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Re: Workaround for JAWS 2019 pre August update and Skype 8.51
Dear I have seen the file it has (domain) also it has Index.html=skypeelectron. Should I remove .html and make it as Index=skypeelectron? With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
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From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Doug Lee <dgl@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 3:38:30 AM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: [skypeenglish] Workaround for JAWS 2019 pre August update and Skype 8.51 I finally got Skype 8.51 onto my laptop, which allowed me to work out the following trick for using my scripts without installing the JAWS 2019 August update. Note that because the scripts do not load, or at least do not
reliably load under the scenario being worked around, this problem cannot reasonably be resolved via modifications to the scripts themselves. If you use Skype 8.51 and my latest Skype scripts are installed but do not load (i.e., Insert+Q inside Skype says Chrome rather than Skype settings are loaded): Edit the ConfigNames.ini file in the JAWS user folder (not the shared folder). One way to open this folder is to launch Explore My Settings for JAWS 2019. Pressing Enter on ConfigNames.ini from there should open the file in Notepad. If there is no line saying [Domains], add one. Below the [Domains] line, add this: Index=skypeelectron Save the file and restart JAWS. Warning: Doing this may adversely impact the operation of other Electron-based apps you may use. You can always remove the addition(s) and restart JAWS again to retrace your steps. Also, it should go without saying (though I'm saying it anyway) that mis-editing this file could cause other things to stop working as expected. I am not certain that this workaround will work in all cases. It should not be required past the JAWS 2019 August update though. -- Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com "It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, and few accomplish it after the age of six." --John W. Gardner and Francesca Gardner Reese
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Workaround for JAWS 2019 pre August update and Skype 8.51
Doug Lee
I finally got Skype 8.51 onto my laptop, which allowed me to work out the following trick for using my scripts without installing the JAWS 2019 August update. Note that because the scripts do not load, or at least do not
reliably load under the scenario being worked around, this problem cannot reasonably be resolved via modifications to the scripts themselves. If you use Skype 8.51 and my latest Skype scripts are installed but do not load (i.e., Insert+Q inside Skype says Chrome rather than Skype settings are loaded): Edit the ConfigNames.ini file in the JAWS user folder (not the shared folder). One way to open this folder is to launch Explore My Settings for JAWS 2019. Pressing Enter on ConfigNames.ini from there should open the file in Notepad. If there is no line saying [Domains], add one. Below the [Domains] line, add this: Index=skypeelectron Save the file and restart JAWS. Warning: Doing this may adversely impact the operation of other Electron-based apps you may use. You can always remove the addition(s) and restart JAWS again to retrace your steps. Also, it should go without saying (though I'm saying it anyway) that mis-editing this file could cause other things to stop working as expected. I am not certain that this workaround will work in all cases. It should not be required past the JAWS 2019 August update though. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, and few accomplish it after the age of six." --John W. Gardner and Francesca Gardner Reese
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Jerry Pryde
Mine is set so it updates the version I'm using automatically. Downloaded updates to JAWS 2019 just last week.
On 2019-08-19 2:46 p.m., João nuno
antunes wrote:
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Larry Lumpkin
It depends on whether you have any sma’s left.
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of João nuno antunes
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 1:47 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
to update your jaws, do you have to pay?
Às 18:18 de 19-08-2019, inam din escreveu:
-- João Nuno Antunes
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
João nuno antunes
to update your jaws, do you have to pay? Às 18:18 de 19-08-2019, inam din escreveu:
-- João Nuno Antunes
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Jerry Pryde
That's why I err on the side of caution, and stick with what works, until something is properly recommended.
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I'm using script revision 113 with the latest version of Skype, and as far as I can tell, it's working perfectly. But, I'll be watching for any info on a split view in any newer version.
On 2019-08-19 2:37 p.m., Doug Lee wrote:
I'm a bit reluctant to reply to this, but I will...
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Doug Lee
I'm a bit reluctant to reply to this, but I will...
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The word "refused" in your post is probably a rough translation and not intended as a statement that I was unwilling to help you. Just in case of any confusion though, my response to your request was, "Your config file is correct, and since the issue is about the scripts not loading at all, nothing I can do with scripting could address the issue." Beyond that though, you are now coming to a public list and officially requesting help with using an illegal copy of JAWS. I don't police the use of JAWS, nor do I work to prevent people from using my scripts in illegal copies; but I also do not specifically support them. There may well be JAWS installations out there that do not update regularly for corporate or similar reasons; so whenever I can get my machine to install Skype 8.51, I hope to examine this situation before updating to the latest JAWS myself.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 05:18:05PM +0000, inam din wrote:
Dear friend, in the release notes of August update of JAWS, they have mentioned that in the latest version of Skype , script will not be loaded and they have fixed it in August update. Due to financial reasons I cannot use August update of JAWS, I therefore asked Doug Lee to help me and He simply refused me saying that He is helpless in this regard. As far as August update of JAWS is concern, yes the script is loading fine. I have installed it and checked it as 40 minutes mode. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1   Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10  __________________________________________________________________ From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:36:36 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron  For now, switch to NVDA. Skype works beautifully with NVDA. Do that until the jaws issues you are having are fixed. What issues are you having exactly. How do you meanthe scripts are not working, did you try a complete repair and reinstall of the scripts, then jaws? Take care Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our [2]website. This is also our libsyn page as well. For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go [3]here. and for hosting options go [4]here to subscribe to the feed click [5]here Our [6]telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Our [7]discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go [8]here On 19 Aug 2019, at 0:13, inamuddin khan wrote: Can you share the link for me? With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1   arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@gmail.com outlook: inam092@outlook.com yahoo: inamuddin2010@yahoo.ca AOL: charlsdarwin1969@aol.com Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683   From: [9]Michele Barbi Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: [10]main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron  Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference, but I used the installer that my friend gave me and that I linked via Firefox send. I did not manage to upgrade to JAWS 2019.1907 at the moment, so I am sticking with 1906. Bye! Barbuz  References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 2. http://www.tffppodcast.com/ 3. http://www.tffppodcast.com/premium 4. http://www.tffppodcast.com/hosting 5. http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp 6. https://t.me/tffppodcast 7. file:///Users/dlee/tmp/discord.tffppodcast.com 8. http://patreon.com/tffppodcast 9. mailto:barbi.michele@gmail.com 10. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io 11. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4128 12. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron 13. mailto:inam092@outlook.com?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron 14. https://groups.io/mt/32941531/409874 15. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 16. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 17. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 18. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 19. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com The very smart may feel they have nothing to learn from anyone; The very wise will find something to learn from everyone. (7/14/01)
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Dear friend, in the release notes of August update of JAWS, they have mentioned that in the latest version of Skype , script will not be loaded and they have fixed it in August update. Due to financial reasons I cannot use August update of JAWS, I therefore asked Doug Lee to help me and He simply refused me saying that He is helpless in this regard. As far as August update of JAWS is concern, yes the script is loading fine. I have installed it and checked it as 40 minutes mode. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:36:36 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron For now, switch to NVDA. Skype works beautifully with NVDA. Do that until the jaws issues you are having are fixed. What issues are you having exactly. How do you meanthe scripts are not working, did you try a complete repair and reinstall of the scripts, then jaws? Take care Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
website. This is also our libsyn page as well. Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 19 Aug 2019, at 0:13, inamuddin khan wrote:
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
For now, switch to NVDA. Skype works beautifully with NVDA. Do that until the jaws issues you are having are fixed. What issues are you having exactly. How do you meanthe scripts are not working, did you try a complete repair and reinstall of the scripts, then jaws? Take care Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well. Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 19 Aug 2019, at 0:13, inamuddin khan wrote:
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Michele Barbi
Update: I talked with my friend who called me even for something
else, and he told me that really the version ending with 72 has
been retired and replaced with the one ending in 86. I installed
it from Skypes websites and saw that the scripts are working ok
but I am able to find split view, so it's possibly only available
in the Windows store version. Let's see what happens when some
newer version come out. Bye! Barbuz
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Michele Barbi
No problems I will. Keep in mind though that on saturday, august 24, will expire authomatically. I just figured out also that there are still 97 download available. https://send.firefox.com/download/e482c8237e22cd6b/#FG9LN1Whuc4GZQTqs0GRCA Bye! Barbuz
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
inamuddin khan
Can you share the link for me? With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: Michele Barbi
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS ScriptFor Skype Electron
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference, but I used the installer that my friend gave me and that I linked via Firefox send. I did not manage to upgrade to JAWS 2019.1907 at the moment, so I am sticking with 1906. Bye! Barbuz
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Re: A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS Script For Skype Electron
Michele Barbi
Well I sincerely don't understand whats happening there, as I said I am using Skype 8.51.0.72 and scripts 121 are working fine on my hand. Don't know if it makes any difference, but I used the installer that my friend gave me and that I linked via Firefox send. I did not manage to upgrade to JAWS 2019.1907 at the moment, so I am sticking with 1906. Bye! Barbuz
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A Very Important Question Regarding JAWS Script For Skype Electron
inamuddin khan
Respected Doug and others, The matter of fact is that when I have updated to the latest version of Skype electron, my JAWS script for Skype electron revision 121 has stopped working at all. I have contacted with Doug Lee in this regard and He demanded the file called (Confignames.ini) after submitting that file to Him, He said that He cannot do anything at all in this regard because it is the issue of loading the script. Then I checked that script with JAWS 2018 and still not working. Now I’d like to ask a very simple question, If a person wishes to use the latest version of Skype electron which is Skype 8.51.0.72 and if He/She cannot use the latest JAWS for any reason, does it mean that He should say to the script goodbye for ever? I sincerely hope that my question will be answered swiftly. With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
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Re: Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit?
John Gassman
I haven't been folowing this thread so maybe what I am about to post has been covered.
I don't know if the current August update to JAWS n August 13 would solve your problem or not. Here is what the enhancement says: Enhancements in JAWS 2019.1907.42 (August 2019) This update to the August 2019 release addresses a recently discovered issue where JAWS application scripts failed to load in the latest Skype for Desktop update (version 8.51) released the week of August 12, 2019. There are other possible applications where this could have resulted in scripts not loading also such as the Desktop version of Slack. John JohnAt 07:04 AM 8/18/2019, you wrote: I’m using the same version of JAWS which you have. JAWS Certified, 2014. http://www.FreedomScientific.com/Certification
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Re: Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit?
Doug Lee
Send your ConfigNames.ini file from the JAWS user folder (not the shared folder). That file is what decides when to load the scripts. There may be entries with "skypeelectron" on the right side of the = sign in one or two
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sections, namely [ConfigNames] and [Domains].
On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 02:04:31PM +0000, inam din wrote:
I’m using the same version of JAWS which you have. Until Skype 8.50.0.38 it is working but in Skype 8.51.0.72 it is not working. It is saying google settings are loaded.   arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything  and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@gmail.com outlook: inam092@outlook.com yahoo: inamuddin2010@yahoo.ca AOL: charlsdarwin1969@aol.com Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683   __________________________________________________________________ From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2019 6:53:20 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit?  Ok Inamuddin, which JAWS build are you running? I am stick with 2019.1906 at this time. Using Skype 8.51.72, scripts ok. Bye! Barbuz References 1. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/message/4119 2. mailto:main@skypeenglish.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit? 3. mailto:inam092@outlook.com?subject=Private: Re: Re: [skypeenglish] Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit? 4. https://groups.io/mt/32921163/409874 5. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/post 6. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 7. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/editsub/409874 8. mailto:main+owner@skypeenglish.groups.io 9. https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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Re: Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit?
I’m using the same version of JAWS which you have. Until Skype 8.50.0.38 it is working but in Skype 8.51.0.72 it is not working. It is saying google settings are loaded.
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2019 6:53:20 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit? Ok Inamuddin, which JAWS build are you running? I am stick with 2019.1906 at this time. Using Skype 8.51.72, scripts ok. Bye! Barbuz
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Re: Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit?
Michele Barbi
Ok Inamuddin, which JAWS build are you running? I am stick with
2019.1906 at this time. Using Skype 8.51.72, scripts ok. Bye! Barbuz
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Re: Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit?
The matter of fact is that there are two versions of Skype 8.51. 1. Skype 8.51.0.72 this version of Skype electron is stable and it doesn’t have split view. 2. Skype 8.51.76.87 this version of Skype electron is preview and it has split view. I have tested both of them and in both versions the script is not working! With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1
arguing with a woman is just like reading software’s lisence agreement. At the end you ignore Her everything and click I agree button. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddin09@... outlook: inam092@... yahoo: inamuddin2010@... AOL: charlsdarwin1969@... Join me with my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 See me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Mobile phone: +92-334-3348409 Google voice: +1-631-5335683
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> on behalf of Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2019 2:51:10 PM To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit? Actually my version is 8.51.72, the scripts are working fine but I don't see split view. I am afraid there are two builds of 8.51 out there. Bye! Barbuz
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Re: Split view in Skype 8 electron, did anyone testit?
Léonie Watson
I don't think there are two preview versions, but there are two "More options" buttons: one is announced as "More options button", the other as "More options button menu". It's this last one that you want.
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Testing split view mode briefly, I noticed the following things: * When I hit enter to send a message, Jaws is no longer saying "Message sent". * I hear the typing noise when someone else is typing, but Jaws does not announce new messages as they arrive. I'm using the latest of Doug's Jaws scripts. Léonie.
On 18/08/2019 10:51, Michele Barbi wrote:
Actually my version is 8.51.72, the scripts are working fine but I don't see split view. I am afraid there are two builds of 8.51 out there. --
@LeonieWatson Carpe diem
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