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Re: skype is not syncing

Smiling?
 

Just as it showed within my email, yes ma'am, /showplaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 8:42 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] skype is not syncing

I'll do this but should in theory my skype sync on both my phone and
my computer? I want it to do that by the way, but it is not working. And
the "showplaces" command should that not be "/showplaces" Just want to
make sure.

Take care

On 17 Oct 2018, at 1:12, Smiling? wrote:

1. Enter into your own Skype account from a computer, via the Skype
desktop
client.
2. Open a random chat window.
3. Type the following command:
/showplaces
After sending a message, you should receive a response that shows you
how
many places you are online. If you show that you are registered in
more than
one location, type the following command:
/remotelogout
4. To make sure that you have successfully logged off from all other
devices
except the current device, again execute:
/showplaces
again and you should see a message with just one device.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf
Of
Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:52 PM
To: Skypeenglish list
Subject: [skypeenglish] skype is not syncing

Version: 8.32.0.44

Mac os 10.14 latest.

I notice that all of a sudden my skype is not syncing at all. I get
the
messages on my phone but not on my mac. I forgot if there was a
command
to sign out all of my devices except my computer. So what is up here
and
how can this be fixed?

Take care and be blessed.





Re: skype is not syncing

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'll do this but should in theory my skype sync on both my phone and my computer? I want it to do that by the way, but it is not working. And the "showplaces" command should that not be "/showplaces" Just want to make sure.

Take care

On 17 Oct 2018, at 1:12, Smiling? wrote:

1. Enter into your own Skype account from a computer, via the Skype desktop
client.
2. Open a random chat window.
3. Type the following command:
/showplaces
After sending a message, you should receive a response that shows you how
many places you are online. If you show that you are registered in more than
one location, type the following command:
/remotelogout
4. To make sure that you have successfully logged off from all other devices
except the current device, again execute:
/showplaces
again and you should see a message with just one device.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:52 PM
To: Skypeenglish list
Subject: [skypeenglish] skype is not syncing

Version: 8.32.0.44

Mac os 10.14 latest.

I notice that all of a sudden my skype is not syncing at all. I get the
messages on my phone but not on my mac. I forgot if there was a command
to sign out all of my devices except my computer. So what is up here and
how can this be fixed?

Take care and be blessed.





Re: skype is not syncing

Smiling?
 

1. Enter into your own Skype account from a computer, via the Skype desktop
client.
2. Open a random chat window.
3. Type the following command:
/showplaces
After sending a message, you should receive a response that shows you how
many places you are online. If you show that you are registered in more than
one location, type the following command:
/remotelogout
4. To make sure that you have successfully logged off from all other devices
except the current device, again execute:
/showplaces
again and you should see a message with just one device.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:52 PM
To: Skypeenglish list
Subject: [skypeenglish] skype is not syncing

Version: 8.32.0.44

Mac os 10.14 latest.

I notice that all of a sudden my skype is not syncing at all. I get the
messages on my phone but not on my mac. I forgot if there was a command
to sign out all of my devices except my computer. So what is up here and
how can this be fixed?

Take care and be blessed.


Re: Finding the day of messages

Sarah k Alawami
 

Woops, thought you did it through the windows feedback app. Sorry about that. My bad. Ok, you know what happens when you assume. Yeah that's me right now.

On 16 Oct 2018, at 15:50, Doug Lee wrote:

Not sure how to do that; I never saw a link to what I submitted.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:49:55AM -0700, Sarah k Alawami wrote: If possible can you file a link to this feedback here so that those of us maybe in the insider program can track it? If not that's fine.

On 15 Oct 2018, at 17:49, Doug Lee wrote:

Those headings do exist in Skype 8, but Up and Down arrows jump over them quietly.

I tried to resolve this by making Up and Down arrows stop on date divider elements, but this resulted in strange behavior because subsequent arrows would act as though focus had not moved there.

I did file the following Microsoft feedback request for Skype 8:

Please allow Up and Down arrows to focus the date divider elements in chat history controls, like they already do for "Unread messages" and "Conversation read up to this point..." dividers.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:24:42AM -0400, L??onie Watson wrote: Hello,

When reading through the history for a conversation, I hear the time of each message being announced, but not the date. Is there a way to have Jaws announce the date as well as the time of each message, or to do as the iOS app does ad have a heading inserted at the start of each new day's messages?

L??onie.

-- @LeonieWatson @tink@... Carpe diem

-- Doug Lee dgl@...
http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't. (02/05/2010)

-- Doug Lee dgl@...
http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@...
http://www.LevelAccess.com "Pray devoutly, but hammer stoutly." --Sir William G. Benham


skype is not syncing

Sarah k Alawami
 

Version: 8.32.0.44

Mac os 10.14 latest.

I notice that all of a sudden my skype is not syncing at all. I get the messages on my phone but not on my mac. I forgot if there was a command to sign out all of my devices except my computer. So what is up here and how can this be fixed?

Take care and be blessed.


Re: Finding the day of messages

Doug Lee
 

Not sure how to do that; I never saw a link to what I submitted.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:49:55AM -0700, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
If possible can you file a link to this feedback here so that those of us
maybe in the insider program can track it? If not that's fine.

On 15 Oct 2018, at 17:49, Doug Lee wrote:

Those headings do exist in Skype 8, but Up and Down arrows jump over them
quietly.

I tried to resolve this by making Up and Down arrows stop on date divider
elements, but this resulted in strange behavior because subsequent arrows
would act as though focus had not moved there.

I did file the following Microsoft feedback request for Skype 8:

Please allow Up and Down arrows to focus the date divider elements in chat
history controls, like they already do for "Unread messages" and
"Conversation read up to this point..." dividers.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:24:42AM -0400, L??onie Watson wrote:
Hello,

When reading through the history for a conversation, I hear the time of
each
message being announced, but not the date. Is there a way to have Jaws
announce the date as well as the time of each message, or to do as the iOS
app
does ad have a heading inserted at the start of each new day's messages?

L??onie.

--
@LeonieWatson @tink@toot.cafe Carpe diem



--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com
http://www.LevelAccess.com
Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't.
(02/05/2010)



--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Pray devoutly, but hammer stoutly."
--Sir William G. Benham


Re: Finding the day of messages

Sarah k Alawami
 

If possible can you file a link to this feedback here so that those of us maybe in the insider program can track it? If not that's fine.

On 15 Oct 2018, at 17:49, Doug Lee wrote:

Those headings do exist in Skype 8, but Up and Down arrows jump over them quietly.

I tried to resolve this by making Up and Down arrows stop on date divider elements, but this resulted in strange behavior because subsequent arrows would act as though focus had not moved there.

I did file the following Microsoft feedback request for Skype 8:

Please allow Up and Down arrows to focus the date divider elements in chat history controls, like they already do for "Unread messages" and "Conversation read up to this point..." dividers.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:24:42AM -0400, L??onie Watson wrote: Hello,

When reading through the history for a conversation, I hear the time of each message being announced, but not the date. Is there a way to have Jaws announce the date as well as the time of each message, or to do as the iOS app does ad have a heading inserted at the start of each new day's messages?

L??onie.

-- @LeonieWatson @tink@... Carpe diem

-- Doug Lee dgl@...
http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@...
http://www.LevelAccess.com Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't. (02/05/2010)


Re: Finding the day of messages

Doug Lee
 

Those headings do exist in Skype 8, but Up and Down arrows jump over them quietly.

I tried to resolve this by making Up and Down arrows stop on date divider elements, but this resulted in strange behavior because subsequent arrows would act as though focus had not moved there.

I did file the following Microsoft feedback request for Skype 8:

Please allow Up and Down arrows to focus the date divider elements in chat history controls, like they already do for "Unread messages" and "Conversation read up to this point..." dividers.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:24:42AM -0400, L??onie Watson wrote:
Hello,

When reading through the history for a conversation, I hear the time of each
message being announced, but not the date. Is there a way to have Jaws
announce the date as well as the time of each message, or to do as the iOS app
does ad have a heading inserted at the start of each new day's messages?

L??onie.

--
@LeonieWatson @tink@toot.cafe Carpe diem



--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't.
(02/05/2010)


Finding the day of messages

Léonie Watson
 

Hello,

When reading through the history for a conversation, I hear the time of each message being announced, but not the date. Is there a way to have Jaws announce the date as well as the time of each message, or to do as the iOS app does ad have a heading inserted at the start of each new day's messages?

Léonie.

--
@LeonieWatson @tink@toot.cafe Carpe diem


Re: Skype 8 ringing device

Nick Giannak III
 

Ironically, I'd love to have that behavior back, as wel as getting notifications for every message that comes in, not just the first new message in a conversation.

On 10/12/2018 10:31 AM, Doug Lee wrote:
Early Skype 8 versions rang through the default device even if you changed the speaker device to something else. I have not retested that in quite some time.

I really like Skype 8, and have been using it for months exclusively; but one problem I do have with it is that incoming call sounds still come through when I have set myself to Do Not Disturb. Letting you know this in case it
affects your broadcasting plans at all.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 06:55:37AM -0700, Nick Giannak III wrote:
Hello all.
I'm sending this here because I suspect some of you have contact with
Microsoft. I upgraded to Skype 8, and I honestly find it not bad at all
accessibility-wise, far from the horror show it was depicted as. I can
even use it with speed, which isn't always easy to do in this day and
age. I'm even going to find out how it does on air in a few hours...And
here's the rub.
Is there any way to have Skype 7 behavior, wherein Skype will ring
through one sound device, but not the same one as conversations play?
I do appreciate that this is lightyears better than Skype 8 was when it
came out, based on things I've seen. I hope it continues to get better!
Thanks,
Nick


References

1. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/3422
2. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%208%20ringing%20device
3. mailto:nick@giannak.me?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%208%20ringing%20device
4. https://groups.io/mt/27270759/409874
5. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
6. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
7. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874
8. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io
9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged


Re: Skype 8 ringing device

Doug Lee
 

Early Skype 8 versions rang through the default device even if you changed the speaker device to something else. I have not retested that in quite some time.

I really like Skype 8, and have been using it for months exclusively; but one problem I do have with it is that incoming call sounds still come through when I have set myself to Do Not Disturb. Letting you know this in case it
affects your broadcasting plans at all.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 06:55:37AM -0700, Nick Giannak III wrote:
Hello all.
I'm sending this here because I suspect some of you have contact with
Microsoft. I upgraded to Skype 8, and I honestly find it not bad at all
accessibility-wise, far from the horror show it was depicted as. I can
even use it with speed, which isn't always easy to do in this day and
age. I'm even going to find out how it does on air in a few hours...And
here's the rub.
Is there any way to have Skype 7 behavior, wherein Skype will ring
through one sound device, but not the same one as conversations play?
I do appreciate that this is lightyears better than Skype 8 was when it
came out, based on things I've seen. I hope it continues to get better!
Thanks,
Nick



References

1. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/3422
2. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%208%20ringing%20device
3. mailto:nick@giannak.me?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%208%20ringing%20device
4. https://groups.io/mt/27270759/409874
5. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
6. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
7. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874
8. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io
9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged

--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere."
- Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}


Skype 8 ringing device

Nick Giannak III
 

Hello all.

I'm sending this here because I suspect some of you have contact with Microsoft. I upgraded to Skype 8, and I honestly find it not bad at all accessibility-wise, far from the horror show it was depicted as. I can even use it with speed, which isn't always easy to do in this day and age. I'm even going to find out how it does on air in a few hours...And here's the rub.

Is there any way to have Skype 7 behavior, wherein Skype will ring through one sound device, but not the same one as conversations play?

I do appreciate that this is lightyears better than Skype 8 was when it came out, based on things I've seen. I hope it continues to get better!
Thanks,
Nick


Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Jean Philippe
 

Doug. That was it. Bravo!

It does not explain why the default key was not working before, but I was able to assign mine.

It is the one just under the escape key, which unfortunately does not have the same assignment on all keyboards but I find it's place convenient for a prefix key.

Best regards,

JPR



http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 11/10/2018 à 00:39, Doug Lee a écrit :
Works in all Skype windows... but I think I just spotted the issue:

MKCSOptions needs brackets around it, to conform to .ini file syntax which is the syntax of jcf files:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=r

But if your bracket keys are typing something else, who knows what you ended up with. :-)

ASCII values of interest:
[ is 91
] is 93

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:05:19AM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

take your time. Here is the last thing I did,

wrote this ridiculous line in the JCF file :

MKCSOptions
CommandKey=r

Saved it and went back to Skype. But the letter r did not act as a prefix key
either. One question, does the prefix key work in all Skype windows? Could I
be in the wrong window?

But no rush hey.

JPR



http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 23:29, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
Ideas to try besides a temporary letter:
` or accent
~ or Shift+` or Shift+accent
< or Shift+,
F2 Shift+F2 etc.

A bit of tech info to help your curiosity:

When you type a key, one thing that happens is a KeyPressedEvent call, into which a key name is passed. It is this name that we need, because my code uses that name to recognize the prefix key. The name is usually the literal
key for letters and numbers in my experience, but I don't know how that works in all languages.

I'm sorry my answers have been brief today. I'm working on several other projects and have not had a chance to dig very deep into this.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:42:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

Jaws says something like superscript 2, But I don't know if I spell it right.
Does it help?

Anyway, I would still like to know why the default prefix key does not work
either.

I could even try another key if you want, even a letter would do I imagine,
and I can take one that is the same for French and English keyboards. What do
you say?


Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 21:24, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
And any ASCII value above decimal 127 is out of the normal range for printable characters; so I expect that key has a name in JAWS. We just need to know what it is.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:17:48PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Wow. stranger. The ASCII value is 178 .
Cheers,
JPR

http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 20:48, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz





Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Doug Lee
 

Works in all Skype windows... but I think I just spotted the issue:

MKCSOptions needs brackets around it, to conform to .ini file syntax which is the syntax of jcf files:

[MKCSOptions]
CommandKey=r

But if your bracket keys are typing something else, who knows what you ended up with. :-)

ASCII values of interest:
[ is 91
] is 93

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:05:19AM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

take your time. Here is the last thing I did,

wrote this ridiculous line in the JCF file :

MKCSOptions
CommandKey=r

Saved it and went back to Skype. But the letter r did not act as a prefix key
either. One question, does the prefix key work in all Skype windows? Could I
be in the wrong window?

But no rush hey.

JPR



http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 23:29, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
Ideas to try besides a temporary letter:
` or accent
~ or Shift+` or Shift+accent
< or Shift+,
F2 Shift+F2 etc.

A bit of tech info to help your curiosity:

When you type a key, one thing that happens is a KeyPressedEvent call, into which a key name is passed. It is this name that we need, because my code uses that name to recognize the prefix key. The name is usually the literal
key for letters and numbers in my experience, but I don't know how that works in all languages.

I'm sorry my answers have been brief today. I'm working on several other projects and have not had a chance to dig very deep into this.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:42:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

Jaws says something like superscript 2, But I don't know if I spell it right.
Does it help?

Anyway, I would still like to know why the default prefix key does not work
either.

I could even try another key if you want, even a letter would do I imagine,
and I can take one that is the same for French and English keyboards. What do
you say?


Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 21:24, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
And any ASCII value above decimal 127 is out of the normal range for printable characters; so I expect that key has a name in JAWS. We just need to know what it is.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:17:48PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Wow. stranger. The ASCII value is 178 .
Cheers,
JPR

http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 20:48, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz







--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
In healthy competition, the best battles are not for status, but for excellence;
and the battles are not between me and you,
but between you and you, and between me and me. (08/15/2009)


Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Jean Philippe
 

Hi Doug,

take your time. Here is the last thing I did,

wrote this ridiculous line in the JCF file :

MKCSOptions
CommandKey=r

Saved it and went back to Skype. But the letter r did not act as a prefix key either. One question, does the prefix key work in all Skype windows? Could I be in the wrong window?

But no rush hey.

JPR



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http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 à 23:29, Doug Lee a écrit :
Ideas to try besides a temporary letter:
` or accent
~ or Shift+` or Shift+accent
< or Shift+,
F2 Shift+F2 etc.

A bit of tech info to help your curiosity:

When you type a key, one thing that happens is a KeyPressedEvent call, into which a key name is passed. It is this name that we need, because my code uses that name to recognize the prefix key. The name is usually the literal
key for letters and numbers in my experience, but I don't know how that works in all languages.

I'm sorry my answers have been brief today. I'm working on several other projects and have not had a chance to dig very deep into this.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:42:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

Jaws says something like superscript 2, But I don't know if I spell it right.
Does it help?

Anyway, I would still like to know why the default prefix key does not work
either.

I could even try another key if you want, even a letter would do I imagine,
and I can take one that is the same for French and English keyboards. What do
you say?


Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 21:24, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
And any ASCII value above decimal 127 is out of the normal range for printable characters; so I expect that key has a name in JAWS. We just need to know what it is.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:17:48PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Wow. stranger. The ASCII value is 178 .
Cheers,
JPR

http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 20:48, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz





Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Doug Lee
 

Ideas to try besides a temporary letter:
` or accent
~ or Shift+` or Shift+accent
< or Shift+,
F2 Shift+F2 etc.

A bit of tech info to help your curiosity:

When you type a key, one thing that happens is a KeyPressedEvent call, into which a key name is passed. It is this name that we need, because my code uses that name to recognize the prefix key. The name is usually the literal
key for letters and numbers in my experience, but I don't know how that works in all languages.

I'm sorry my answers have been brief today. I'm working on several other projects and have not had a chance to dig very deep into this.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:42:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

Jaws says something like superscript 2, But I don't know if I spell it right.
Does it help?

Anyway, I would still like to know why the default prefix key does not work
either.

I could even try another key if you want, even a letter would do I imagine,
and I can take one that is the same for French and English keyboards. What do
you say?


Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 21:24, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
And any ASCII value above decimal 127 is out of the normal range for printable characters; so I expect that key has a name in JAWS. We just need to know what it is.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:17:48PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Wow. stranger. The ASCII value is 178 .
Cheers,
JPR

http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 20:48, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz







--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do
what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with
them while they do it."--Theodore Roosevelt


Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Jean Philippe
 

Hi Doug,

Jaws says something like superscript 2, But I don't know if I spell it right. Does it help?

Anyway, I would still like to know why the default prefix key does not work either.

I could even try another key if you want, even a letter would do I imagine, and I can take one that is the same for French and English keyboards. What do you say?


Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 à 21:24, Doug Lee a écrit :
And any ASCII value above decimal 127 is out of the normal range for printable characters; so I expect that key has a name in JAWS. We just need to know what it is.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:17:48PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Wow. stranger. The ASCII value is 178 .
Cheers,
JPR

http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 20:48, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz





Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Doug Lee
 

And any ASCII value above decimal 127 is out of the normal range for printable characters; so I expect that key has a name in JAWS. We just need to know what it is.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 09:17:48PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Wow. stranger. The ASCII value is 178 .
Cheers,
JPR

http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 20:48, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz







--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"Our chief want in life is somebody who will make us do what
we can. {Ralph Waldo Emerson}


Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Jean Philippe
 

Le 10/10/2018 à 20:48, Doug Lee a écrit :
In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz





Re: Skype 8 language and prefix key

Doug Lee
 

In my mail program, the first key name you gave prints as ?? so I can't tell what it is. ` printed fine.

Most likely, the key name we want is the one that goes through the KeyPressedEvent function as the value of strKeyName when you press the key; but it takes some considerable fiddling to get that name to print, unless
I missed a tactic somewhere.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31:46PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Doug,

the key I would like to assign is??, which is the same as` on a French
keyboard.

But even in other jaws versions where I haven't changed the JCF file, the
default key,left bracket, is not working. I know how odd it may sound.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 19:35, Doug Lee a ??crit??:
I still bet the problem is that JAWS wants a particular name for that key instead of just the key itself.

Apologies if I missed it amid all else today lol, but what key are you trying to assign as the Command key? If it is a shifted key, use "Shift+" with the regular key or key name; e.g., CommandKey=T is bad, but
CommandKey=Shift+t is good.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 06:40:39PM +0200, Jean Philippe wrote:
Hi Michele.

I can confirm that no Extra file has been created and that the CFG Replace the
Previous one, as its Modification date is today.

I think I tried everything I could, including removing all files from the
Skype seven scripts, who knows, and switching to the English version of jaws
where scripts Were also installed.

What else can I try? Something in Jaws commun?? settings that could get in the
way maybe
? I have no idea.

Best,

JPR


http://www.jprykiel.com

http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 10/10/2018 ?? 14:28, Michele Barbi a ??crit??:
Hey guys, first of all I'd like to thank Doug because I did not know these
step for copying the file location. We always learn something new, lol!
Jean, be careful to one thing which I noticed. I don't know why, but at
least here in Italian, ctrl+s opens a window like Save as, and if asked to
replace already existing file, you should say yes.
I am now reading that you did not manage to fix the issue, so make sure if
Notepad did not create an alternative file called skypeelectron.jcf.txt.
Yesterday I had to count with it working on a jsm file for another scripts
set.
Bye!
Barbuz







--
Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com
"It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both
incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by
dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper." --Rod Serling

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