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Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

Lino Morales
 

Herehere Octavian! You are right on the money on this one sir.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> on behalf of Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:54:10 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-
 
Sarah,
 
I kindly remember you that your needs and preferences are not the need or preferences of all computer users.
If you are happy with the limited features offered by the new version of Skype is OK, but it might not be OK for other users.
 
If you consider Mac as beeing the best OS, then this means that it is the best OS for you, not for everybody. Other people may be forced to use another operating system because there are some applications they need to use which don't exist for Mac, or are not accessible etc.
 
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

It  works and works well. You only chat with one person at once anyway, and you do’t want too many resources to be taken up, so take it, or uninstall skype and never use it.


I use skype 8 every day for my jobs and don’t mind that it is only 1 chat, it always has ben one chat and always will be one chat.
On Jul 16, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@...> wrote:

OK, but then how it can be considered OK, or even acceptable?
We might accept this limitation and not start chatting with more than one person concomitently, but other people might start chatting us.
What can we do in that case? Can we distinguish somehow the source of chat messages? Can we decide to whom we want to type to if this thing happends?
 
The very bad policy of forcing us to use another worse application doesn't make me have the courage of trying Skype 8, see if I like it, and if not, return to Skype 7 at least for the next one month and a half, because I'm afraid that this might be impossible and I might need to start using the worse solution right now.
 
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

The matter of fact is that there is no possibility of more than one chat at the same time in Skype 8 therefore we cannot do anything!
I’m very sorry to let you know that I was forced to update Skype 8.25!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
outlook:
inam092@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 
+92-334-3348409

 

From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:23 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-
I understood that Skype 8 doesn't offer the possibility of opening separate
windows for separate chats. How can we solve this problem?
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September
1 -
I believe it is both. I personally am loving skype 8. d I can do so so much
with it that I could not do wiht skype 7. The interface is very smooth and
easy to use.
> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...>
> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I just read the article but I don't know if the information is referring
> to Windows or also to Mac.
> Bye!
> Barbuz



Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

Octavian Rasnita
 


Sarah,
 
I kindly remember you that your needs and preferences are not the need or preferences of all computer users.
If you are happy with the limited features offered by the new version of Skype is OK, but it might not be OK for other users.
 
If you consider Mac as beeing the best OS, then this means that it is the best OS for you, not for everybody. Other people may be forced to use another operating system because there are some applications they need to use which don't exist for Mac, or are not accessible etc.
 
--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

It  works and works well. You only chat with one person at once anyway, and you do’t want too many resources to be taken up, so take it, or uninstall skype and never use it.


I use skype 8 every day for my jobs and don’t mind that it is only 1 chat, it always has ben one chat and always will be one chat.
On Jul 16, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@...> wrote:

OK, but then how it can be considered OK, or even acceptable?
We might accept this limitation and not start chatting with more than one person concomitently, but other people might start chatting us.
What can we do in that case? Can we distinguish somehow the source of chat messages? Can we decide to whom we want to type to if this thing happends?
 
The very bad policy of forcing us to use another worse application doesn't make me have the courage of trying Skype 8, see if I like it, and if not, return to Skype 7 at least for the next one month and a half, because I'm afraid that this might be impossible and I might need to start using the worse solution right now.
 
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

The matter of fact is that there is no possibility of more than one chat at the same time in Skype 8 therefore we cannot do anything!
I’m very sorry to let you know that I was forced to update Skype 8.25!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
outlook:
inam092@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 
+92-334-3348409

 

From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:23 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-
I understood that Skype 8 doesn't offer the possibility of opening separate
windows for separate chats. How can we solve this problem?
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September
1 -
I believe it is both. I personally am loving skype 8. d I can do so so much
with it that I could not do wiht skype 7. The interface is very smooth and
easy to use.
> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...>
> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I just read the article but I don't know if the information is referring
> to Windows or also to Mac.
> Bye!
> Barbuz



Re: Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

Sarah k Alawami
 

It  works and works well. You only chat with one person at once anyway, and you do’t want too many resources to be taken up, so take it, or uninstall skype and never use it.


I use skype 8 every day for my jobs and don’t mind that it is only 1 chat, it always has ben one chat and always will be one chat.

On Jul 16, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@...> wrote:

OK, but then how it can be considered OK, or even acceptable?
We might accept this limitation and not start chatting with more than one person concomitently, but other people might start chatting us.
What can we do in that case? Can we distinguish somehow the source of chat messages? Can we decide to whom we want to type to if this thing happends?
 
The very bad policy of forcing us to use another worse application doesn't make me have the courage of trying Skype 8, see if I like it, and if not, return to Skype 7 at least for the next one month and a half, because I'm afraid that this might be impossible and I might need to start using the worse solution right now.
 
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-

The matter of fact is that there is no possibility of more than one chat at the same time in Skype 8 therefore we cannot do anything!
I’m very sorry to let you know that I was forced to update Skype 8.25!
 
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1
 
 
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
outlook:
inam092@...
Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 
+92-334-3348409

 

 
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:23 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September 1-
 
I understood that Skype 8 doesn't offer the possibility of opening separate
windows for separate chats. How can we solve this problem?
 
--Octavian
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft is Killing Skype Classic on September
1 -
 
 
I believe it is both. I personally am loving skype 8. d I can do so so much
with it that I could not do wiht skype 7. The interface is very smooth and
easy to use.
 
> On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...>
> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I just read the article but I don't know if the information is referring
> to Windows or also to Mac.
> Bye!
> Barbuz
 
 
 
 
 

 
 


Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Sarah k Alawami
 

I agree. And what are these blindo organization going to do? Nothing. It is upto microsoft and only microsoft. Not the blindo organizations that don’t really accomplish much in terms of accessibility and software in my humble opinion. So yeah contact microp and see if  you can submit feedback. Idid and the mac client is much much better.

On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@...> wrote:

I agree with doug's answer on this matter, because it should be part of the remit of the software vendors to strive to insure their apps are accessible, and not up to a blindness organisation who in real terms is only in it for the holy dollar to get more of our hard earned just to give us access to an app we can already get for free in the first place. we should not have to pay through our hind ends for the right to be able to use someone's app.



On 17/07/2018 23:38, Doug Lee wrote:
I am not aware of a way to create an app like that at this time. I also don't consider it either necessary or wise, though: I consider it unnecessary because Microsoft is working on making this Skype accessible. I consider it
unwise because (1) it could reduce Microsoft's incentive to do that, and (2) the new app would very likely have trouble keeping in sync with new features of the Microsoft offerings as they become available.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 09:40:32AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no
we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer
organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work,
please except my input from Joseph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8
is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome
control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it
only
worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0
do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google
Chrome
window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



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Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

James Malone
 

Hi Doug, can you just do a upgrade from Skype classic to Skype 8? If not, do
you have the download link to download, and install it?
James

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Doug Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 6:08 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype

Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8 is
an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome control
that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
Mostly I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew
it only worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0 do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google
Chrome window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@...
http://www.LevelAccess.com
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same
pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict! (04/04/2012)


Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Mike DeZinno
 

Doug thanks for your response,
I agree with your reasons and gladly defer to your greater wisdom.
Mike, in SC

At 10:08 AM 7/17/2018, you wrote:
I am not aware of a way to create an app like that at this time. I also don't consider it either necessary or wise, though: I consider it unnecessary because Microsoft is working on making this Skype accessible. I consider it
unwise because (1) it could reduce Microsoft's incentive to do that, and (2) the new app would very likely have trouble keeping in sync with new features of the Microsoft offerings as they become available.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 09:40:32AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no
we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer
organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work,
please except my input from Joseph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


> Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8
> is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome
> control that does not run inside an actual browser.
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
> Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
> Mostly
> I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it
> only
> worked with Windows 7 and 8.
> Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
> scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
> section:
> "These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0
> do
> not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google
> Chrome
> window.)"
> I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
> instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
> Bye!
> Barbuz
>
>
>
> --
> Doug Lee                 dgl@...                http://www.dlee.org
> Level Access             doug.lee@...
> http://www.LevelAccess.com
> A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same
> pedal:
> The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict!
> (04/04/2012)
>
>
>




--
Doug Lee                 dgl@...                http://www.dlee.org
Level Access             doug.lee@...    http://www.LevelAccess.com
"The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them
to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum


Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

cecropia64
 

That, unfortunately, is the name of the game when it comes to anything dealing with disabilities and accessibility.  Those of them that can get those of us who can't and get us royally. Should be as simple as people caring for each other.  But it doesn't seem to be like that.

On 7/17/2018 11:20 AM, Shaun Oliver wrote:
I agree with doug's answer on this matter, because it should be part of the remit of the software vendors to strive to insure their apps are accessible, and not up to a blindness organisation who in real terms is only in it for the holy dollar to get more of our hard earned just to give us access to an app we can already get for free in the first place. we should not have to pay through our hind ends for the right to be able to use someone's app.



On 17/07/2018 23:38, Doug Lee wrote:
I am not aware of a way to create an app like that at this time. I also don't consider it either necessary or wise, though: I consider it unnecessary because Microsoft is working on making this Skype accessible. I consider it
unwise because (1) it could reduce Microsoft's incentive to do that, and (2) the new app would very likely have trouble keeping in sync with new features of the Microsoft offerings as they become available.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 09:40:32AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no
we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer
organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work,
please except my input from Joseph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8
is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome
control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it
only
worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0
do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google
Chrome
window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



--
Doug Lee                 dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access             doug.lee@...
http://www.LevelAccess.com
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same
pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict!
(04/04/2012)






Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Shaun Oliver
 

I agree with doug's answer on this matter, because it should be part of the remit of the software vendors to strive to insure their apps are accessible, and not up to a blindness organisation who in real terms is only in it for the holy dollar to get more of our hard earned just to give us access to an app we can already get for free in the first place. we should not have to pay through our hind ends for the right to be able to use someone's app.

On 17/07/2018 23:38, Doug Lee wrote:
I am not aware of a way to create an app like that at this time. I also don't consider it either necessary or wise, though: I consider it unnecessary because Microsoft is working on making this Skype accessible. I consider it
unwise because (1) it could reduce Microsoft's incentive to do that, and (2) the new app would very likely have trouble keeping in sync with new features of the Microsoft offerings as they become available.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 09:40:32AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no
we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer
organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work,
please except my input from Joseph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8
is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome
control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it
only
worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0
do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google
Chrome
window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@...
http://www.LevelAccess.com
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same
pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict!
(04/04/2012)




Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Michele Barbi
 

Ok Doug, thanks for your explanation. I was afraid of some issues since I read about Chrome, but now I realized my worries have no basics.
Bye!
Barbuz


Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Joseph Machise <josephmachise@...>
 

I find it hard to except that microsoft is going to make skype accessible

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


I am not aware of a way to create an app like that at this time. I also don't consider it either necessary or wise, though: I consider it unnecessary because Microsoft is working on making this Skype accessible. I consider it
unwise because (1) it could reduce Microsoft's incentive to do that, and (2) the new app would very likely have trouble keeping in sync with new features of the Microsoft offerings as they become available.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 09:40:32AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no
we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer
organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work,
please except my input from Joseph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8
is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome
control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it
only
worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0
do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google
Chrome
window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@...
http://www.LevelAccess.com
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same
pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict!
(04/04/2012)





--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
"The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them
to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum


Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Mich Verrier
 

Hi Dug and all. I just installd the skype scrips ad well as skype 8. I am
wondering how do you end a call? Also how do you get to the options for
setting the keystrokes like in skype 7? Or is there a way to do this in
skype 8? Many thanks. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: July 17, 2018 10:09 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype

I am not aware of a way to create an app like that at this time. I also
don't consider it either necessary or wise, though: I consider it
unnecessary because Microsoft is working on making this Skype accessible. I
consider it unwise because (1) it could reduce Microsoft's incentive to do
that, and (2) the new app would very likely have trouble keeping in sync
with new features of the Microsoft offerings as they become available.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 09:40:32AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no
we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer
organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work,
please except my input from Joseph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype
8 is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a
Chrome control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it
only worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype
8 scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system
requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to
17.0 do not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside
a Google Chrome window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running
Firefox instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@...
http://www.LevelAccess.com
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same
pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict!
(04/04/2012)





--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
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Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Doug Lee
 

I am not aware of a way to create an app like that at this time. I also don't consider it either necessary or wise, though: I consider it unnecessary because Microsoft is working on making this Skype accessible. I consider it
unwise because (1) it could reduce Microsoft's incentive to do that, and (2) the new app would very likely have trouble keeping in sync with new features of the Microsoft offerings as they become available.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 09:40:32AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no
we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer
organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work,
please except my input from Joseph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8
is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome
control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone.
Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it
only
worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0
do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google
Chrome
window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



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Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Joseph Machise <josephmachise@...>
 

dug, is it possible, that someone will make another program like GW, you no we should talk to microsoft about this maybe we should go to these consumer organizations,it doesn't matter how hard you try dug, it just doesn't work, please except my input from Joseph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Answers regarding Windows Skype


Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8 is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone. Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it only
worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0 do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google Chrome
window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict! (04/04/2012)


Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Doug Lee
 

Which browser you use or have installed will not affect Skype 8. Skype 8 is an Electron app, and Electron is basically web content in a Chrome control that does not run inside an actual browser.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 02:28:02PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone. Mostly
I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it only
worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8
scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements
section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0 do
not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google Chrome
window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox
instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz



--
Doug Lee dgl@... http://www.dlee.org
Level Access doug.lee@... http://www.LevelAccess.com
A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict! (04/04/2012)


Re: Answers regarding Windows Skype

Michele Barbi
 

Many thanks for these infos Doug, I think they're useful for everyone. Mostly I did not expect Skype 8.x to be compatible with Windows 10, I knew it only worked with Windows 7 and 8.
Now a question for those who can help. Opening the link for the Skype 8 scripts, and the manual afterwards, I read this on the system requirements section:
"These scripts require JAWS 17.0 or greater. (JAWS versions prior to 17.0 do not support web site specific scripts, and Skype 8 runs inside a Google Chrome window.)"
I didn't install Google chrome in my desktop machine, I am running Firefox instead. Will this cause any kind of problems when using Skype 8?
Bye!
Barbuz


Answers regarding Windows Skype

Doug Lee
 

Microsoft's announcement of the September 1 discontinuation of Skype 7 (Classic) has brought us quite a bit of traffic on this list. Here are some hopefully helpful bits of info:

Will Skype 7 (Classic) work after September 1 if you download it now? Microsoft says no. They are not just saying they're no longer going to support it; they're saying it will not work after that date. Time will tell, but
that's the official word.

Which Skype should we use then? I now say Skype 8, because Microsoft has begun offering it to everyone, even Windows 10 users. Skype UWP for Windows 10 is still supported though.

Did I once say I thought Skype 8 would soon die? Possibly; I predicted Skype UWP would become the preferred Skype version. As of now though, I believe Skype 8 will become the preferred version. Again, time will tell.

Are there JAWS scripts for Skype 8? Yes, at http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ - and I just updated them before sending this email. See the site I just gave for details on what changed.

Is there an NVDA add-on for Skype 8? Yes, at http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

Is there a list of keyboard shortcuts for Skype 8? Yes, at https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

Will Clisk work with Skype 8? No. The API required by Clisk is no longer supported at all in Skype 8 or Skype UWP. (For those who don't know, Clisk, the Command Line Interface for Skype, is a Python-based application I've
maintained for many years.) This end-of-life for that API is no surprise and was in fact delayed for several years beyond initial expectations.

I wish everyone well in this transition, and I hope my scripting and add-on work is helpful.

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Re: What now?

Brian Olesen
 

Hey Jerry,

Thanks a lot man!

 

Brian

 

Fra: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> På vegne af Jerry Pryde
Sendt: 17. juli 2018 09:13
Til: skypeenglish@groups.io
Emne: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

 

Brian:

Here’s the link for the scripts for Skype 8.

Doug’s explanation on that page is helpful.

Jerry.

 

Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 3:07 AM

Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

 

Sara,

Is there any scripts for Skype 8?

I haven’t been following this so closely lately.

 

Brian

 

Fra: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> På vegne af Sarah k Alawami
Sendt: 16. juli 2018 21:21
Til: skypeenglish@groups.io
Emne: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

 

I do use both. I use zoom and skype for my obs every day and I’m getting around skype very well. Give it another go. You will love it.

 

On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Dan Eickmeier via Groups.Io <va3ets2000@...> wrote:

 

Yeah I couldn’t agree more Mike.  When i first tried Skype 8 on the mac, I tried it briefly, I decided to totally abandon it, and have switched to zoom.

On Jul 16, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mike Bernard via Groups.Io <mbern6516@...> wrote:

What concerns me, is the interface. Particularly the contacts list. People I know who are screen reader users, have complained that in Skype 8, they have no way to know when someone is either online, offline, away, Etc. Then of course, there's the confrence call thing, sending ims and command structure as a whole and so forth. I've heard reviews from both the sighted and the blind, and unfortunately, none of them have been good. Basically, many people are saying, "what the heck did microsoft do to this program?" That's not actually the way I wanted to put it, but I didn't want to come out and curse on the list. But trust me when I say, people are hating this new version.  Just in case, I'm also looking into another voip program.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:42 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

Basically after September u won’t be able to use it. I would learn the skype 8. It actually is not that bad. Ive ben using it for my job since about maybe July or late June and I am actually loving it.

On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, cecropia64 <cecropia64@...> wrote:

So what does this mean for those of us using Skype classic?  What happens now?











 

 

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Re: What now?

Jerry Pryde
 

Brian:
Here’s the link for the scripts for Skype 8.
Doug’s explanation on that page is helpful.
Jerry.
 

Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?
 

Sara,

Is there any scripts for Skype 8?

I haven’t been following this so closely lately.

 

Brian

 

Fra: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> På vegne af Sarah k Alawami
Sendt: 16. juli 2018 21:21
Til: skypeenglish@groups.io
Emne: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

 

I do use both. I use zoom and skype for my obs every day and I’m getting around skype very well. Give it another go. You will love it.



On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Dan Eickmeier via Groups.Io <va3ets2000@...> wrote:

 

Yeah I couldn’t agree more Mike.  When i first tried Skype 8 on the mac, I tried it briefly, I decided to totally abandon it, and have switched to zoom.


On Jul 16, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mike Bernard via Groups.Io <mbern6516@...> wrote:

What concerns me, is the interface. Particularly the contacts list. People I know who are screen reader users, have complained that in Skype 8, they have no way to know when someone is either online, offline, away, Etc. Then of course, there's the confrence call thing, sending ims and command structure as a whole and so forth. I've heard reviews from both the sighted and the blind, and unfortunately, none of them have been good. Basically, many people are saying, "what the heck did microsoft do to this program?" That's not actually the way I wanted to put it, but I didn't want to come out and curse on the list. But trust me when I say, people are hating this new version.  Just in case, I'm also looking into another voip program.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:42 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

Basically after September u won’t be able to use it. I would learn the skype 8. It actually is not that bad. Ive ben using it for my job since about maybe July or late June and I am actually loving it.


On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, cecropia64 <cecropia64@...> wrote:

So what does this mean for those of us using Skype classic?  What happens now?














 


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Re: What now?

Brian Olesen
 

Hi Doug,
Can you recommend either version over the other. I mean is the Skype Client
for Windows 10 better or worse then the Skype 8 electron?

Thanks in advance.

Brian

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> På vegne af Doug Lee
Sendt: 16. juli 2018 22:24
Til: skypeenglish@groups.io
Emne: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

You might be helped by my JAWS scripts for Skype 8 at
http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ or by my NVDA add-on for Skype 8 at
http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon

These of course work with Skype 8 but not Skype 7.

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 02:34:28PM -0500, Josephine Hirsch wrote:
I am using Skype version 7.5.9 for Windows 7, and Skype 8 does not work very
well with my computer, JAWS, nor NVDA.


On 7/16/2018 2:32 PM, Mich Verrier wrote:
Hi all I am running Skype?????? Version 7.41.0.101 on windows 10 and
jaws 2018.is this the version that is not going to work after September? And
if so where do I get skype 8? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Josephine Hirsch
Sent: July 16, 2018 3:23 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

When I tried Skype 8 on Windows, and it have no option for checking my
voicemail.. It is basically for Windows 10, and I have Windows 7 as my
computer's OSSo I switched it back to Skype Classic

On 7/16/2018 2:20 PM, Dan Eickmeier via Groups.Io wrote:
Yeah I couldn???t agree more Mike. When i first tried Skype 8 on the
mac, I tried it briefly, I decided to totally abandon it, and have switched
to zoom.

On Jul 16, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mike Bernard via Groups.Io
<mbern6516=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

What concerns me, is the interface. Particularly the contacts list.
People I know who are screen reader users, have complained that in Skype 8,
they have no way to know when someone is either online, offline, away, Etc.
Then of course, there's the confrence call thing, sending ims and command
structure as a whole and so forth. I've heard reviews from both the sighted
and the blind, and unfortunately, none of them have been good. Basically,
many people are saying, "what the heck did microsoft do to this program?"
That's not actually the way I wanted to put it, but I didn't want to come
out and curse on the list. But trust me when I say, people are hating this
new version. Just in case, I'm also looking into another voip program.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:42 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

Basically after September u won???t be able to use it. I would learn
the skype 8. It actually is not that bad. Ive ben using it for my job since
about maybe July or late June and I am actually loving it.

On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, cecropia64 <cecropia64@...> wrote:

So what does this mean for those of us using Skype classic? What
happens now?
















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Re: What now?

Brian Olesen
 

Sara,

Is there any scripts for Skype 8?

I haven’t been following this so closely lately.

 

Brian

 

Fra: skypeenglish@groups.io <skypeenglish@groups.io> På vegne af Sarah k Alawami
Sendt: 16. juli 2018 21:21
Til: skypeenglish@groups.io
Emne: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

 

I do use both. I use zoom and skype for my obs every day and I’m getting around skype very well. Give it another go. You will love it.



On Jul 16, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Dan Eickmeier via Groups.Io <va3ets2000@...> wrote:

 

Yeah I couldn’t agree more Mike.  When i first tried Skype 8 on the mac, I tried it briefly, I decided to totally abandon it, and have switched to zoom.


On Jul 16, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Mike Bernard via Groups.Io <mbern6516@...> wrote:

What concerns me, is the interface. Particularly the contacts list. People I know who are screen reader users, have complained that in Skype 8, they have no way to know when someone is either online, offline, away, Etc. Then of course, there's the confrence call thing, sending ims and command structure as a whole and so forth. I've heard reviews from both the sighted and the blind, and unfortunately, none of them have been good. Basically, many people are saying, "what the heck did microsoft do to this program?" That's not actually the way I wanted to put it, but I didn't want to come out and curse on the list. But trust me when I say, people are hating this new version.  Just in case, I'm also looking into another voip program.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 2:42 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] What now?

Basically after September u won’t be able to use it. I would learn the skype 8. It actually is not that bad. Ive ben using it for my job since about maybe July or late June and I am actually loving it.


On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:36 AM, cecropia64 <cecropia64@...> wrote:

So what does this mean for those of us using Skype classic?  What happens now?