Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Doug Lee
I saw your Tandem offer but I'm doing a lot of other things between messages today. :)
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Chrome should load only for Skype 8, so I suggest using the JAWS Ctrl+JAWSKey+V command and telling me the version number of your Skype. It actually sounds like you are indeed running Skype 8. uia.jsh should not come back btw, as you found was the case; so that part worked as expected.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:32:52PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
1. In JAWS 2018's "Explore my settings" directory, I renamed UIA.JSH to UIA;.JSH.BAD. 2. Re-installed U WP scripts version 102 while running JAWS2018. 2.1. When it came time to select into which version(s) of JAWS I wanted to install the scripts, only version 18 was selected automatically, so I selected 2018 as well and proceeded. 2.2. The installation completed successfully. 2.3. Upon running Skype, it still says Chrome settings are loaded. 2.4. No new version of UIA.JSH was created. On 7/26/2018 2:11 PM, Doug Lee wrote: I believe you've been bitten by a little but hard to explain bug. Delete uia.jsh in the JAWS user folder, not the shared folder, and then reinstall. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it."--Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
1. In JAWS 2018's "Explore my settings" directory, I renamed UIA.JSH to UIA;.JSH.BAD.
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2. Re-installed U WP scripts version 102 while running JAWS2018. 2.1. When it came time to select into which version(s) of JAWS I wanted to install the scripts, only version 18 was selected automatically, so I selected 2018 as well and proceeded. 2.2. The installation completed successfully. 2.3. Upon running Skype, it still says Chrome settings are loaded. 2.4. No new version of UIA.JSH was created.
On 7/26/2018 2:11 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
I believe you've been bitten by a little but hard to explain bug. Delete uia.jsh in the JAWS user folder, not the shared folder, and then reinstall.
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Microsoft is retiring Skype 7.4. Here’s important information for JAWS users – Freedom Scientific Blog
Josephine Hirsch
Hi, all for those who are JAWS users,
Here is the info on Skype from MS and FS. http://blog.freedomscientific.com/skype8/
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Re: installing skype 8.0
Doug Lee
The oldest JAWS version supported by the Skype 8 scripts is JAWS 17, latest available revision. This is because the scripts use the "domain scripting" feature of JAWS that was introduced in JAWS 17. Prior to that, scripting a
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website, or in this case an Electron app that acts like one, required modifying browser-specific scripts. Besides that, Electron is based on Chrome, and I doubt JAWS 15 supports those controls very well.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:13:42PM -0400, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Hi all. Soon, Iâll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts. Jaws 15.0 on win-7. Anything I need to watch for? Jerry. Virus-free. [1]www.avast.com References Visible links 1. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient 2. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/2817 3. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20installing%20skype%208.0 4. mailto:jpryde1@cogeco.ca?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20installing%20skype%208.0 5. https://groups.io/mt/23825173/409874 6. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post 7. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 8. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874 9. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io 10. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged Hidden links: 12. https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient 13. file://localhost/Users/dlee/tmp/neomutt-mini-501-99760-10396158671224087683#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2 -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere." - Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author}
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Re: installing skype 8.0
Yes you will have to update JAWS 17 or higher! With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1 Â Â You can contact me via gmail: outlook: yahoo: Add my Skype ID: Follow me on my twitter ID: Call me on my cell numbers: +92-334-3348409 Â Â
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Soon, I’ll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.
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installing skype 8.0
Jerry Pryde
   Hi all.
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Soon, I’ll install Skype 8.0 with the scripts.
Jaws 15.0 on win-7.
Anything I need to watch for?
Jerry.
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Doug Lee
I believe you've been bitten by a little but hard to explain bug. Delete uia.jsh in the JAWS user folder, not the shared folder, and then reinstall.
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 02:07:11PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
And it now just occurred to me why those errors happened. When I installed, I had JAWS 17 running the first and third times, JAWS 2018 running the second time. If I use J2018, the install will likely be successful. PS, if you'd like to Tandem in and see what's going on, just let me know, I'm ready to receive. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself." --Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
And it now just occurred to me why those errors happened. When I installed, I had JAWS 17 running the first and third times, JAWS 2018 running the second time. If I use J2018, the install will likely be successful.
PS, if you'd like to Tandem in and see what's going on, just let me know, I'm ready to receive.
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
OK, here are two logs. First, the one you asked for:
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JAWS Settings Information: Google Chrome settings are used in the Skype.exe application. The configuration name is Chrome. The current scheme is Classic. And now, something interesting from the scripts' installation log. The first time I ran the installer, I got this text; the second time it ran successfully to completion, and the third time, which I tried just now in case I had downloaded the wrong thing the first time, is a duplicate of the first time's bad run. Don't laugh when you see that I can't type my own name correctly! :-) The CAPS LOCK key was obviously on when I created the original Windows 10 environment, and I never bothered to fix it. Too many things attached to that badly typed thing. Install into JAWS folders 18.0|2018.    Preparing for JAWS script compilation. 18.0: User folder: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\18.0\Settings\enu Shared folder: C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\18.0\Settings\enu Output folder: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\18.0\Settings\enu Installing files. JAWSUtil command: compile skypeuwp skypeuwp_jcpdict Updating JAWS user folder files. 2018: User folder: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2018\Settings\enu Shared folder: C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2018\Settings\enu Output folder: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2018\Settings\enu Installing files. JAWSUtil command: compile skypeuwp skypeuwp_jcpdict Command returned 1. Output: SCompile exited with code -1 Compiling skypeuwp.jss file skypeuwp.jss, line 171, column 44: Error: Unknown variable UIA_PositionInSetPropertyId file skypeuwp.jss, line 171, column 94: Error: Unknown variable UIA_SizeOfSetPropertyId file skypeuwp.jss, line 1135, column 42: Error: Unknown variable UIA_SizeOfSetPropertyId Compiling skypeuwp_jcpdict.jss End of output. Restoring this JAWS folder to its original state. JAWSInstallDirs is C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\18.0\Settings\enu. Only 1 of 2 installations succeeded. Output folder: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\JAWS Scripts For Skype UWP Created uninstaller: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\JAWS Scripts For Skype UWP\uninst_jfw_skypeuwp.exe Create folder: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\JAWS Scripts For Skype UWP Create shortcut: C:\Users\sTEVE\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\JAWS Scripts For Skype UWP\Uninstall JAWS Scripts For Skype UWP.lnk Writing log file.
On 7/26/2018 1:51 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
Ok... the Skype UWP scripts are loaded by a new system for UWP applications, which were formerly called Metro apps if I understand right. I load the Skype UWP scripts when the so-called Metro name of the active application is
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Doug Lee
Ok... the Skype UWP scripts are loaded by a new system for UWP applications, which were formerly called Metro apps if I understand right. I load the Skype UWP scripts when the so-called Metro name of the active application is
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Microsoft.SkypeApp!App Please type Ins+Q twice in quick succession while in Skype UWP and paste the results you get here. That string should appear somewhere, and if not, we probably found the problem. One other suggestion though: Make sure you have reloaded JAWS one time after installing the Skype UWP scripts. I have seen JAWS fail to recognize an update to ConfigNames.ini, the map from app name to script name, until the next JAWS reload.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 01:46:59PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Those are the ones I installed. Version 102. On 7/26/2018 1:43 PM, Doug Lee wrote: Ah ok, the scripts you want for Skype UWP for Windows 10 are at http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/ -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
Those are the ones I installed. Version 102.
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On 7/26/2018 1:43 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
Ah ok, the scripts you want for Skype UWP for Windows 10 are at http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Doug Lee
Ah ok, the scripts you want for Skype UWP for Windows 10 are at http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 01:01:24PM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
Oh boy, lots wrong here. On 7/26/2018 12:37 PM, Doug Lee wrote: If JAWS does not say, "Revision 45 Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron) settings are loaded," possibly with a different revision number, the Skype 8 scripts are not active. This is a litmus test for whether they are active,Electron? I'm on Windows 10. I installed the one from the link entitled "??? Skype UWP (Skype for windows 10) JAWS scripts". The way to remove Skype scripts, or most any of my scripts, is to find the "Uninstall ..." entry for them in your Start menu or Start screen. Typing "Skype" usually finds them. The uninstaller will offer to remove from all JAWSOK, found and got it done. Now about why you may not be seeing the Skype 8 scripts active:Thank you. It's not the Electron version, and I'm seeing it in both JAWS 18 and 2018. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com Snowmen fall from heaven, unassembled. --anon
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
Oh boy, lots wrong here.
On 7/26/2018 12:37 PM, Doug Lee wrote: If JAWS does not say, "Revision 45 Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron) settings are loaded," possibly with a different revision number, the Skype 8 scripts are not active. This is a litmus test for whether they are active,Electron? I'm on Windows 10. I installed the one from the link entitled "• Skype UWP (Skype for windows 10) JAWS scripts". The way to remove Skype scripts, or most any of my scripts, is to find the "Uninstall ..." entry for them in your Start menu or Start screen. Typing "Skype" usually finds them. The uninstaller will offer to remove from all JAWSOK, found and got it done. Now about why you may not be seeing the Skype 8 scripts active:Thank you. It's not the Electron version, and I'm seeing it in both JAWS 18 and 2018.
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Doug Lee
I'll try to cover all of this thread at once; feel free to prompt me if I miss something. :-)
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If JAWS does not say, "Revision 45 Skype for Windows Desktop 8 (Electron) settings are loaded," possibly with a different revision number, the Skype 8 scripts are not active. This is a litmus test for whether they are active, but not for whether they are installed in this case. More on that below. The way to remove Skype scripts, or most any of my scripts, is to find the "Uninstall ..." entry for them in your Start menu or Start screen. Typing "Skype" usually finds them. The uninstaller will offer to remove from all JAWS versions into which that installer installed in the first place. Go ahead and allow it to remove all of them. A script installer will detect if another installation of that same set of scripts already exists and will require the uninstaller to complete before running; but scripts for one Skype version do not detect scripts for a different Skype version - where "version" here means Skype 8, Skype 7 (which the Skype 6.22b scripts support), and Skype UWP. Now about why you may not be seeing the Skype 8 scripts active: Electron apps, such as Skype 8, act in many ways like HTML pages, including having an address, or URL, that identifies them. Confusingly enough, the URL identifying Skype 8 is simply "Index," or possibly in some JAWS versions, "Index.html." The Skype 8 scripts load based on this identifier; but I am not certain that JAWS 17, 18, and 2018 all settle on the same identifier for Skype 8. To handle this, I included more than one way to make the scripts load; but it's possible I missed a case or two. So if you are absolutely certain that the Skype 8 script installer ran successfully, that you included your active JAWS version when you installed the scripts, and that Ins+Q says "Chrome" instead of something about Skype 8; let me know which JAWS version you are using, or versions if you see this in more than one; and I'll see if I can help figure out what's going on.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:55:46AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote:
The scripts that were overwritten were in JAWS 18 and 2018, but the ones for JAWS 17 are still in place. Those are the ones I want to remove. But I'm still not sure Doug's scripts really got installed, because JAWS 18 and 2018 both said "Chrome settings are loaded" before and after I installed version 102 of his scripts. Most odd. On 7/26/2018 11:49 AM, Jerry Pryde wrote: That's what I thought. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "Our chief want in life is somebody who will make us do what we can. {Ralph Waldo Emerson}
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
The scripts that were overwritten were in JAWS 18 and 2018, but the ones for JAWS 17 are still in place. Those are the ones I want to remove.
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But I'm still not sure Doug's scripts really got installed, because JAWS 18 and 2018 both said "Chrome settings are loaded" before and after I installed version 102 of his scripts. Most odd.
On 7/26/2018 11:49 AM, Jerry Pryde wrote:
That's what I thought.
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Jerry Pryde
That's what I thought.
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When I install latest scripts, it just overrides the old ones; removes and installs the new scripts.
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From: Sarah k Alawami Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 11:47 AM To: skypeenglish@groups.io Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Are Doug's Scripts Really Active? Can you install overtop of those there by hopefully upgrading the scripts? On 26 Jul 2018, at 8:45, Steve Matzura wrote: OK, I figured out why JAWS says "Scripts 6.22," etc. I was in JAWS 17 at the time. So we'll forget all that, except for one question: How to remove those scripts?
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Can you install overtop of those there by hopefully upgrading the scripts?
On 26 Jul 2018, at 8:45, Steve Matzura wrote:
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Re: Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
OK, I figured out why JAWS says "Scripts 6.22," etc. I was in JAWS 17 at the time. So we'll forget all that, except for one question: How to remove those scripts?
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Are Doug's Scripts Really Active?
Steve Matzura <number6@...>
I just installed Doug Lee's JAWS scripts for Skype version 8.25. I'm not sure they're active. When I press JAWS Key plus Q, sometimes JAWS tells me "Chrome settings are loaded," and sometimes "Scripts for Skype 6.22 are loaded." What the ????
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Re: adding someone to a conversation
Ab o the add to group button and you should be able to check the people you want to add or hopefully kick as well. Take care
On 24 Jul 2018, at 9:02, Josephine Hirsch wrote:
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