When I launched Skype 8.51.0.92 this morning, I heard that I had one notification. I dutifully wandered off to the Notifications tab and found a notification that said "Introducing Split View Mode," or similar. I take this to
mean that split-view mode is officially present and supported now.

I briefly tested my latest Skype 8 scripts (revision 129) against this, and found things working normally. The messages like "Message sent" may still not speak though, because there is no list of accessibility messages in
individual chat windows like there is in the main Skype window.

While I'm at it... In case I only said this on Twitter and not on this list: If you marvel that I just said my latest scripts are revision 129 while my website clearly boasts revision 130, never fear; they are the same thing. I
neglected to update the revision number in my final release, but the script code is correct.

Is it possible to have the latest version of Skype 8 appear on my task bar automatically upon booting up? If so, how do I set it to do that?

Thx

Steve

 

From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf of Mike DeZinno
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 10:51 PM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] subscription to Skype

I may not know all there is to know about how Skype charges and refunds, but in the past when I was paying them for a monthly calling plan if I'm not mistaken the receipt, they sent me each month said there were no refunds.
I hope I'm wrong in your case.

Good luck dealing with them,
Mike in SC
At 07:49 PM 8/31/2019, you wrote:
Hello all,?

Once you cancel your Skype subscription, how long does it take for Skype to refund you?

Hello all,


Once you cancelling your Skype suscrption, how long does it for Skype refund you once your Skype suscription is cancelled?

Thanks,

Josephine

Hello all,

Once you cancelling your Skype suscrption, how long does it for Skype refund you once your Skype suscription is cancelled?

Thanks,

Josephine

Yes; browser download cache perhaps.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:34:35AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Thanks Doug for the prompt response. I am sure it says 121. I retried 3 times
and I keep getting the same one. Could it be something  on my side?

On 8/31/2019 2:31 AM, Doug Lee wrote:

I don't know why you would get vevision 121; the file posted on my site is updated. However, due to my haste at releasing, the recorded revision number in the installer and for Insert+Q for this revison says revision 129
instead of 130. So if you're hearing 129, you still have the right stuff.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:20:47AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I
keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you
mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:

In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.

I don't know why you would get vevision 121; the file posted on my site is updated. However, due to my haste at releasing, the recorded revision number in the installer and for Insert+Q for this revison says revision 129
instead of 130. So if you're hearing 129, you still have the right stuff.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:20:47AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I
keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you
mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:

In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.

I don't know why you would get vevision 121; the file posted on my site is updated. However, due to my haste at releasing, the recorded revision number in the installer and for Insert+Q for this revison says revision 129
instead of 130. So if you're hearing 129, you still have the right stuff.

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 01:20:47AM +0100, Hamid wrote:
Doug,

Thank you for your continuous  efforts. I downloaded the scripts 3 times and I
keep ending up with  the same 121 revision instead of the 130 revision you
mentioned above. Am I missing something?

On 8/31/2019 12:03 AM, Doug Lee wrote:

In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.

In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.

In the Q&A message I posted earlier today, also quoted below, I mentioned that I needed to address the problem of user changes to the Command key landing in the wrong file. I have now done this, and posted revision 130 at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ for anyone needing this functionality.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
This is my attempt to address several questions and concerns expressed both on and off this list regarding Skype 8.51 and/or my scripts for it. This message covers Skype 8.51, the JAWS scripts for Skype 8, and SLMan, the Script Load Manager needed by users of the Skype 8 scripts with older JAWS versions. This message does not address NVDA or my Skype add-on; I hope to do that in a separate message. This message is in Q&A format.

Q: Why don't I see the Split View Mode option in Skype 8.51?

A: There are a few possible reasons:

1. The option is under a "More Options" button on the main screen. It is not found in the menus available from any menu bar.

2. The option's presence or absence appears to be governed by code managed centrally by Microsoft without requiring an update to the Skype application installed on your computer. This is my guess, based on my observations, and is thus subject to correction; however, I have heard multiple reports of the option appearing and possibly disappearing without a Skype update installation.

Q: I'm hearing that Microsoft will or did pull back the Split Screen Mode option. Is this true?

A: I have no solid confirmation one way or the other except for what has been posted on this list. However, as of this writing (August 30, 2019), the option remains active in my personal Skype 8 installation. While writing this message, I upgraded from 8.51.0.86 to 8.51.0.92; and the Split View Mode option is still present. I take this to mean that the option is either staying for now or has already been removed and put back by this time. Again though, I am guessing.

Q: Why does JAWS no longer say things like "Message sent," "so and so is typing," "Message has been edited," etc.?

A: This happens if you use Split View Mode. These messages are posted to the main Skype window. JAWS announces such messages, which are "live region" messages, when they are posted to the window in focus. However, when you use Split View Mode, the window in focus is a chat and not the main Skype window where the messages are sent. Scripting might be able to rectify this issue for JAWS users, but I'm betting Microsoft fixes it for everyone in some way. Guessing again though; this is not based on any Microsoft feedback.

Q: Do I need to use the Script Load Manager, SLMan?

A: Only if you are using a JAWS version that is older than the last August update to JAWS 2019. The symptom of needing SLMan when you don't have it is that JAWS' Insert+Q command will say that Chrome settings instead of Skype 8 settings are loaded when you type that command from inside a Skype window.

Q: Can I still change the Skype Command key for the scripts if I have to use SLMan?

A: The short answer is Yes. The longer answer is Yes but you might have to edit a file yourself rather than using the normal command for this purpose, which is the sequence [ JAWSKey+C. I still need to address this issue.

Q: How do I manually set a Skype Command key?

A: Edit skypeelectron.jcf in your JAWS user folder. In that file, add or edit the following section:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=Shift+Enter

Of course, replace Shift+Enter with what you prefer.

At this writing, if you find a slman.jcf file in your JAWS user folder, it should be sufficient simply to add the contents of that file to the end of your skypeelectron.jcf, or replace the [MKCSOptions] section in it if it exists, with the contents of slman.jcf; then delete slman.jcf. This slman.jcf creation is the issue I need to address when I can.

Hello Mostafa and list, it's a bit of time that I don't use it so I don't know how it works with latest Skype version, nor I know how long will it work since I don't think it's updated since plenty of time. There is though an add-on created by Doug Lee, go to www.dlee.org/skype/electron then search for the NVDA add-on link, you should directly download the corresponding file.

Bye!

Barbuz

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