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Re: strange happening on skype

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can yuuou just hav eit to where you must be in the contacts to call? I would do this.

Take care

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On 8 Apr 2020, at 6:02, ken lawrence via groups.io wrote:

Hi list ken here.  For the third time in a row after signing into our radio station skype in rapid fire succession there has been a whole big bunch of missed called from the same number.  Last Wednesday there were 13 of them all at once, then Sunday there were I think 9 and today five all rapid fire.  We have a landline number that works with skype it’s as if an autodialer is trying trying and trying to call us and each time it hits a nonworking number it tries again. And when I or someone else logs in bang whole big block of missed calls.  It’s obviously telemarketers.  Blocking does no good because likely the number being used is a spoof of a nonworking number. Is there any way to stop this crap?  I have gotten telemarketers as requests. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Octavian Rasnita
 

Thank you. I tried this method but it just makes a short beep and a little longer one without moving the focus to the list of chats. Probably you are using Windows 10.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michele Barbi" <barbi.michele@gmail.com>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today


Hi there,

concerning Skype chat I use scripts revision 137, so I use scripts command, meaning command key followed by h for going into the history tab. I did not test other commands myself, the ones mentioned on some previous messages, such as ctrl+shift+y, may come from Freedom scientific.

Another correction on point 5 of Doug original post of this thread. I noticed the strange behaviour of focus going back to one star very fast after I go out of this, but it happens after regular Skype calls, not Skype to phone ones; I don't make Skype to phone calls since a very large amount of time and my credit is now disabled.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Octavian Rasnita
 

Hi Doug,

Thank you for the list of Skype alternatives. I tested some of them, and I will test TeamTalk, TeamSpeak and Zello, because the ones I tried are not at least as good as the old Skype for Desktop.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today


I can confirm that Skype can be slow to switch chats. I'm pretty sure that happens regardless of whether you run scripts, or even JAWS; but someone please prove me wrong if possible.

The hotkey for moving to message history is also not working as well as it once did, but I may be able to fix that one. I noticed it earlier this weekend but did not include it in my message because I wanted to test it
further before commenting on it.

As for Skype alternatives, here's a somewhat complete list of what I've worked with lately, in no particular order. This list includes of course only the clients and platforms I've seen and/or scripted in a non-professional
setting; i.e., I've scripted other clients under contract and am not listing those here.

I have scripts for Unigram, the Windows 10 Telegram client that is most accessible. The app comes from the Windows Store; the scripts come from https://www.dlee.org/unigram/

In fact, my use of Unigram includes hosting my project update announcement channel there, along with a paired discussion group for the things I release. See my contact page for current details: https://www.dlee.org/contact/

A while ago, I did a bit of Discord scripting for a couple of folks; but those are surely pretty out of date by now. I'm told that Discord text chatting is still pretty accessible though.

I have fairly comprehensive scripts for Slack at https://www.dlee.org/slack/ and some very soon to be significantly updated scripts for Microsoft Teams, which will replace Skype For Business (SFB), at
https://www.dlee.org/teams/

Both of those are more for the professional arena I think, but I think they can be used outside of that environment.
I am not listing my SFB scripts here, though I have three different sets of those for different SFB versions, because as I said, Teams will be replacing SFB. Also, SFB is exclusively for professional settings as far as I know.

Of course there's also Zoom, which is probably the most popular of the platforms now for voice. It also supports text chatting, and scripts for that one are included in JAWS 2020 and also are available from Bryan Hartgen.

Then we have TeamTalk and TeamSpeak, which I scripted as well: https://www.dlee.org/teamtalk/ and https://www.dlee.org/teamspeak/

Those are also more known for voice but do support texting. TeamSpeak will at some point move to a new structure that has global text chat support much like Discord, but the date for that has remained uncertain for quite some
months by now.

And I guess I will complete my list with that old but amazingly still kickin' client known as Zello. I still have scripts for that one at https://www.dlee.org/zello/ though I rarely work on that one because I long ago got
tired of wrestling with bugs in the Windows client. Still, the platform survives and gets used, especially in emergency settings from all I hear, though again, more for voice than for text I think.

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 03:09:30PM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Even worse then those things is that the hotkey Control+Insert+Y to move to
the list of chat messages is not working anymore, sometimes after opening
Skype nothing happends when pressing Shift+Tab or Tab for moving there, and
this for several minutes, also sometimes Skype appears as locked for several
minutes when pressing Alt+1, so if somebody sends me a message, I am not
able to read that message immediately until Skype starts working well.
This happends when using latest Skype with your scripts under Windows 7.
Under Windows 10 there are many more other bad things that appear in many
other applications, so passing to Windows 10 is not a solution.
You tested more text and voice chatting apps. Do you know if there is one
that's better accessible for the blind and easier to use than Skype?

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:09 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype issues that I see, response to several
messages on this list today


Let me address some claims I've seen, today on this list and elsewhere
over time, about Skype for Windows, and some of my own claims besides:

Claim 1: Skype online status is sometimes wrong.

True. In the past few weeks, I've seen a Skype status of "Last seen days
ago" for contacts I saw less than six days earlier. To my initial alarm,
that message has for some time been widely recognized as meaning that you
are
blocked by the contact. I find this no longer to be the case; I've seen
friends and professional colleagues alike display as "Last seen days ago"
without having blocked me.

Claim 2: Skype mood text can be wrong.

True. For quite a while and through several Skype 8 versions, I've seen
the mood text for one contact stay active while I switched through chats
with several other contacts, until I happen to open a chat with another
contact
who actually has a mood text. In short, the mood text does not clear until
it is changed to a new message. I have repeatedly reported this bug to
Microsoft but have not seen any sign of it being addressed.

Claim 3: "File sent" no longer speaks after a file transfer.

Not sure about this one. I do know that "File sent" finally stopped
speaking after the sending of a chat message, but I don't send files much.
I also know that both of those messages are not likely to speak if you
split your
chat windows out from the main Skype window, because of the way the Skype
notifications work.

Claim 4: Skype UWP for Windows 10 is going away.

Mixed. Reliable indications exist that Skype UWP will become like, or
become equal to, Skype for Windows Desktop in some way. I don't know if
the Store app is going away entirely; but since it comes with Windows 10
now, I
doubt it. Those on the Windows Insider program, which I am not, can
probably say more about this one.

Claim 5: Focus sticks to the "1 star" button after a Skype-to-phone call.

Uncertain but reliably reported. If anyone else has seen this one, please
let me know. I have not seen this one on my machine, and I make a fair
number of Skype-to-phone calls; but I may have just jumped past it too
fast.

I hope this message helps clear up a few uncertainties for people.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller





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- Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}


strange happening on skype

ken lawrence
 

Hi list ken here.  For the third time in a row after signing into our radio station skype in rapid fire succession there has been a whole big bunch of missed called from the same number.  Last Wednesday there were 13 of them all at once, then Sunday there were I think 9 and today five all rapid fire.  We have a landline number that works with skype it’s as if an autodialer is trying trying and trying to call us and each time it hits a nonworking number it tries again. And when I or someone else logs in bang whole big block of missed calls.  It’s obviously telemarketers.  Blocking does no good because likely the number being used is a spoof of a nonworking number. Is there any way to stop this crap?  I have gotten telemarketers as requests. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Need help please

Steve <aa0pmail@...>
 


Re: answering a call with NVDA

Hamid
 

You can use control plus shift plus p. if you want to check all the other available native keystrokes by pressing control plus slash.

hth

On 4/5/2020 11:10 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Can you try using your web quick keys and hit b for button until you find an answer key? Ther is also a keyboard key stroke but I can't remember it at present.

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On 5 Apr 2020, at 14:06, Josephine Hirsch wrote:

How do you answer a call on Skype with NVDA?

Thanks,

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Re: answering a call with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you try using your web quick keys and hit b for button until you find an answer key? Ther is also a keyboard key stroke but I can't remember it at present.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 5 Apr 2020, at 14:06, Josephine Hirsch wrote:

How do you answer a call on Skype with NVDA?

Thanks,

Josephine


answering a call with NVDA

Josephine Hirsch
 

How do you answer a call on Skype with NVDA?

Thanks,

Josephine


Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Léonie Watson
 

I do find switching between chats is very slow. It can take around 5 to 10 seconds sometimes, and I frequently find I have to hit the button for the intended chat more than once before it does it at all.

When a chat is loaded the shortcuts for moving between the history and the message field work fine though. I use the Jaws key, control and e or y shortcuts.

On 05/04/2020 14:57, Hamid wrote:
i confirm the  slowness/sluggishness. however, the hotkeys for both moving to the history and edit field are both still working for me as of this e-mail.
I am using Skype Version 8.58.0.98 and script revision 137
On 4/5/2020 2:38 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
I can confirm that Skype can be slow to switch chats. I'm pretty sure that happens regardless of whether you run scripts, or even JAWS; but someone please prove me wrong if possible.

The hotkey for moving to message history is also not working as well as it once did, but I may be able to fix that one. I noticed it earlier this weekend but did not include it in my message because I wanted to test it
further before commenting on it.

As for Skype alternatives, here's a somewhat complete list of what I've worked with lately, in no particular order. This list includes of course only the clients and platforms I've seen and/or scripted in a non-professional
setting; i.e., I've scripted other clients under contract and am not listing those here.

I have scripts for Unigram, the Windows 10 Telegram client that is most accessible. The app comes from the Windows Store; the scripts come from https://www.dlee.org/unigram/

In fact, my use of Unigram includes hosting my project update announcement channel there, along with a paired discussion group for the things I release. See my contact page for current details: https://www.dlee.org/contact/

A while ago, I did a bit of Discord scripting for a couple of folks; but those are surely pretty out of date by now. I'm told that Discord text chatting is still pretty accessible though.

I have fairly comprehensive scripts for Slack at https://www.dlee.org/slack/ and some very soon to be significantly updated scripts for Microsoft Teams, which will replace Skype For Business (SFB), at
https://www.dlee.org/teams/

Both of those are more for the professional arena I think, but I think they can be used outside of that environment.
I am not listing my SFB scripts here, though I have three different sets of those for different SFB versions, because as I said, Teams will be replacing SFB. Also, SFB is exclusively for professional settings as far as I know.

Of course there's also Zoom, which is probably the most popular of the platforms now for voice. It also supports text chatting, and scripts for that one are included in JAWS 2020 and also are available from Bryan Hartgen.

Then we have TeamTalk and TeamSpeak, which I scripted as well: https://www.dlee.org/teamtalk/ and https://www.dlee.org/teamspeak/

Those are also more known for voice but do support texting. TeamSpeak will at some point move to a new structure that has global text chat support much like Discord, but the date for that has remained uncertain for quite some
months by now.

And I guess I will complete my list with that old but amazingly still kickin' client known as Zello. I still have scripts for that one at https://www.dlee.org/zello/ though I rarely work on that one because I long ago got
tired of wrestling with bugs in the Windows client. Still, the platform survives and gets used, especially in emergency settings from all I hear, though again, more for voice than for text I think.

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 03:09:30PM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Even worse then those things is that the hotkey Control+Insert+Y to move to
the list of chat messages is not working anymore, sometimes after opening
Skype nothing happends when pressing Shift+Tab or Tab for moving there, and
this for several minutes, also sometimes Skype appears as locked for several
minutes when pressing Alt+1, so if somebody sends me a message, I am not
able to read that message immediately until Skype starts working well.
This happends when using latest Skype with your scripts under Windows 7.
Under Windows 10 there are many more other bad things that appear in many
other applications, so passing to Windows 10 is not a solution.
You tested more text and voice chatting apps. Do you know if there is one
that's better accessible for the blind and easier to use than Skype?

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:09 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype issues that I see, response to several
messages on this list today


Let me address some claims I've seen, today on this list and elsewhere
over time, about Skype for Windows, and some of my own claims besides:

Claim 1: Skype online status is sometimes wrong.

True. In the past few weeks, I've seen a Skype status of "Last seen days
ago" for contacts I saw less than six days earlier. To my initial alarm,
that message has for some time been widely recognized as meaning that you
are
blocked by the contact. I find this no longer to be the case; I've seen
friends and professional colleagues alike display as "Last seen days ago"
without having blocked me.

Claim 2: Skype mood text can be wrong.

True. For quite a while and through several Skype 8 versions, I've seen
the mood text for one contact stay active while I switched through chats
with several other contacts, until I happen to open a chat with another
contact
who actually has a mood text. In short, the mood text does not clear until
it is changed to a new message. I have repeatedly reported this bug to
Microsoft but have not seen any sign of it being addressed.

Claim 3: "File sent" no longer speaks after a file transfer.

Not sure about this one. I do know that "File sent" finally stopped
speaking after the sending of a chat message, but I don't send files much.
I also know that both of those messages are not likely to speak if you
split your
chat windows out from the main Skype window, because of the way the Skype
notifications work.

Claim 4: Skype UWP for Windows 10 is going away.

Mixed. Reliable indications exist that Skype UWP will become like, or
become equal to, Skype for Windows Desktop in some way. I don't know if
the Store app is going away entirely; but since it comes with Windows 10
now, I
doubt it. Those on the Windows Insider program, which I am not, can
probably say more about this one.

Claim 5: Focus sticks to the "1 star" button after a Skype-to-phone call.

Uncertain but reliably reported. If anyone else has seen this one, please
let me know. I have not seen this one on my machine, and I make a fair
number of Skype-to-phone calls; but I may have just jumped past it too
fast.

I hope this message helps clear up a few uncertainties for people.

--
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Level Access             doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller



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Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Léonie Watson
 

On 04/04/2020 22:09, Doug Lee wrote:
Let me address some claims I've seen, today on this list and elsewhere over time, about Skype for Windows, and some of my own claims besides:
Claim 1: Skype online status is sometimes wrong.
True. In the past few weeks, I've seen a Skype status of "Last seen days ago" for contacts I saw less than six days earlier. To my initial alarm, that message has for some time been widely recognized as meaning that you are
blocked by the contact. I find this no longer to be the case; I've seen friends and professional colleagues alike display as "Last seen days ago" without having blocked me.
I can confirm this. I have a colleague who I message every day, and whose status frequently says he hasn't been seen for days even when we're in the middle of a chat. He uses a Mac, but whether that's relevant or not I don't know.

[...]

Claim 3: "File sent" no longer speaks after a file transfer.
Not sure about this one. I do know that "File sent" finally stopped speaking after the sending of a chat message, but I don't send files much. I also know that both of those messages are not likely to speak if you split your
chat windows out from the main Skype window, because of the way the Skype notifications work.
When I choose a file for sending Jaws says "1 file selected", when I hit enter to send it, Jaws says "File sent". I send a lot of files using Skype and this is consistent behaviour. I don't use split windows.

Claim 5: Focus sticks to the "1 star" button after a Skype-to-phone call.
Uncertain but reliably reported. If anyone else has seen this one, please let me know. I have not seen this one on my machine, and I make a fair number of Skype-to-phone calls; but I may have just jumped past it too fast.
I do too, but I usually dismiss the request for ratings. I'll pay more attention next time and post here if I find out anything useful.
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Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Michele Barbi
 

Hi there,

concerning Skype  chat I use scripts revision 137, so I use scripts command, meaning command key followed by h for going into the history tab. I did not test other commands myself, the ones mentioned on some previous messages, such as ctrl+shift+y, may come from Freedom scientific.

Another correction on point 5 of Doug original post of this thread. I noticed the strange behaviour of focus going back to one star very fast after I go out of this, but it happens after regular Skype calls, not Skype to phone ones; I don't make Skype to phone calls since a very large amount of time and my credit is now disabled.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Hamid
 

i confirm the  slowness/sluggishness. however, the hotkeys for both moving to the history and edit field are both still working for me as of this e-mail.

I am using Skype Version 8.58.0.98 and script revision 137

On 4/5/2020 2:38 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
I can confirm that Skype can be slow to switch chats. I'm pretty sure that happens regardless of whether you run scripts, or even JAWS; but someone please prove me wrong if possible.

The hotkey for moving to message history is also not working as well as it once did, but I may be able to fix that one. I noticed it earlier this weekend but did not include it in my message because I wanted to test it
further before commenting on it.

As for Skype alternatives, here's a somewhat complete list of what I've worked with lately, in no particular order. This list includes of course only the clients and platforms I've seen and/or scripted in a non-professional
setting; i.e., I've scripted other clients under contract and am not listing those here.

I have scripts for Unigram, the Windows 10 Telegram client that is most accessible. The app comes from the Windows Store; the scripts come from https://www.dlee.org/unigram/

In fact, my use of Unigram includes hosting my project update announcement channel there, along with a paired discussion group for the things I release. See my contact page for current details: https://www.dlee.org/contact/

A while ago, I did a bit of Discord scripting for a couple of folks; but those are surely pretty out of date by now. I'm told that Discord text chatting is still pretty accessible though.

I have fairly comprehensive scripts for Slack at https://www.dlee.org/slack/ and some very soon to be significantly updated scripts for Microsoft Teams, which will replace Skype For Business (SFB), at
https://www.dlee.org/teams/

Both of those are more for the professional arena I think, but I think they can be used outside of that environment.
I am not listing my SFB scripts here, though I have three different sets of those for different SFB versions, because as I said, Teams will be replacing SFB. Also, SFB is exclusively for professional settings as far as I know.

Of course there's also Zoom, which is probably the most popular of the platforms now for voice. It also supports text chatting, and scripts for that one are included in JAWS 2020 and also are available from Bryan Hartgen.

Then we have TeamTalk and TeamSpeak, which I scripted as well: https://www.dlee.org/teamtalk/ and https://www.dlee.org/teamspeak/

Those are also more known for voice but do support texting. TeamSpeak will at some point move to a new structure that has global text chat support much like Discord, but the date for that has remained uncertain for quite some
months by now.

And I guess I will complete my list with that old but amazingly still kickin' client known as Zello. I still have scripts for that one at https://www.dlee.org/zello/ though I rarely work on that one because I long ago got
tired of wrestling with bugs in the Windows client. Still, the platform survives and gets used, especially in emergency settings from all I hear, though again, more for voice than for text I think.

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 03:09:30PM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Even worse then those things is that the hotkey Control+Insert+Y to move to
the list of chat messages is not working anymore, sometimes after opening
Skype nothing happends when pressing Shift+Tab or Tab for moving there, and
this for several minutes, also sometimes Skype appears as locked for several
minutes when pressing Alt+1, so if somebody sends me a message, I am not
able to read that message immediately until Skype starts working well.
This happends when using latest Skype with your scripts under Windows 7.
Under Windows 10 there are many more other bad things that appear in many
other applications, so passing to Windows 10 is not a solution.
You tested more text and voice chatting apps. Do you know if there is one
that's better accessible for the blind and easier to use than Skype?

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:09 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype issues that I see, response to several
messages on this list today


Let me address some claims I've seen, today on this list and elsewhere
over time, about Skype for Windows, and some of my own claims besides:

Claim 1: Skype online status is sometimes wrong.

True. In the past few weeks, I've seen a Skype status of "Last seen days
ago" for contacts I saw less than six days earlier. To my initial alarm,
that message has for some time been widely recognized as meaning that you
are
blocked by the contact. I find this no longer to be the case; I've seen
friends and professional colleagues alike display as "Last seen days ago"
without having blocked me.

Claim 2: Skype mood text can be wrong.

True. For quite a while and through several Skype 8 versions, I've seen
the mood text for one contact stay active while I switched through chats
with several other contacts, until I happen to open a chat with another
contact
who actually has a mood text. In short, the mood text does not clear until
it is changed to a new message. I have repeatedly reported this bug to
Microsoft but have not seen any sign of it being addressed.

Claim 3: "File sent" no longer speaks after a file transfer.

Not sure about this one. I do know that "File sent" finally stopped
speaking after the sending of a chat message, but I don't send files much.
I also know that both of those messages are not likely to speak if you
split your
chat windows out from the main Skype window, because of the way the Skype
notifications work.

Claim 4: Skype UWP for Windows 10 is going away.

Mixed. Reliable indications exist that Skype UWP will become like, or
become equal to, Skype for Windows Desktop in some way. I don't know if
the Store app is going away entirely; but since it comes with Windows 10
now, I
doubt it. Those on the Windows Insider program, which I am not, can
probably say more about this one.

Claim 5: Focus sticks to the "1 star" button after a Skype-to-phone call.

Uncertain but reliably reported. If anyone else has seen this one, please
let me know. I have not seen this one on my machine, and I make a fair
number of Skype-to-phone calls; but I may have just jumped past it too
fast.

I hope this message helps clear up a few uncertainties for people.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller



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Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Doug Lee
 

I can confirm that Skype can be slow to switch chats. I'm pretty sure that happens regardless of whether you run scripts, or even JAWS; but someone please prove me wrong if possible.

The hotkey for moving to message history is also not working as well as it once did, but I may be able to fix that one. I noticed it earlier this weekend but did not include it in my message because I wanted to test it
further before commenting on it.

As for Skype alternatives, here's a somewhat complete list of what I've worked with lately, in no particular order. This list includes of course only the clients and platforms I've seen and/or scripted in a non-professional
setting; i.e., I've scripted other clients under contract and am not listing those here.

I have scripts for Unigram, the Windows 10 Telegram client that is most accessible. The app comes from the Windows Store; the scripts come from https://www.dlee.org/unigram/

In fact, my use of Unigram includes hosting my project update announcement channel there, along with a paired discussion group for the things I release. See my contact page for current details: https://www.dlee.org/contact/

A while ago, I did a bit of Discord scripting for a couple of folks; but those are surely pretty out of date by now. I'm told that Discord text chatting is still pretty accessible though.

I have fairly comprehensive scripts for Slack at https://www.dlee.org/slack/ and some very soon to be significantly updated scripts for Microsoft Teams, which will replace Skype For Business (SFB), at
https://www.dlee.org/teams/

Both of those are more for the professional arena I think, but I think they can be used outside of that environment.
I am not listing my SFB scripts here, though I have three different sets of those for different SFB versions, because as I said, Teams will be replacing SFB. Also, SFB is exclusively for professional settings as far as I know.

Of course there's also Zoom, which is probably the most popular of the platforms now for voice. It also supports text chatting, and scripts for that one are included in JAWS 2020 and also are available from Bryan Hartgen.

Then we have TeamTalk and TeamSpeak, which I scripted as well: https://www.dlee.org/teamtalk/ and https://www.dlee.org/teamspeak/

Those are also more known for voice but do support texting. TeamSpeak will at some point move to a new structure that has global text chat support much like Discord, but the date for that has remained uncertain for quite some
months by now.

And I guess I will complete my list with that old but amazingly still kickin' client known as Zello. I still have scripts for that one at https://www.dlee.org/zello/ though I rarely work on that one because I long ago got
tired of wrestling with bugs in the Windows client. Still, the platform survives and gets used, especially in emergency settings from all I hear, though again, more for voice than for text I think.

On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 03:09:30PM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Even worse then those things is that the hotkey Control+Insert+Y to move to
the list of chat messages is not working anymore, sometimes after opening
Skype nothing happends when pressing Shift+Tab or Tab for moving there, and
this for several minutes, also sometimes Skype appears as locked for several
minutes when pressing Alt+1, so if somebody sends me a message, I am not
able to read that message immediately until Skype starts working well.
This happends when using latest Skype with your scripts under Windows 7.
Under Windows 10 there are many more other bad things that appear in many
other applications, so passing to Windows 10 is not a solution.
You tested more text and voice chatting apps. Do you know if there is one
that's better accessible for the blind and easier to use than Skype?

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:09 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype issues that I see, response to several
messages on this list today


Let me address some claims I've seen, today on this list and elsewhere
over time, about Skype for Windows, and some of my own claims besides:

Claim 1: Skype online status is sometimes wrong.

True. In the past few weeks, I've seen a Skype status of "Last seen days
ago" for contacts I saw less than six days earlier. To my initial alarm,
that message has for some time been widely recognized as meaning that you
are
blocked by the contact. I find this no longer to be the case; I've seen
friends and professional colleagues alike display as "Last seen days ago"
without having blocked me.

Claim 2: Skype mood text can be wrong.

True. For quite a while and through several Skype 8 versions, I've seen
the mood text for one contact stay active while I switched through chats
with several other contacts, until I happen to open a chat with another
contact
who actually has a mood text. In short, the mood text does not clear until
it is changed to a new message. I have repeatedly reported this bug to
Microsoft but have not seen any sign of it being addressed.

Claim 3: "File sent" no longer speaks after a file transfer.

Not sure about this one. I do know that "File sent" finally stopped
speaking after the sending of a chat message, but I don't send files much.
I also know that both of those messages are not likely to speak if you
split your
chat windows out from the main Skype window, because of the way the Skype
notifications work.

Claim 4: Skype UWP for Windows 10 is going away.

Mixed. Reliable indications exist that Skype UWP will become like, or
become equal to, Skype for Windows Desktop in some way. I don't know if
the Store app is going away entirely; but since it comes with Windows 10
now, I
doubt it. Those on the Windows Insider program, which I am not, can
probably say more about this one.

Claim 5: Focus sticks to the "1 star" button after a Skype-to-phone call.

Uncertain but reliably reported. If anyone else has seen this one, please
let me know. I have not seen this one on my machine, and I make a fair
number of Skype-to-phone calls; but I may have just jumped past it too
fast.

I hope this message helps clear up a few uncertainties for people.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller





--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere."
- Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}


Re: Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Octavian Rasnita
 

Even worse then those things is that the hotkey Control+Insert+Y to move to the list of chat messages is not working anymore, sometimes after opening Skype nothing happends when pressing Shift+Tab or Tab for moving there, and this for several minutes, also sometimes Skype appears as locked for several minutes when pressing Alt+1, so if somebody sends me a message, I am not able to read that message immediately until Skype starts working well.
This happends when using latest Skype with your scripts under Windows 7. Under Windows 10 there are many more other bad things that appear in many other applications, so passing to Windows 10 is not a solution.
You tested more text and voice chatting apps. Do you know if there is one that's better accessible for the blind and easier to use than Skype?

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2020 12:09 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today


Let me address some claims I've seen, today on this list and elsewhere over time, about Skype for Windows, and some of my own claims besides:

Claim 1: Skype online status is sometimes wrong.

True. In the past few weeks, I've seen a Skype status of "Last seen days ago" for contacts I saw less than six days earlier. To my initial alarm, that message has for some time been widely recognized as meaning that you are
blocked by the contact. I find this no longer to be the case; I've seen friends and professional colleagues alike display as "Last seen days ago" without having blocked me.

Claim 2: Skype mood text can be wrong.

True. For quite a while and through several Skype 8 versions, I've seen the mood text for one contact stay active while I switched through chats with several other contacts, until I happen to open a chat with another contact
who actually has a mood text. In short, the mood text does not clear until it is changed to a new message. I have repeatedly reported this bug to Microsoft but have not seen any sign of it being addressed.

Claim 3: "File sent" no longer speaks after a file transfer.

Not sure about this one. I do know that "File sent" finally stopped speaking after the sending of a chat message, but I don't send files much. I also know that both of those messages are not likely to speak if you split your
chat windows out from the main Skype window, because of the way the Skype notifications work.

Claim 4: Skype UWP for Windows 10 is going away.

Mixed. Reliable indications exist that Skype UWP will become like, or become equal to, Skype for Windows Desktop in some way. I don't know if the Store app is going away entirely; but since it comes with Windows 10 now, I
doubt it. Those on the Windows Insider program, which I am not, can probably say more about this one.

Claim 5: Focus sticks to the "1 star" button after a Skype-to-phone call.

Uncertain but reliably reported. If anyone else has seen this one, please let me know. I have not seen this one on my machine, and I make a fair number of Skype-to-phone calls; but I may have just jumped past it too fast.

I hope this message helps clear up a few uncertainties for people.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller


Skype issues that I see, response to several messages on this list today

Doug Lee
 

Let me address some claims I've seen, today on this list and elsewhere over time, about Skype for Windows, and some of my own claims besides:

Claim 1: Skype online status is sometimes wrong.

True. In the past few weeks, I've seen a Skype status of "Last seen days ago" for contacts I saw less than six days earlier. To my initial alarm, that message has for some time been widely recognized as meaning that you are
blocked by the contact. I find this no longer to be the case; I've seen friends and professional colleagues alike display as "Last seen days ago" without having blocked me.

Claim 2: Skype mood text can be wrong.

True. For quite a while and through several Skype 8 versions, I've seen the mood text for one contact stay active while I switched through chats with several other contacts, until I happen to open a chat with another contact
who actually has a mood text. In short, the mood text does not clear until it is changed to a new message. I have repeatedly reported this bug to Microsoft but have not seen any sign of it being addressed.

Claim 3: "File sent" no longer speaks after a file transfer.

Not sure about this one. I do know that "File sent" finally stopped speaking after the sending of a chat message, but I don't send files much. I also know that both of those messages are not likely to speak if you split your
chat windows out from the main Skype window, because of the way the Skype notifications work.

Claim 4: Skype UWP for Windows 10 is going away.

Mixed. Reliable indications exist that Skype UWP will become like, or become equal to, Skype for Windows Desktop in some way. I don't know if the Store app is going away entirely; but since it comes with Windows 10 now, I
doubt it. Those on the Windows Insider program, which I am not, can probably say more about this one.

Claim 5: Focus sticks to the "1 star" button after a Skype-to-phone call.

Uncertain but reliably reported. If anyone else has seen this one, please let me know. I have not seen this one on my machine, and I make a fair number of Skype-to-phone calls; but I may have just jumped past it too fast.

I hope this message helps clear up a few uncertainties for people.

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you
to do in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is
not in vain." --Helen Keller


Re: contact status

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep, have had that issue too. My students just have their names, not if they have ben active. One is on DND but still picks up as if he heard the call. Others say "active recently." but they are online now. Yeah, confusing.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 4 Apr 2020, at 13:27, ken lawrence via groups.io wrote:

                I just took a look at mine skype and noticed something. I see several that say only mood message it’s not saying whether they are online, or offline or away.  Going to look at active contacts filtering it that way.  Am still learning the nuts and bolts of the new skype.  I didn’t realize it was even active all the time until dan buzzed me about the radio station.  I hear skype ringing and wondered why CTRO P wasn’t working.  I had to go to action center and open it up and call him back.  Working on it.  I hope NVDA gets an add on for skype that works with the new version of NVDA when I sign into the radio station account or sign back into mine after a show I can’t get NVDA out of focus mode.  Not even tabbing away from the signin form seems to work. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Jackson
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Gary Jackson
Subject: [skypeenglish] contact status

 

Hey all,

 

 

It seems like lately skype is incorrectly showing  my contact's status.

I'm seeing mine sometimes as being offline when they are in fact right

there. Also, some have told me that mine shows me offline when I am

certainly here. Is anybody else seeing this?

 

 

Gary

 

 

 

 

 


Re: contact status

ken lawrence
 

                I just took a look at mine skype and noticed something. I see several that say only mood message it’s not saying whether they are online, or offline or away.  Going to look at active contacts filtering it that way.  Am still learning the nuts and bolts of the new skype.  I didn’t realize it was even active all the time until dan buzzed me about the radio station.  I hear skype ringing and wondered why CTRO P wasn’t working.  I had to go to action center and open it up and call him back.  Working on it.  I hope NVDA gets an add on for skype that works with the new version of NVDA when I sign into the radio station account or sign back into mine after a show I can’t get NVDA out of focus mode.  Not even tabbing away from the signin form seems to work. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Jackson
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Gary Jackson
Subject: [skypeenglish] contact status

 

Hey all,

 

 

It seems like lately skype is incorrectly showing  my contact's status.

I'm seeing mine sometimes as being offline when they are in fact right

there. Also, some have told me that mine shows me offline when I am

certainly here. Is anybody else seeing this?

 

 

Gary

 

 

 

 

 


Re: contact status

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep, all the time for me. I hate it. And it's ben happenign for months, especially during my classes.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 4 Apr 2020, at 12:05, Gary Jackson wrote:

Hey all,

It seems like lately skype is incorrectly showing  my contact's status. I'm seeing mine sometimes as being offline when they are in fact right there. Also, some have told me that mine shows me offline when I am certainly here. Is anybody else seeing this?

Gary


contact status

Gary Jackson
 

Hey all,


It seems like lately skype is incorrectly showing  my contact's status. I'm seeing mine sometimes as being offline when they are in fact right there. Also, some have told me that mine shows me offline when I am certainly here. Is anybody else seeing this?


Gary


adding new contact

Stephen Troy
 

hi guys and gals

could someone please provide the steps for adding a new contact in skype 8.58?

i'm running the latest versions of win10, jaws and doug's scripts.

many thanks in advance

steve

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