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Re: Providing translations for the Skype scripts

Doug Lee
 

This question is on topic for this list, I'm sure.

I don't have a specific recommendation on how to distribute, and I'm actually not sure what methods are
currently being used for non-English translations of my various scripts. I've always assumed that translators
are either using websites or Dropbox or a similar means of sharing.

I do have a Skype group chat for translators and I don't see a German contingent in there. If you want in,
small and largely inactive group though it is, send me your Skype username and I can add you.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 12:20:49PM -0700, Marco Zehe wrote:
Hi Doug,
this is Marco from Germany. I just got into translating some of the
scripts I use like Skype and Teams, and began to translate them into
German. I didn't find a reference to an existing German translation, so
decided to start my own.
What would be the best way to distribute said translation once done, so
that many people can benefit from it? You mention that translators
should proide their translations on their own schedule, but don't
mention if there is a recommended way to do it. Is there?
If the answer to this is out of scope for this list, feel free to
message me privately.
Thanks!
Marco

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Providing translations for the Skype scripts

Marco Zehe
 

Hi Doug,

this is Marco from Germany. I just got into translating some of the scripts I use like Skype and Teams, and began to translate them into German. I didn't find a reference to an existing German translation, so decided to start my own.

What would be the best way to distribute said translation once done, so that many people can benefit from it? You mention that translators should proide their translations on their own schedule, but don't mention if there is a recommended way to do it. Is there?

If the answer to this is out of scope for this list, feel free to message me privately.

Thanks!

Marco


Re: JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix issues in Skype 8.82

Doug Lee
 

Two things I missed in my earlier reply:

First, there is another cause of that message: If you type Alt+1 while in a split-view window (a separate chat
window) or an active call window, the field really won't be in the window; but the Alt+1 will then be sent to
Skype and will switch focus to the main Skype window.

Second, the translation for the scConvList constant must be exactly, including letter casing, the name of the
Conversations list in Skype itself.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 09:55:38AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
You will probably need to translate the scConvList constant in the XML file to avoid that message. The command
still works because it will simulate the native Alt+1 command when it can't find the field.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 03:08:17PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi Doug, thanks for the report about new revision of the Skype scripts which I
just installed, and also for the answer on the other thread about Windows
defender. The alt+1 fix that you made is actually causing a strange situation
with this command when using revision 220: even if the conversations list pops
up normally, it tells me "field not found".

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix issues in Skype 8.82

Alan Conway
 

Thanks Doug,

I just downloaded the revised scripts and installed them.

Thanks very much for all you do to keep the scripts updated!

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Doug Lee
Sent: March 27, 2022 8:15 AM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix
issues in Skype 8.82

As I mentioned in another thread on this list, Skype version 8.82 came out
on Friday or so and broke a few things in my scripts. Notable among these
was the typing indicator sound, which began playing constantly in all chat
windows. I released a temporary fix yesterday (Saturday) but now have a full
release for everyone.

Go to https://www.dlee.org/skype/#hist to read the release notes. The
download link, as usual, is on the same page. Note that this update should
only be used if you are running Skype 8.82 or later. Running this updated
script revision with an older Skype version is likely to cause a few things
not to work as expected.

One extra bit of good news: A few of you a while back reported that Alt+1
did not work to move to the Conversations list when a group chat was in
focus. This is because Alt+1 is a native Skype keystroke and it did not work
in that particular circumstance. In this revision 220 of the scripts, I
finally scripted around this so it does work in that case.

Happy Skyping.

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon


Re: JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix issues in Skype 8.82

Michele Barbi
 

Thanks for your answer Doug, I'll think about that string translation...

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix issues in Skype 8.82

Doug Lee
 

You will probably need to translate the scConvList constant in the XML file to avoid that message. The command
still works because it will simulate the native Alt+1 command when it can't find the field.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 03:08:17PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi Doug, thanks for the report about new revision of the Skype scripts which I
just installed, and also for the answer on the other thread about Windows
defender. The alt+1 fix that you made is actually causing a strange situation
with this command when using revision 220: even if the conversations list pops
up normally, it tells me "field not found".

Bye!

Barbuz

--
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"I forgot, because I wanted to forget, except I don't remember
forgetting." --Sarah Alawami


Re: JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix issues in Skype 8.82

Kimmie
 

Oh well here was me blaming my computer for that constant typing noise.
Thanks Doug.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io [mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 1:15 AM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix
issues
in Skype 8.82

As I mentioned in another thread on this list, Skype version 8.82 came out
on
Friday or so and broke a few
things in my scripts. Notable among these was the typing indicator sound,
which began playing constantly in
all chat windows. I released a temporary fix yesterday (Saturday) but now
have a full release for everyone.

Go to https://www.dlee.org/skype/#hist to read the release notes. The
download link, as usual, is on the same
page. Note that this update should only be used if you are running Skype
8.82 or later. Running this updated
script revision with an older Skype version is likely to cause a few
things not
to work as expected.

One extra bit of good news: A few of you a while back reported that Alt+1
did not work to move to the
Conversations list when a group chat was in focus. This is because Alt+1
is a
native Skype keystroke and it
did not work in that particular circumstance. In this revision 220 of the
scripts,
I finally scripted around
this so it does work in that case.

Happy Skyping.

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon



Re: JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix issues in Skype 8.82

Michele Barbi
 

Hi Doug, thanks for the report about new revision of the Skype scripts which I just installed, and also for the answer on the other thread about Windows defender. The alt+1 fix that you made is actually causing a strange situation with this command when using revision 220: even if the conversations list pops up normally, it tells me "field not found".

Bye!

Barbuz

--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: new version trouble

Doug Lee
 

The Windows Defender issue is common because Windows Defender keeps track of which files are known versus
unknown, and of course a brand new file will not be known right away. Every time I update scripts, even though
I keep using the same file name, the file is considered "new" by Defender because it is changed.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 12:27:07AM +0100, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi guys,

Doug, thanks for that, I downloaded revision 217from the link you gave us. I
had once again the issue about Windows Defender smart screen when launching
the file, so I needed to press further information link and then Run anyway
button.

Sarah, I am actually not sure. I always use split view mode and I had issues
also in the past where typing indicators weren't working properly, or should I
say weren't working at all, but I don't know if this has to do with the Skype
language which is italian or with split view. That is why I asked Gary if he
enabled it or not.

Bye!

Barbuz

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
"There are no guarantees. From a standpoint of fear, none are
strong enough. From a standpoint of love, none are necessary."
- from Emmanuel's Book II


JAWS Skype script revision 220 released, to fix issues in Skype 8.82

Doug Lee
 

As I mentioned in another thread on this list, Skype version 8.82 came out on Friday or so and broke a few
things in my scripts. Notable among these was the typing indicator sound, which began playing constantly in
all chat windows. I released a temporary fix yesterday (Saturday) but now have a full release for everyone.

Go to https://www.dlee.org/skype/#hist to read the release notes. The download link, as usual, is on the same
page. Note that this update should only be used if you are running Skype 8.82 or later. Running this updated
script revision with an older Skype version is likely to cause a few things not to work as expected.

One extra bit of good news: A few of you a while back reported that Alt+1 did not work to move to the
Conversations list when a group chat was in focus. This is because Alt+1 is a native Skype keystroke and it
did not work in that particular circumstance. In this revision 220 of the scripts, I finally scripted around
this so it does work in that case.

Happy Skyping.

--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled.
--anon


Re: new version trouble

Tali Sarnetzky
 

Hi everyone.

The constant typing thing can be fixed in the verbosity dialog. Insert
plus V, then down to Typing and uncheck the checkbox.

On 3/27/22, Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...> wrote:
Gary, it is actually not documented yet, but in the meantime go here:
https://www.dlee.org/updates/jfw_skype.exe

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: new version trouble

Michele Barbi
 

Gary, it is actually not documented yet, but in the meantime go here: https://www.dlee.org/updates/jfw_skype.exe

Bye!

Barbuz

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Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: new version trouble

Gary Jackson
 

I've always used split view and never had that problem until now. Did  somebody say there is a revision 217 of Doug's scripts? I'm only getting revision 212.


Gary

On 3/26/2022 6:27 PM, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi guys,

Doug, thanks for that, I downloaded revision 217from the link you gave us. I had once again the issue about Windows Defender smart screen when launching the file, so I needed to press further information link and then Run anyway button.

Sarah, I am actually not sure. I always use split view mode and I had issues also in the past where typing indicators weren't working properly, or should I say weren't working at all, but I don't know if this has to do with the Skype language which is italian or with split view. That is why I asked Gary if he enabled it or not.

Bye!

Barbuz


Re: new version trouble

Michele Barbi
 

Hi guys,

Doug, thanks for that, I downloaded revision 217from the link you gave us. I had once again the issue about Windows Defender smart screen when launching the file, so I needed to press further information link and then Run anyway button.

Sarah, I am actually not sure. I always use split view mode and I had issues also in the past where typing indicators weren't working properly, or should I say weren't working at all, but I don't know if this has to do with the Skype language which is italian or with split view. That is why I asked Gary if he enabled it or not.

Bye!

Barbuz

--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: new version trouble

Doug Lee
 

This update came out yesterday as far as I can tell. I fixed the Skype typing issue and another issue or two
last night but don't have documentation updated yet, and so had not put out a release. For emergency update in
the mean time, people can grab the installer as it evolves from https://www.dlee.org/updates/jfw_skype.exe

On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 01:22:41PM -0500, Gary Jackson wrote:
hello all,


Just got a skype update to,  version 8.82.0.404. I've installed the latest
scripts from Doug Lee's sight. One thing, typing sound is always there. I've
quit and restarted it as well as restarted the computer. also it repeats
history just by alt tabbing into a conversation window. Any ideas?


Gary

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the battle."
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Re: new version trouble

Sarah k Alawami
 

Would split view cause the type sound to be repeated, if I understand the issue? If not, please correct me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Jackson
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 11:38 AM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] new version trouble

Hi Michelle,


didn't get it from the skype sight. It just automatically installed when skype started.


Gary



On 3/26/2022 1:35 PM, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi Gary, are you sure this is not 403? I have this version for Windows
desktop and I don't see the update. Did you download on the Microsoft
store instead?

Also, are you using default view mode without split view?

Bye!

Barbuz


Re: new version trouble

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm using nvda, but can you reload the scripts in jaws? I remember you used to be able to do so. If you can, try that in skype for its scripts. I have never had the typer sound continue when I'm not in a chat before.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Jackson
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 11:23 AM
To: Gary Jackson <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Subject: [skypeenglish] new version trouble

hello all,


Just got a skype update to, version 8.82.0.404. I've installed the latest scripts from Doug Lee's sight. One thing, typing sound is always there. I've quit and restarted it as well as restarted the computer.
also it repeats history just by alt tabbing into a conversation window.
Any ideas?


Gary


Re: new version trouble

Gary Jackson
 

Hi Michelle,


didn't get it from the skype sight. It just automatically installed when skype started.


Gary

On 3/26/2022 1:35 PM, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi Gary, are you sure this is not 403? I have this version for Windows desktop and I don't see the update. Did you download on the Microsoft store instead?

Also, are you using default view mode without split view?

Bye!

Barbuz


Re: new version trouble

Michele Barbi
 

Hi Gary, are you sure this is not 403? I have this version for Windows desktop and I don't see the update. Did you download on the Microsoft store instead?

Also, are you using default view mode without split view?

Bye!

Barbuz

--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


new version trouble

Gary Jackson
 

hello all,


Just got a skype update to,  version 8.82.0.404. I've installed the latest scripts from Doug Lee's sight. One thing, typing sound is always there. I've quit and restarted it as well as restarted the computer. also it repeats history just by alt tabbing into a conversation window. Any ideas?


Gary