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Re: skype 8 split view
inamuddin khan
Dear friend, according to Microsoft, they have pulled split view for the sake of more improvement, that’s why I recommend you to wait for the next version of Skype. If you are more excited to see split view then and there, then you can use preview of Skype which is definetly has split view. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
From: Joseph Weakland
so how can i get the desktop version of skype that has the split view or will that come down the pike in next skype update?
On 8/23/2019 12:15 PM, Doug Lee wrote: > The "message sent" notification is sent to a list control in the main Skype window. In normal view, that is in focus; so JAWS speaks it. I'm betting that JAWS ignores it in split view because it is usually a bad idea to speak > live updates in windows that are not in focus. > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:10:54AM -0500, Gary Jackson wrote: > When not in split view I have always heard message sent after pressing enter. > Now, in split?? view I no longer get a confirmation message. Any ideas? Also, > where can I find the call sound when we recieve a message to reduce it's > volume? It's very loud. > > > Gary > > > > > > -- Joseph Weakland josephweakland@... sent from my windows 10 pc
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Re: skype 8 split view
so how can i get the desktop version of skype that has the split view or will that come down the pike in next skype update?
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On 8/23/2019 12:15 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
The "message sent" notification is sent to a list control in the main Skype window. In normal view, that is in focus; so JAWS speaks it. I'm betting that JAWS ignores it in split view because it is usually a bad idea to speak --
Joseph Weakland josephweakland@att.net sent from my windows 10 pc
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Re: skype 8 split view
inamuddin khan
This problem has nothing to do with JAWS script. It is because of its own design. Microsoft may fix it in near future if you people continue to ask to them. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
From: Gary Jackson
When not in split view I have always heard message sent after pressing enter. Now, in split view I no longer get a confirmation message. Any ideas? Also, where can I find the call sound when we recieve a message to reduce it's volume? It's very loud.
Gary
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Re: skype 8 split view
Doug Lee
The "message sent" notification is sent to a list control in the main Skype window. In normal view, that is in focus; so JAWS speaks it. I'm betting that JAWS ignores it in split view because it is usually a bad idea to speak
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live updates in windows that are not in focus.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:10:54AM -0500, Gary Jackson wrote:
When not in split view I have always heard message sent after pressing enter. Now, in split view I no longer get a confirmation message. Any ideas? Also, where can I find the call sound when we recieve a message to reduce it's volume? It's very loud. Gary -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "A mailing list is a crude but effective cross between a chain letter and a shouting match." -Andrew Kantor
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skype 8 split view
Gary Jackson <gljackson@...>
When not in split view I have always heard message sent after pressing enter. Now, in split view I no longer get a confirmation message. Any ideas? Also, where can I find the call sound when we recieve a message to reduce it's volume? It's very loud.
Gary
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Skype 8 scripts updated, with new way to load them in old JAWS versions
Doug Lee
I have released an update to the Skype 8 scripts to make JAWS name the split-view chat windows including online status and/or mood text, as is already done for conversations displayed inside the main window. These are at
https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ as usual. If you are running the August JAWS 2019 update, you will only need the above scripts for Skype 8.51 support. If you are running any other JAWS version supported, 17.0 through pre-August JAWS 2019 versions, read on. For various reasons, I have split out the system for loading Skype 8 scripts in older JAWS versions into a new and separate set of scripts, which I am calling Script Load Manager, or SLMan. These are at https://www.dlee.org/slman/ If you want further information on this system and why I created it, listen to my audio explanation, which is about five minutes long, at https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype_slman.mp3 The basic process to run, for anyone upgrading Skype scripts, is this: 1. Install the updated Skype scripts, which will first uninstall your current Skype scripts as usual. 2. Install the Script Load Manager. That combination should make the Skype scripts load properly into any JAWS version 17.0 through current 2019. This finally even includes making JAWSKey+v load the Quick Settings for Skype rather than loading the Quick Settings for Chrome. Warnings: The Script Load Manager is a pretty new idea, though I built it on ideas I had already been using for Skype and other apps. As was already true for the Skype 8 scripts, there remains the possibility that the Script Load Manager will cause side effects in other environments. In particular, any website or web application that uses a URL like file:///Index.html or about:blank for the focused page may cause odd behavior, especially in a non-Chrome browser. I would appreciate notification of any such occasions found by users out there, as I don't know a quick way to test all cases here. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it."--Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts
Jerry Pryde
I have that also. I'd recommend waiting for any improvements. Meanwhile, it works for me so far.
On 2019-08-23 8:48 a.m., inam din
wrote:
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Re: Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts
When I contacted to Skype support, they said to me that the developers has removed split view for improving it. As far as myself is concern, I’m using Skype 8.51.0.86 and I have split view. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 5:12:16 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts Hello guys, as I mentioned on the other day, a friend of mine still did not see it, I don't know if today he does though. I think they're gradually rolling out this feature. Bye! Barbuz
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Re: Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts
Michele Barbi
Hello guys, as I mentioned on the other day, a friend of mine still did not see it, I don't know if today he does though. I think they're gradually rolling out this feature. Bye! Barbuz
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Re: Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts
Jerry Pryde
I've got the latest Skype version.
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Just tab to where it says More Options button, click on that. Scroll down and you should see where it says Enable Split screen, and click on that.
On 2019-08-23 7:09 a.m., Andre Polykanine wrote:
Hi Jerry,
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Re: Contact notifications
Andre Polykanine
Hi Larry,
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Please try to press Alt+1 to get to the conversations list, then arrow down until you find the conversation with her. Then press Enter on it, you'll be placed into the chat window. Tab around and find the Accept button. That should be it. -- With best regards from Ukraine, Andre Skype: menelion_elensule Twitter (English only): @AndrePolykanine
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From: Larry Gassman <larrygassman@roadrunner.com> To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Date created: , 3:50:02 PM Subject: [skypeenglish] Contact notifications Hi all, I received a notification for someone we will interview for a future FSCast. When I opened skype it said: you have one notification but that quickly changed to none. I do not see her request to be added to my skype contacts. She found me through my e-mail address. How do I finder and approve her request? Thank you. Larry Gassman
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Re: Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts
Andre Polykanine
Hi Jerry,
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Sorry, but I can't find it even with sighted help. Could you please give me a hint? Thanks. -- With best regards from Ukraine, Andre Skype: menelion_elensule Twitter (English only): @AndrePolykanine
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From: Jerry Pryde <jpryde1@cogeco.ca> To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Date created: , 10:34:07 PM Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts Yep. Just found it a few minutes ago, right in More Options; Enable Split View. Curiosity kicked in, and there it was. On 2019-08-21 3:12 p.m., Marius Swart wrote: Doug, split view mode is available in the Skype update I downloaded just a
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Re: Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and theSkype8 JAWS scripts
inamuddin khan
Dear friends, finally with the help of Doug Lee, I did the following. Actually the file called (Confignames.ini) has two lines above (Domains) and down (domain) Above the line it was written: (Skype:8=skype electron) I changed that line: (about:blank=Skypeelectron) And down the line of (Domains) It was written: (index.html=Skypeelectron) I removed (.html) And it was: (index=Skypeelectron) I’m very happy to let you know that even after enabled split view, it is working fine in both windows chat window and main Skype windows as well. The only remaining thing is insert+V which is not saying Skype quick setting. HTH
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
From: Doug Lee
In the line Index=skypeelectron, there needs to be no spaces. "skypeelectron" is written as one word. That will probably make things work as intended.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 03:01:00PM +0000, inam din wrote: The matter of fact is that I have removed (.html) and it was:
Index=skype electron
But it was having two problems.
1.
It doesn’t work in separate chat meaning that if I’m in a chat window, it doesn’t work.
2.
If I press insirt+v it says chrome setting rather than Skype quick setting.
Due to these two things, I was forced to remove JAWS script for Skype electron.
Another thing I’d like to point out  is that this problem occurs when I enable split view in case of disable split view, it is working fine but insert+V problem is there either if I use enable split view or disable split view.
At the end I was having 2 options either I leave using split view or remove JAWS script for Skype electron.
I chose the second option because I like using split view very much and I was waiting for that feature since   ages.
I tried my level best to rub any kind of misunderstanding.
I also hope that my detailed explanation will help Doug Lee to make JAWS script for Skype electron which  could be  used in all JAWS versions   specially in JAWS 2018.
At The end, all I can say is that for the sake of JAWS script for skype, my last hope since 2010 is Doug Lee.
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arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement.
At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
outlook:
inam092@...
yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...
AOL:
charlsdarwin1969@...
Join me with my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
See me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Mobile phone:
+92-334-3348409
Google voice:
+1-631-5335683
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From: [1]Michele Barbi Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
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Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
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From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Doug Lee <dgl@...> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 5:27:59 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts Â
Not sure why you say it's bad news. I'm saying most things can work under older JAWS versions if you update ConfigNames.ini as I described. The one thing I'm not sure I can address for older JAWS versions is the JAWSKey+V issue. My tests this morning find that the Index=skypeelectron trick in ConfigNames.ini alsow works in JAWS 2018, as does about:blank=skypeelectron for separate chat windows. For JAWS 18.0 and 17.0, use Index.html=skypeelectron and about=skypeelectron instead. I must again say though, these tricks may well interfere with other web applications, because other web apps may also use such plain domain names for their content. JAWS is being updated to handle problems like this, and sometimes it is just not possible for a script to fix something in a JAWS version that is not written to handle it. :-) On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:29:41AM +0500, inamuddin khan wrote:   I’m very sorry to let you know that this is a very bad news specially   for those of us who cannot upgrade from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 2019.   As far as myself is concern, I became very much disappointed and at the   end I have uninstalled JAWS script for Skype electron version 121.   I therefore would like to request Doug Lee to sort something out for   those who cannot upgrade JAWS 2019.   I sincerely hope that my request will be considered as earliest manner.   With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:   Charlsdarwin1   arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement.   At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button.   You can contact me via gmail:   inamuddin09@...   outlook:   inam092@...   yahoo:   inamuddin2010@...   AOL:   charlsdarwin1969@...   Join me with my Skype ID:   charlsdarwin1   See me on facebook:   [3]www.facebook.com/inamuddin786   Follow me on my twitter:   [4]www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1   Mobile phone:   +92-334-3348409   Google voice:   +1-631-5335683   From: [1]Michele Barbi   Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM   To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io   Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS   ScriptFor Skype Electron   Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am   using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand.   Don't know if it makes any difference,   From: [3]Doug Lee   Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 6:47 AM   To: [4]main@skypeenglish.groups.io   Subject: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the   Skype8 JAWS scripts   I now have Skype 8.51.0.86 running in Split View mode. I do not have   the latest August update to JAWS 2019 installed yet. This message will   provide information on using this new mode with my existing Skype 8   scripts, as well as   some general information on how the new view works.   First, for those who find that Insert+Q says Chrome scripts are loaded   rather than Skype scripts when a chat window is in focus:   The following early suggestions are experimental and based on my brief   experiments this evening and on   comments I have received from various folks.   You can try adding the following line to the [Domains] section of   ConfigNames.ini in the JAWS user folder; but see notes below:   [Domains]   about:blank=skypeelectron   Doing this may cause the Skype 8 scripts to load in other places   though, mostly in other web apps. This modification should not be   required in JAWS 2019 as of the August update.   Then, some general information about how this view works:   When Split View mode is enabled, pressing Enter on a conversation list   entry in the main Skype window opens the chat in a new window. Alt+Tab   then works to switch among chats and the main Skype window. However, a   new incoming   chat message will not open a new window; that will appear at the top of   the Conversation list. You just have to go there to open the window for   it yourself.   Hotkeys provided by Skype itself for jumping around in a conversation   work in separate windows as they do in the normal view; e.g.,   Alt+Shift+e for moving to the Edit box.   Commands like Alt+1 for conversation list and Alt+2 for contact list   only work in the Skype main window, not in chat windows. One way to   jump to the main window is to Tab a few times from a conversation Edit   box and press "Open   recent chats."   The rest of this message only applies to those for whom Insert+Q says   that the Skype scripts are loaded. This assumes you are running   revision 121 of my scripts.   The command sequences for moving to the chat edit and chat history   areas should work in Split View mode just as in the normal view; e.g.,   [ e to jump to the edit box.   Typing indicators and announcements should also work as expected in   split-view mode already, including the sequence [ t for announcing who   is currently typing.   Insert+T will not say who is online, away, etc., or read mood text in a   chat window, until I release a script update.   If you had to use the Index=skypeelectron and/or   about:blank=skypeelectron tricks to make the scripts load, chances are   that JAWSKey+v will bring up JAWS Quick Settings for Chrome rather than   Quick Settings for the Skype   scripts. This is because of the way JAWS handles loading scripts for   websites, as opposed to loading by application name. At this time, I   suspect there is no easy way to fix that issue except by updating to   the JAWS 2019 August   release.   --   Doug Lee                dgl@...   [5]http://www.dlee.org   Level Access            doug.lee@...   [6]http://www.LevelAccess.com   "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them   to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum   References   1. [7]mailto:barbi.michele@...   2. [8]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io   3. [9]mailto:dgl@...   4. [10]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io   5. [11]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165   6. [12]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts   7. [13]mailto:inamuddin09@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts   8. [14]https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874   9. [15]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post  10. [16]http://www.dlee.org/skype/  11. [17]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874  12. [18]mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io  13. [19]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee                dgl@...               [20]http://www.dlee.org Level Access            doug.lee@...   [21]http://www.LevelAccess.com "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither leisure nor science from the height of society."
References
1. mailto:barbi.michele@... 2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 3. http://www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 4. http://www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 5. http://www.dlee.org/ 6. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 7. mailto:barbi.michele@... 8. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 9. mailto:dgl@... 10. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 11. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165 12. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: 13. mailto:inamuddin09@...?subject=Private: 14. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 15. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 16. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 17. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 18. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 19. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged 20. http://www.dlee.org/ 21. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 22. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4167 23. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 24. mailto:inam092@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 25. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 26. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 27. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 28. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 29. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 30. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged
-- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com "There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." Ronald Reagan?
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Re: Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts
Space is my typing mistake in my file it was not having any kind of space it is: Index=skypeelectron With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Doug Lee <dgl@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:08:48 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts In the line Index=skypeelectron, there needs to be no spaces. "skypeelectron" is written as one word. That will probably make things work as intended.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 03:01:00PM +0000, inam din wrote: The matter of fact is that I have removed (.html) and it was: Index=skype electron But it was having two problems. 1. It doesn’t work in separate chat meaning that if I’m in a chat window, it doesn’t work. 2. If I press insirt+v it says chrome setting rather than Skype quick setting. Due to these two things, I was forced to remove JAWS script for Skype electron. Another thing I’d like to point out  is that this problem occurs when I enable split view in case of disable split view, it is working fine but insert+V problem is there either if I use enable split view or disable split view. At the end I was having 2 options either I leave using split view or remove JAWS script for Skype electron. I chose the second option because I like using split view very much and I was waiting for that feature since   ages. I tried my level best to rub any kind of misunderstanding. I also hope that my detailed explanation will help Doug Lee to make JAWS script for Skype electron which  could be  used in all JAWS versions   specially in JAWS 2018. At The end, all I can say is that for the sake of JAWS script for skype, my last hope since 2010 is Doug Lee.   arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683   From: [1]Michele Barbi Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron  Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,  __________________________________________________________________ From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Doug Lee <dgl@...> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 5:27:59 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts  Not sure why you say it's bad news. I'm saying most things can work under older JAWS versions if you update ConfigNames.ini as I described. The one thing I'm not sure I can address for older JAWS versions is the JAWSKey+V issue. My tests this morning find that the Index=skypeelectron trick in ConfigNames.ini alsow works in JAWS 2018, as does about:blank=skypeelectron for separate chat windows. For JAWS 18.0 and 17.0, use Index.html=skypeelectron and about=skypeelectron instead. I must again say though, these tricks may well interfere with other web applications, because other web apps may also use such plain domain names for their content. JAWS is being updated to handle problems like this, and sometimes it is just not possible for a script to fix something in a JAWS version that is not written to handle it. :-) On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:29:41AM +0500, inamuddin khan wrote:   I’m very sorry to let you know that this is a very bad news specially   for those of us who cannot upgrade from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 2019.   As far as myself is concern, I became very much disappointed and at the   end I have uninstalled JAWS script for Skype electron version 121.   I therefore would like to request Doug Lee to sort something out for   those who cannot upgrade JAWS 2019.   I sincerely hope that my request will be considered as earliest manner.   With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:   Charlsdarwin1   arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement.   At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button.   You can contact me via gmail:   inamuddin09@...   outlook:   inam092@...   yahoo:   inamuddin2010@...   AOL:   charlsdarwin1969@...   Join me with my Skype ID:   charlsdarwin1   See me on facebook:   [3]www.facebook.com/inamuddin786   Follow me on my twitter:   [4]www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1   Mobile phone:   +92-334-3348409   Google voice:   +1-631-5335683   From: [1]Michele Barbi   Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM   To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io   Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS   ScriptFor Skype Electron   Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am   using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand.   Don't know if it makes any difference,   From: [3]Doug Lee   Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 6:47 AM   To: [4]main@skypeenglish.groups.io   Subject: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the   Skype8 JAWS scripts   I now have Skype 8.51.0.86 running in Split View mode. I do not have   the latest August update to JAWS 2019 installed yet. This message will   provide information on using this new mode with my existing Skype 8   scripts, as well as   some general information on how the new view works.   First, for those who find that Insert+Q says Chrome scripts are loaded   rather than Skype scripts when a chat window is in focus:   The following early suggestions are experimental and based on my brief   experiments this evening and on   comments I have received from various folks.   You can try adding the following line to the [Domains] section of   ConfigNames.ini in the JAWS user folder; but see notes below:   [Domains]   about:blank=skypeelectron   Doing this may cause the Skype 8 scripts to load in other places   though, mostly in other web apps. This modification should not be   required in JAWS 2019 as of the August update.   Then, some general information about how this view works:   When Split View mode is enabled, pressing Enter on a conversation list   entry in the main Skype window opens the chat in a new window. Alt+Tab   then works to switch among chats and the main Skype window. However, a   new incoming   chat message will not open a new window; that will appear at the top of   the Conversation list. You just have to go there to open the window for   it yourself.   Hotkeys provided by Skype itself for jumping around in a conversation   work in separate windows as they do in the normal view; e.g.,   Alt+Shift+e for moving to the Edit box.   Commands like Alt+1 for conversation list and Alt+2 for contact list   only work in the Skype main window, not in chat windows. One way to   jump to the main window is to Tab a few times from a conversation Edit   box and press "Open   recent chats."   The rest of this message only applies to those for whom Insert+Q says   that the Skype scripts are loaded. This assumes you are running   revision 121 of my scripts.   The command sequences for moving to the chat edit and chat history   areas should work in Split View mode just as in the normal view; e.g.,   [ e to jump to the edit box.   Typing indicators and announcements should also work as expected in   split-view mode already, including the sequence [ t for announcing who   is currently typing.   Insert+T will not say who is online, away, etc., or read mood text in a   chat window, until I release a script update.   If you had to use the Index=skypeelectron and/or   about:blank=skypeelectron tricks to make the scripts load, chances are   that JAWSKey+v will bring up JAWS Quick Settings for Chrome rather than   Quick Settings for the Skype   scripts. This is because of the way JAWS handles loading scripts for   websites, as opposed to loading by application name. At this time, I   suspect there is no easy way to fix that issue except by updating to   the JAWS 2019 August   release.   --   Doug Lee                dgl@...   [5]http://www.dlee.org   Level Access            doug.lee@...   [6]http://www.LevelAccess.com   "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them   to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum   References   1. [7]mailto:barbi.michele@...   2. [8]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io   3. [9]mailto:dgl@...   4. [10]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io   5. [11]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165   6. [12]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts   7. [13]mailto:inamuddin09@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts   8. [14]https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874   9. [15]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post  10. [16]http://www.dlee.org/skype/  11. [17]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874  12. [18]mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io  13. [19]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee                dgl@...               [20]http://www.dlee.org Level Access            doug.lee@...   [21]http://www.LevelAccess.com "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither leisure nor science from the height of society." References 1. mailto:barbi.michele@... 2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 3. http://www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 4. http://www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 5. http://www.dlee.org/ 6. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 7. mailto:barbi.michele@... 8. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 9. mailto:dgl@... 10. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 11. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165 12. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: 13. mailto:inamuddin09@...?subject=Private: 14. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 15. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 16. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 17. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 18. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 19. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged 20. http://www.dlee.org/ 21. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 22. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4167 23. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 24. mailto:inam092@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 25. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 26. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 27. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 28. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 29. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 30. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com "There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." 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Re: Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts
Doug Lee
In the line Index=skypeelectron, there needs to be no spaces. "skypeelectron" is written as one word. That will probably make things work as intended.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 03:01:00PM +0000, inam din wrote:
The matter of fact is that I have removed (.html) and it was: Index=skype electron But it was having two problems. 1. It doesn’t work in separate chat meaning that if I’m in a chat window, it doesn’t work. 2. If I press insirt+v it says chrome setting rather than Skype quick setting. Due to these two things, I was forced to remove JAWS script for Skype electron. Another thing I’d like to point out  is that this problem occurs when I enable split view in case of disable split view, it is working fine but insert+V problem is there either if I use enable split view or disable split view. At the end I was having 2 options either I leave using split view or remove JAWS script for Skype electron. I chose the second option because I like using split view very much and I was waiting for that feature since   ages. I tried my level best to rub any kind of misunderstanding. I also hope that my detailed explanation will help Doug Lee to make JAWS script for Skype electron which  could be  used in all JAWS versions   specially in JAWS 2018. At The end, all I can say is that for the sake of JAWS script for skype, my last hope since 2010 is Doug Lee.   arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@gmail.com outlook: inam092@outlook.com yahoo: inamuddin2010@yahoo.ca AOL: charlsdarwin1969@aol.com Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683   From: [1]Michele Barbi Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron  Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,  __________________________________________________________________ From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Doug Lee <dgl@dlee.org> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 5:27:59 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts  Not sure why you say it's bad news. I'm saying most things can work under older JAWS versions if you update ConfigNames.ini as I described. The one thing I'm not sure I can address for older JAWS versions is the JAWSKey+V issue. My tests this morning find that the Index=skypeelectron trick in ConfigNames.ini alsow works in JAWS 2018, as does about:blank=skypeelectron for separate chat windows. For JAWS 18.0 and 17.0, use Index.html=skypeelectron and about=skypeelectron instead. I must again say though, these tricks may well interfere with other web applications, because other web apps may also use such plain domain names for their content. JAWS is being updated to handle problems like this, and sometimes it is just not possible for a script to fix something in a JAWS version that is not written to handle it. :-) On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:29:41AM +0500, inamuddin khan wrote:   I’m very sorry to let you know that this is a very bad news specially   for those of us who cannot upgrade from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 2019.   As far as myself is concern, I became very much disappointed and at the   end I have uninstalled JAWS script for Skype electron version 121.   I therefore would like to request Doug Lee to sort something out for   those who cannot upgrade JAWS 2019.   I sincerely hope that my request will be considered as earliest manner.   With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:   Charlsdarwin1   arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement.   At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button.   You can contact me via gmail:   inamuddin09@gmail.com   outlook:   inam092@outlook.com   yahoo:   inamuddin2010@yahoo.ca   AOL:   charlsdarwin1969@aol.com   Join me with my Skype ID:   charlsdarwin1   See me on facebook:   [3]www.facebook.com/inamuddin786   Follow me on my twitter:   [4]www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1   Mobile phone:   +92-334-3348409   Google voice:   +1-631-5335683   From: [1]Michele Barbi   Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM   To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io   Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS   ScriptFor Skype Electron   Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am   using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand.   Don't know if it makes any difference,   From: [3]Doug Lee   Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 6:47 AM   To: [4]main@skypeenglish.groups.io   Subject: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the   Skype8 JAWS scripts   I now have Skype 8.51.0.86 running in Split View mode. I do not have   the latest August update to JAWS 2019 installed yet. This message will   provide information on using this new mode with my existing Skype 8   scripts, as well as   some general information on how the new view works.   First, for those who find that Insert+Q says Chrome scripts are loaded   rather than Skype scripts when a chat window is in focus:   The following early suggestions are experimental and based on my brief   experiments this evening and on   comments I have received from various folks.   You can try adding the following line to the [Domains] section of   ConfigNames.ini in the JAWS user folder; but see notes below:   [Domains]   about:blank=skypeelectron   Doing this may cause the Skype 8 scripts to load in other places   though, mostly in other web apps. This modification should not be   required in JAWS 2019 as of the August update.   Then, some general information about how this view works:   When Split View mode is enabled, pressing Enter on a conversation list   entry in the main Skype window opens the chat in a new window. Alt+Tab   then works to switch among chats and the main Skype window. However, a   new incoming   chat message will not open a new window; that will appear at the top of   the Conversation list. You just have to go there to open the window for   it yourself.   Hotkeys provided by Skype itself for jumping around in a conversation   work in separate windows as they do in the normal view; e.g.,   Alt+Shift+e for moving to the Edit box.   Commands like Alt+1 for conversation list and Alt+2 for contact list   only work in the Skype main window, not in chat windows. One way to   jump to the main window is to Tab a few times from a conversation Edit   box and press "Open   recent chats."   The rest of this message only applies to those for whom Insert+Q says   that the Skype scripts are loaded. This assumes you are running   revision 121 of my scripts.   The command sequences for moving to the chat edit and chat history   areas should work in Split View mode just as in the normal view; e.g.,   [ e to jump to the edit box.   Typing indicators and announcements should also work as expected in   split-view mode already, including the sequence [ t for announcing who   is currently typing.   Insert+T will not say who is online, away, etc., or read mood text in a   chat window, until I release a script update.   If you had to use the Index=skypeelectron and/or   about:blank=skypeelectron tricks to make the scripts load, chances are   that JAWSKey+v will bring up JAWS Quick Settings for Chrome rather than   Quick Settings for the Skype   scripts. This is because of the way JAWS handles loading scripts for   websites, as opposed to loading by application name. At this time, I   suspect there is no easy way to fix that issue except by updating to   the JAWS 2019 August   release.   --   Doug Lee                dgl@dlee.org   [5]http://www.dlee.org   Level Access            doug.lee@LevelAccess.com   [6]http://www.LevelAccess.com   "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them   to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum   References   1. [7]mailto:barbi.michele@gmail.com   2. [8]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io   3. [9]mailto:dgl@dlee.org   4. [10]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io   5. [11]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165   6. [12]mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts   7. [13]mailto:inamuddin09@gmail.com?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts   8. [14]https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874   9. [15]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post  10. [16]http://www.dlee.org/skype/  11. [17]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874  12. [18]mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io  13. [19]https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee                dgl@dlee.org               [20]http://www.dlee.org Level Access            doug.lee@LevelAccess.com   [21]http://www.LevelAccess.com "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither leisure nor science from the height of society." References 1. mailto:barbi.michele@gmail.com 2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 3. http://www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 4. http://www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 5. http://www.dlee.org/ 6. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 7. mailto:barbi.michele@gmail.com 8. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 9. mailto:dgl@dlee.org 10. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 11. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165 12. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: 13. mailto:inamuddin09@gmail.com?subject=Private: 14. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 15. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 16. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 17. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 18. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 19. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged 20. http://www.dlee.org/ 21. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 22. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4167 23. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 24. mailto:inam092@outlook.com?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 25. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 26. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 27. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 28. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 29. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 30. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." 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Re: Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts
The matter of fact is that I have removed (.html) and it was: Index=skype electron But it was having two problems. 1. It doesn’t work in separate chat meaning that if I’m in a chat window, it doesn’t work. 2. If I press insirt+v it says chrome setting rather than Skype quick setting. Due to these two things, I was forced to remove JAWS script for Skype electron. Another thing I’d like to point out is that this problem occurs when I enable split view in case of disable split view, it is working fine but insert+V problem is there either if I use enable split view or disable split view. At the end I was having 2 options either I leave using split view or remove JAWS script for Skype electron. I chose the second option because I like using split view very much and I was waiting for that feature since ages. I tried my level best to rub any kind of misunderstanding. I also hope that my detailed explanation will help Doug Lee to make JAWS script for Skype electron which could be used in all JAWS versions specially in JAWS 2018. At The end, all I can say is that for the sake of JAWS script for skype, my last hope since 2010 is Doug Lee.
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Doug Lee <dgl@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 5:27:59 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts Not sure why you say it's bad news. I'm saying most things can work under older JAWS versions if you update ConfigNames.ini as I described. The one thing I'm not sure I can address for older JAWS versions is the JAWSKey+V issue.
My tests this morning find that the Index=skypeelectron trick in ConfigNames.ini alsow works in JAWS 2018, as does about:blank=skypeelectron for separate chat windows. For JAWS 18.0 and 17.0, use Index.html=skypeelectron and about=skypeelectron instead. I must again say though, these tricks may well interfere with other web applications, because other web apps may also use such plain domain names for their content. JAWS is being updated to handle problems like this, and sometimes it is just not possible for a script to fix something in a JAWS version that is not written to handle it. :-) On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:29:41AM +0500, inamuddin khan wrote: I’m very sorry to let you know that this is a very bad news specially for those of us who cannot upgrade from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 2019. As far as myself is concern, I became very much disappointed and at the end I have uninstalled JAWS script for Skype electron version 121. I therefore would like to request Doug Lee to sort something out for those who cannot upgrade JAWS 2019. I sincerely hope that my request will be considered as earliest manner. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1 arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683 From: [1]Michele Barbi Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference, From: [3]Doug Lee Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 6:47 AM To: [4]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts I now have Skype 8.51.0.86 running in Split View mode. I do not have the latest August update to JAWS 2019 installed yet. This message will provide information on using this new mode with my existing Skype 8 scripts, as well as some general information on how the new view works. First, for those who find that Insert+Q says Chrome scripts are loaded rather than Skype scripts when a chat window is in focus: The following early suggestions are experimental and based on my brief experiments this evening and on comments I have received from various folks. You can try adding the following line to the [Domains] section of ConfigNames.ini in the JAWS user folder; but see notes below: [Domains] about:blank=skypeelectron Doing this may cause the Skype 8 scripts to load in other places though, mostly in other web apps. This modification should not be required in JAWS 2019 as of the August update. Then, some general information about how this view works: When Split View mode is enabled, pressing Enter on a conversation list entry in the main Skype window opens the chat in a new window. Alt+Tab then works to switch among chats and the main Skype window. However, a new incoming chat message will not open a new window; that will appear at the top of the Conversation list. You just have to go there to open the window for it yourself. Hotkeys provided by Skype itself for jumping around in a conversation work in separate windows as they do in the normal view; e.g., Alt+Shift+e for moving to the Edit box. Commands like Alt+1 for conversation list and Alt+2 for contact list only work in the Skype main window, not in chat windows. One way to jump to the main window is to Tab a few times from a conversation Edit box and press "Open recent chats." The rest of this message only applies to those for whom Insert+Q says that the Skype scripts are loaded. This assumes you are running revision 121 of my scripts. The command sequences for moving to the chat edit and chat history areas should work in Split View mode just as in the normal view; e.g., [ e to jump to the edit box. Typing indicators and announcements should also work as expected in split-view mode already, including the sequence [ t for announcing who is currently typing. Insert+T will not say who is online, away, etc., or read mood text in a chat window, until I release a script update. If you had to use the Index=skypeelectron and/or about:blank=skypeelectron tricks to make the scripts load, chances are that JAWSKey+v will bring up JAWS Quick Settings for Chrome rather than Quick Settings for the Skype scripts. This is because of the way JAWS handles loading scripts for websites, as opposed to loading by application name. At this time, I suspect there is no easy way to fix that issue except by updating to the JAWS 2019 August release. -- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum References 1. mailto:barbi.michele@... 2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 3. mailto:dgl@... 4. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 5. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165 6. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 7. mailto:inamuddin09@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 8. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 9. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 10. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 11. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 12. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 13. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither leisure nor science from the height of society."
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Re: Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts
Doug Lee
Not sure why you say it's bad news. I'm saying most things can work under older JAWS versions if you update ConfigNames.ini as I described. The one thing I'm not sure I can address for older JAWS versions is the JAWSKey+V issue.
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My tests this morning find that the Index=skypeelectron trick in ConfigNames.ini alsow works in JAWS 2018, as does about:blank=skypeelectron for separate chat windows. For JAWS 18.0 and 17.0, use Index.html=skypeelectron and about=skypeelectron instead. I must again say though, these tricks may well interfere with other web applications, because other web apps may also use such plain domain names for their content. JAWS is being updated to handle problems like this, and sometimes it is just not possible for a script to fix something in a JAWS version that is not written to handle it. :-)
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:29:41AM +0500, inamuddin khan wrote:
I’m very sorry to let you know that this is a very bad news specially for those of us who cannot upgrade from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 2019. As far as myself is concern, I became very much disappointed and at the end I have uninstalled JAWS script for Skype electron version 121. I therefore would like to request Doug Lee to sort something out for those who cannot upgrade JAWS 2019. I sincerely hope that my request will be considered as earliest manner. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1 arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@gmail.com outlook: inam092@outlook.com yahoo: inamuddin2010@yahoo.ca AOL: charlsdarwin1969@aol.com Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683 From: [1]Michele Barbi Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: [2]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference, From: [3]Doug Lee Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 6:47 AM To: [4]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts I now have Skype 8.51.0.86 running in Split View mode. I do not have the latest August update to JAWS 2019 installed yet. This message will provide information on using this new mode with my existing Skype 8 scripts, as well as some general information on how the new view works. First, for those who find that Insert+Q says Chrome scripts are loaded rather than Skype scripts when a chat window is in focus: The following early suggestions are experimental and based on my brief experiments this evening and on comments I have received from various folks. You can try adding the following line to the [Domains] section of ConfigNames.ini in the JAWS user folder; but see notes below: [Domains] about:blank=skypeelectron Doing this may cause the Skype 8 scripts to load in other places though, mostly in other web apps. This modification should not be required in JAWS 2019 as of the August update. Then, some general information about how this view works: When Split View mode is enabled, pressing Enter on a conversation list entry in the main Skype window opens the chat in a new window. Alt+Tab then works to switch among chats and the main Skype window. However, a new incoming chat message will not open a new window; that will appear at the top of the Conversation list. You just have to go there to open the window for it yourself. Hotkeys provided by Skype itself for jumping around in a conversation work in separate windows as they do in the normal view; e.g., Alt+Shift+e for moving to the Edit box. Commands like Alt+1 for conversation list and Alt+2 for contact list only work in the Skype main window, not in chat windows. One way to jump to the main window is to Tab a few times from a conversation Edit box and press "Open recent chats." The rest of this message only applies to those for whom Insert+Q says that the Skype scripts are loaded. This assumes you are running revision 121 of my scripts. The command sequences for moving to the chat edit and chat history areas should work in Split View mode just as in the normal view; e.g., [ e to jump to the edit box. Typing indicators and announcements should also work as expected in split-view mode already, including the sequence [ t for announcing who is currently typing. Insert+T will not say who is online, away, etc., or read mood text in a chat window, until I release a script update. If you had to use the Index=skypeelectron and/or about:blank=skypeelectron tricks to make the scripts load, chances are that JAWSKey+v will bring up JAWS Quick Settings for Chrome rather than Quick Settings for the Skype scripts. This is because of the way JAWS handles loading scripts for websites, as opposed to loading by application name. At this time, I suspect there is no easy way to fix that issue except by updating to the JAWS 2019 August release. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum References 1. mailto:barbi.michele@gmail.com 2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 3. mailto:dgl@dlee.org 4. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 5. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4165 6. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 7. mailto:inamuddin09@gmail.com?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts 8. https://groups.io/mt/32987043/409874 9. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 10. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 11. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 12. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 13. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither leisure nor science from the height of society."
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Re: Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype8 JAWS scripts
inamuddin khan
I’m very sorry to let you know that this is a very bad news specially for those of us who cannot upgrade from JAWS 2018 to JAWS 2019. As far as myself is concern, I became very much disappointed and at the end I have uninstalled JAWS script for Skype electron version 121. I therefore would like to request Doug Lee to sort something out for those who cannot upgrade JAWS 2019. I sincerely hope that my request will be considered as earliest manner. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference,
From: Doug Lee
I now have Skype 8.51.0.86 running in Split View mode. I do not have the latest August update to JAWS 2019 installed yet. This message will provide information on using this new mode with my existing Skype 8 scripts, as well as some general information on how the new view works.
First, for those who find that Insert+Q says Chrome scripts are loaded rather than Skype scripts when a chat window is in focus:
The following early suggestions are experimental and based on my brief experiments this evening and on comments I have received from various folks.
You can try adding the following line to the [Domains] section of ConfigNames.ini in the JAWS user folder; but see notes below:
[Domains] about:blank=skypeelectron
Doing this may cause the Skype 8 scripts to load in other places though, mostly in other web apps. This modification should not be required in JAWS 2019 as of the August update.
Then, some general information about how this view works:
When Split View mode is enabled, pressing Enter on a conversation list entry in the main Skype window opens the chat in a new window. Alt+Tab then works to switch among chats and the main Skype window. However, a new incoming chat message will not open a new window; that will appear at the top of the Conversation list. You just have to go there to open the window for it yourself.
Hotkeys provided by Skype itself for jumping around in a conversation work in separate windows as they do in the normal view; e.g., Alt+Shift+e for moving to the Edit box.
Commands like Alt+1 for conversation list and Alt+2 for contact list only work in the Skype main window, not in chat windows. One way to jump to the main window is to Tab a few times from a conversation Edit box and press "Open recent chats."
The rest of this message only applies to those for whom Insert+Q says that the Skype scripts are loaded. This assumes you are running revision 121 of my scripts.
The command sequences for moving to the chat edit and chat history areas should work in Split View mode just as in the normal view; e.g., [ e to jump to the edit box.
Typing indicators and announcements should also work as expected in split-view mode already, including the sequence [ t for announcing who is currently typing.
Insert+T will not say who is online, away, etc., or read mood text in a chat window, until I release a script update.
If you had to use the Index=skypeelectron and/or about:blank=skypeelectron tricks to make the scripts load, chances are that JAWSKey+v will bring up JAWS Quick Settings for Chrome rather than Quick Settings for the Skype scripts. This is because of the way JAWS handles loading scripts for websites, as opposed to loading by application name. At this time, I suspect there is no easy way to fix that issue except by updating to the JAWS 2019 August release.
-- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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Early report on Skype 8.51's Split View and the Skype 8 JAWS scripts
Doug Lee
I now have Skype 8.51.0.86 running in Split View mode. I do not have the latest August update to JAWS 2019 installed yet. This message will provide information on using this new mode with my existing Skype 8 scripts, as well as
some general information on how the new view works. First, for those who find that Insert+Q says Chrome scripts are loaded rather than Skype scripts when a chat window is in focus: The following early suggestions are experimental and based on my brief experiments this evening and on comments I have received from various folks. You can try adding the following line to the [Domains] section of ConfigNames.ini in the JAWS user folder; but see notes below: [Domains] about:blank=skypeelectron Doing this may cause the Skype 8 scripts to load in other places though, mostly in other web apps. This modification should not be required in JAWS 2019 as of the August update. Then, some general information about how this view works: When Split View mode is enabled, pressing Enter on a conversation list entry in the main Skype window opens the chat in a new window. Alt+Tab then works to switch among chats and the main Skype window. However, a new incoming chat message will not open a new window; that will appear at the top of the Conversation list. You just have to go there to open the window for it yourself. Hotkeys provided by Skype itself for jumping around in a conversation work in separate windows as they do in the normal view; e.g., Alt+Shift+e for moving to the Edit box. Commands like Alt+1 for conversation list and Alt+2 for contact list only work in the Skype main window, not in chat windows. One way to jump to the main window is to Tab a few times from a conversation Edit box and press "Open recent chats." The rest of this message only applies to those for whom Insert+Q says that the Skype scripts are loaded. This assumes you are running revision 121 of my scripts. The command sequences for moving to the chat edit and chat history areas should work in Split View mode just as in the normal view; e.g., [ e to jump to the edit box. Typing indicators and announcements should also work as expected in split-view mode already, including the sequence [ t for announcing who is currently typing. Insert+T will not say who is online, away, etc., or read mood text in a chat window, until I release a script update. If you had to use the Index=skypeelectron and/or about:blank=skypeelectron tricks to make the scripts load, chances are that JAWSKey+v will bring up JAWS Quick Settings for Chrome rather than Quick Settings for the Skype scripts. This is because of the way JAWS handles loading scripts for websites, as opposed to loading by application name. At this time, I suspect there is no easy way to fix that issue except by updating to the JAWS 2019 August release. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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Re: Skype 8.51, split view and JAWS scripts
Michele Barbi
Thanks Jerry for your report, I don't know why it happens that problem on my hand, possibly because of JAWS not fully updated but this is just my supposing. A friend of mine said that he doesn't have this mode yet, he's using NVDA as his primary screen reader but I don't think this can have anything to do. My theory is, split view is gradually rolling out for users, like some Whatsapp features such as calls. Bye! Barbuz
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