* the UWP version from the MS Store.

On 7/29/2018 1:26 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Skype 8 is not from the Store. Skype 8 is from skype.com. Skype UWP is from the Store. You can have both on your computer at once, but I'm saying it sounds like the one you are actually running is Skype 8. You can probably run
both at the same time still. I did that for months while scripting them actually. But of course, I imagine you'll just want to pick one of them. :)

I am confused that you say "Skype 8.25 UWP" though. I don't run Skype UWP anymore, so I don't have a current version number for that one; but I don't remember it being 8.anything, and I thought someone said the next version of
Skype UWP will be 14.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:18:14AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described
and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm
not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype
8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than
10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the
Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.







--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Pray devoutly, but hammer stoutly."
--Sir William G. Benham


Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

OK, the fog is burning off (LOL).


On one computer, I have Skype for Desktop version 8.25. On another I have that one, plus the one from the Microsoft Store. I have figured out how to start the correct one, 8.25, and have pinned it to the Task Bar so I'll never start the wrong one again. So, if I run the UWP one, *THAT* is the one the scripts are for. Have I got it right this time? Oy, I don't know why this was so confusing, except I thought the phrase "Skype 8" had to do with the one from skype.com *AND* the UWP version from the MS Store.

On 7/29/2018 1:26 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Skype 8 is not from the Store. Skype 8 is from skype.com. Skype UWP is from the Store. You can have both on your computer at once, but I'm saying it sounds like the one you are actually running is Skype 8. You can probably run
both at the same time still. I did that for months while scripting them actually. But of course, I imagine you'll just want to pick one of them. :)

I am confused that you say "Skype 8.25 UWP" though. I don't run Skype UWP anymore, so I don't have a current version number for that one; but I don't remember it being 8.anything, and I thought someone said the next version of
Skype UWP will be 14.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:18:14AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described
and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm
not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype
8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than
10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the
Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.





Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Doug Lee
 

Skype 8 is not from the Store. Skype 8 is from skype.com. Skype UWP is from the Store. You can have both on your computer at once, but I'm saying it sounds like the one you are actually running is Skype 8. You can probably run
both at the same time still. I did that for months while scripting them actually. But of course, I imagine you'll just want to pick one of them. :)

I am confused that you say "Skype 8.25 UWP" though. I don't run Skype UWP anymore, so I don't have a current version number for that one; but I don't remember it being 8.anything, and I thought someone said the next version of
Skype UWP will be 14.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 01:18:14AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described
and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm
not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype
8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than
10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the
Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.






--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was
done." --Helen Keller


Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

The fog thickens, I'm sorry to say.


On 7/29/2018 1:06 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8.
Yes, 8.25 UWP to be exact.

So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app.
But ... but ... I hate to sound so stupid, but there's obviously something I'm not getting here. Skype 8 from the MS Store is different than some other Skype 8? And if your site says the NVDA add-on is for versions of Windows less than 10, and I'm running Windows 10, how is that the right thing to do? Ditto the Electron application stuff?


I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.




Re: Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Doug Lee
 

Microsoft recently started officially supporting Skype 8 on Windows 10, and it sounds from your messages like you are actually running Skype 8. So you have two choices: Get the Skype 8 JAWS and/or NVDA support as described and
use that, or grab and use Skype UWP from the Store and get the described support for JAWS and/or NVDA for that app. I think Microsoft will continue to support Skype UWP for a while though I would like confirmation of their
plans for that one sometime. I am quite sure Microsoft will continue to support Skype 8 for a while now.

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:38:43AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Doug:


??Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a
version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is
running. What?? can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.




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He did not know he could not fly, so he did."
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Still Confused About Skype 8.25 UWP

Steve Matzura <number6@...>
 

Doug:


 Electron and NVDA add-on are the wrong choices because I'm not using a version of Windows less than 10. Scripts for Windows 10 insist Chrome is running. What  can I do to fix this?


Thanks as always. I've clearly mucked something badly.


Re: windows shutting down skype 7.4

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m actually on 8.25, got the update yesterday. I am still loving it. I’m not using any nvda add ons but it is still workable. It looks like a web page. It’s really easy and remidns me sort of of themac client.

On 27 Jul 2018, at 18:41, Sugar Lopez wrote:

Hi all

I lost the article about skype 7.4 being tossed away for windows 10 users?

Has anyone tried version 8.5?

And if so any thoughts?

Sugar

Who uses 7.4 on a windows 10 and jaws 10 on a lonovo desk top

smile

 

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."

-Winnie the Pooh

Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Hugs, Sugar

 


Re: windows shutting down skype 7.4

Michele Barbi
 

Ok guys, I think Sugar made a mistake in indicating with JAWS version he is using. 10 is old by now, and won't support Windows 10 at all.
That been said, I checked out system requirements for Skype UWP scripts, and I figured out that these scripts will only support JFW 18 or higher, not 17 which Skype 8 electron scripts do.
Bye!
Barbuz


Re: windows shutting down skype 7.4

Stephen Troy
 

Hi

 

Not sure if anyone sent you any info but skype 7 is being shut down on September 1 and we will have to choose between skype 8.25 (electron) and skype for windows 10, better known as UWP.

 

Both are accessible, possibly not as accessible as 7 but that one won’t be an option so I guess we have to move on. There are scripts available for both at dlee.org/skype.

 

You also need to have jaws 17 and upwards for skype 8 orUWP. I believe both will work with older versions of jaws but to what extent I’m not sure.

 

Regards

 

Steve

 

  

 

 

From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar Lopez
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 2:42 AM
To: Skype English List <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Subject: [skypeenglish] windows shutting down skype 7.4

 

Hi all

I lost the article about skype 7.4 being tossed away for windows 10 users?

Has anyone tried version 8.5?

And if so any thoughts?

Sugar

Who uses 7.4 on a windows 10 and jaws 10 on a lonovo desk top

smile

 

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."

-Winnie the Pooh

Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Hugs, Sugar

 


windows shutting down skype 7.4

Sugar Lopez
 

Hi all

I lost the article about skype 7.4 being tossed away for windows 10 users?

Has anyone tried version 8.5?

And if so any thoughts?

Sugar

Who uses 7.4 on a windows 10 and jaws 10 on a lonovo desk top

smile

 

"A day without a friend is like a pot without a drop of honey."

-Winnie the Pooh

Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Hugs, Sugar

 


Re: installing skype 8.0

adrian
 

When I öppen the new skype on the Mac it wil not sign me in

On Jul 27, 2018, at 6:45 AM, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@...> wrote:

Thank you for suggestion, but I think I'll finally need to upgrade to latest JAWS, because I also found
that with JAWS 16 Chrome browser crashes on some sites or it doesn't work
well with others.
And some features from sites can be accessed only with Chrome... for example
uploading music on Google Play Music.

Maybe latest Firefox will also work with latest JAWS...

NVDA is nice, but it is less efficient to switch among screen readers and
use more different sets of hotkeys.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Holcomb II" <@JHRadio>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


You could also use NVDA, try SAToGo, continue to use JAWS16 for your other
apps and use a different screene reader for Skype 8.
On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:04 AM, Stephen Troy <stephentroy1961@...>
wrote:

If skype 8 or UWP is so difficult to use but you still want/need to
access
skype, the Simplest answer.... buy a bluetooth keyboard and use your
phone.



-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:28 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0

Trust me, it's no better over there.


On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to
answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find
that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17,
latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain
scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to
that, scripting a website, or in this case an Electron app that acts
like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that,
Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those
controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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Re: installing skype 8.0

Octavian Rasnita
 

Maybe Steve was referring to the whole experience on Mac, not only about using Skype... I suppose.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


Actually I’m loving skype 8 for mac. It is accessible, fast, stable
and very easy to use. I’ve already sent some video messages, files,
media, taught my classes, chatted and more. Now if only they would allow
the pins and list that I have on windows skype but maybe that will come
up. Rocking and loving skype 8 for mac.

On 26 Jul 2018, at 22:28, Steve Matzura wrote:

Trust me, it's no better over there.


On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile)

I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16.

I start to understand the people that prefer Macs.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0


The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all.

Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.

Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com



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Re: answer and hang-up

Kimmie
 

Hi Brenda. Control shift P to answer and control e to hang up, but I think you’ve got to be in the skype window.

 

From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of Brenda Green
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2018 10:18 p.m.
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] answer and hang-up

 

Apology if this has already been asked and answered.

In Skype 8.25, how do you answer an in-coming call and how do you hang-up a call?

Thank you in advance.


Re: installing skype 8.0

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I’m loving skype 8 for mac. It is accessible, fast, stable and very easy to use. I’ve already sent some video messages, files, media, taught my classes, chatted and more. Now if only they would allow the pins and list that I have on windows skype but maybe that will come up. Rocking and loving skype 8 for mac.

On 26 Jul 2018, at 22:28, Steve Matzura wrote:

Trust me, it's no better over there.

On 7/26/2018 11:42 PM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > Each day some bad news about Skype 8! (smile) > > I thought the worst thing is that it can't accept a general hotkey to > answer or that it doesn't allow split chat windows, but now I find > that it doesn't even work with my JAWS 16. > > I start to understand the people that prefer Macs. > > --Octavian > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" dgl@... > To: skypeenglish@groups.io > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] installing skype 8.0 > > > The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, > latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the > "domain scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. > Prior to that, scripting a > website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required > modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based > on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well. > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote: >       Hi all. > >   Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts. >   Jaws 15.0 on win-7. >   Anything I need to watch for? >   Jerry. > >   Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com > > > > References > >   Visible links >   1. > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient >   2. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/2817 >   3. > mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20installing%20skype%208.0 >   4. > mailto:jpryde1@...?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20installing%20skype%208.0 >   5. https://groups.io/mt/23825173/409874 >   6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post >   7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ >   8. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874 >   9. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io >  10. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged > >   Hidden links: >  12. > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient >  13. > file://localhost/Users/dlee/tmp/neomutt-mini-501-99760-10396158671224087683#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2 >


Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?

Michele Barbi
 

I know but I think first information is out-of-date. Looks like MS is making Windows 10 users be able to use Skype 8.25 as well.
Bye!
Barbuz


answer and hang-up

Brenda Green <brenda.green@...>
 

Apology if this has already been asked and answered.

In Skype 8.25, how do you answer an in-coming call and how do you hang-up a call?

Thank you in advance.