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Re: skype UWP and windows 10 issue

Doug Lee
 

My only additional ideas are Do Not Disturb being on, or the sound output device being something other than expected.

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 03:08:21AM +0000, Lino Morales wrote:
Weird. It should have worked. Maybe it rang, but the volume got lower?
If you use JAWS audio ducking that's possible. On NVDA you can cycle to
have it off or duck when outputting speech or always duck.


Lino Morales


From: [1]Michael Amaro
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:35 PM
To: [2]skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] skype UWP and windows 10 issue


Hello Listers,


A friend and I tried skype UWP today. How ever When he would try and
call me it would not ring. I got on to skype classic it worked like it
should. I have the same settings on both versions. Running windows 10
latest build and latest jaws. Can some please help?


thanks


Michael


Email:


[3]mikeameli@earthlink.net


iPhone:


[4]mikeameli@iCloud.com
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genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living,
the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build
a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but
peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for
all time."




References

1. mailto:mikeameli@earthlink.net
2. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io
3. mailto:mikeameli@earthlink.net
4. mailto:mikeameli@iCloud.com
5. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/2458
6. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20skype%20UWP%20and%20windows%2010%20issue
7. mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20skype%20UWP%20and%20windows%2010%20issue
8. https://groups.io/mt/13840292/409874
9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post
10. http://www.dlee.org/skype/
11. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874
12. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish
13. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io
14. https://groups.io/static/tos
15. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged

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Re: skype UWP and windows 10 issue

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Weird. It should have worked. Maybe it rang, but the volume got lower? If you use JAWS audio ducking that’s possible. On NVDA you can cycle to have it off or duck when outputting speech or always duck.

 

Lino Morales

 

From: Michael Amaro
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 5:35 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: [skypeenglish] skype UWP and windows 10 issue

 

Hello Listers,

 

A friend and I tried skype UWP today.  How ever When he would try and call me it would not ring.  I got on to skype classic it worked like it should.  I have the same settings on both versions.  Running windows 10 latest build and latest jaws.  Can some please help?

 

thanks

 

Michael

 

Email:

 

 

iPhone:

 

 

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."
 

 


skype UWP and windows 10 issue

Michael Amaro
 

Hello Listers,
 
A friend and I tried skype UWP today.  How ever When he would try and call me it would not ring.  I got on to skype classic it worked like it should.  I have the same settings on both versions.  Running windows 10 latest build and latest jaws.  Can some please help?
 
thanks
 
Michael
 
Email:
 
 
iPhone:
 
 
What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."
 


Re: eletron

Michele Barbi
 

Hello Marvin and list,
if I got well, Skype 8.x Electron is for Windows 8.1 and below, till Win 7 I think. For Windows 10 we'll have to use Skype UWP.
Bye!
Barbuz


eletron

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. What is electron and do you have scripts, and what’s the difference between skype electron and skype for windows 10. Confused? Which one is the better one for accessibility with jaws and your scripts. Please advice.

Thanks.


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Re: skype app and jaws scripts

ann
 

Did you have to do anything special to get those scripts to work? I still can't get them to work with my Jaws18 on my computer,a nd it isn't for the writer's lack of trying to help me out, that's for sure.

~Ann


On 3/3/2018 10:41 PM, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi. Did read the documentation and got the scripts to work. But would be handy, a keyboard short cut to select that I am online, or is the active setting, I am online. And when entering a chat message, it does tell me the time, but not the date, did go into the settings in jaws and tweek things. What does the web prievew do. Pity, also no indication if some one is online in my contacts, or off line, that info would be great in the windows universal scripts. Got the latest version, 12.9 which I download from the Sydney Microsoft store yesterday. And got jaws 2018, latest update, windows 10 64 bit pro 1709 latest update, and the latest scripts. Unless there’s any newer scripts. Thanks.


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skype app and jaws scripts

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. Did read the documentation and got the scripts to work. But would be handy, a keyboard short cut to select that I am online, or is the active setting, I am online. And when entering a chat message, it does tell me the time, but not the date, did go into the settings in jaws and tweek things. What does the web prievew do. Pity, also no indication if some one is online in my contacts, or off line, that info would be great in the windows universal scripts. Got the latest version, 12.9 which I download from the Sydney Microsoft store yesterday. And got jaws 2018, latest update, windows 10 64 bit pro 1709 latest update, and the latest scripts. Unless there’s any newer scripts. Thanks.


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Re: checking the voicemail on the new Skype version

Josephine Hirsch
 

Hi, Mr. Lee,

Just out of curiosity, is it better to use JAWS 18 or JAWS 2018 for the new Skype version for just checking your voicemail?

Thanks,

Josephine

On 3/2/2018 8:56 PM, Josephine Hirsch wrote:
Hello,


I was wondering if anyone have figured out how to check his/her voicemail on the new version of Skype. I recently just installed the scripts for Skype because I use JAWS as an screenreader on my laptop. Does anyone know what is the command for checking your voicemail for the new version of Skype?

Thanks,

Josephine



Re: jaws scrips for windows 10 skype app not working

Vlad Dragomir
 

Don't worry, the exact same thing happened to me, and I thought I was the only weird character here with a faulty computer. Maybe it's because of Jaws18, I'll try to upgrade later this year and see if anything changes.

Cheers!


Re: jaws scrips for windows 10 skype app not working

ann
 

Hi,


I can't get the scripts for Windows10 to work either. They just don't load with my Jaws 18 at all. But other people are using them so I figured it was just my weird computer.


~Ann




On 3/3/2018 5:58 AM, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi. What does the windows 10 app scripts do. Did install with jaws 2018 and the latest scripts. Do I need to shutdown and restart for it to work.

Thanks.


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jaws scrips for windows 10 skype app not working

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. What does the windows 10 app scripts do. Did install with jaws 2018 and the latest scripts. Do I need to shutdown and restart for it to work.

Thanks.


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how to get the most out of the windows 10 skype app

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. So downloaded the jaws scripts for the universal skype app. On the desktop stupidly deleted a group, and could not get it back, so I thought. Okay will go and get the windows 10 skype app from Microsoft and the jaws scrips, and installed. So any tips, tweeks for getting the best experience from the skype app, windows 10, and then what settings to tweek, and then how to delete messages, conversations, and does not say online status of some of my contacts. Any tips.

Thanks.

Ps: using jaws 2018 latest update febaury 2018, windows 10 64 bit pro 1709 latest update, and skype 8.1 windows 10 app.


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Re: checking the voicemail on the new Skype version

Doug Lee
 

Voicemails, for a long time even in Skype 7, have been showing up as part of conversations with the people they're from. You get indications of a missed event in a conversation for a voicemail just like you do for a call or
chat message. The voicemail becomes an entry in the conversation's history. To play it, you find that list entry, tab to the Play button for it, and press Space.

There's one curveball in Skype 8 though: I believe the Play button is not yet named there. I also believe you tab twice from the list entry and press Space for that case.

Hope this helps.

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 08:56:43PM -0600, Josephine Hirsch wrote:
Hello,


I was wondering if anyone have figured out how to check his/her voicemail on
the new version of Skype. I recently just installed the scripts for Skype
because I use JAWS as an screenreader on my laptop. Does anyone know what is
the command for checking your voicemail for the new version of Skype?

Thanks,

Josephine




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checking the voicemail on the new Skype version

Josephine Hirsch
 

Hello,


I was wondering if anyone have figured out how to check his/her voicemail on the new version of Skype. I recently just installed the scripts for Skype because I use JAWS as an screenreader on my laptop. Does anyone know what is the command for checking your voicemail for the new version of Skype?

Thanks,

Josephine


Re: Official word on Skype 7 for Windows

Octavian Rasnita
 

OK, thanks.

From the missing features, the one regarding the full sound redirection looks to be a bug and I hope it will be solved if they'll know about it.

Regarding the first 2 missing features, the lack of split view and the possibility of identifying the current contact look to be the worst.
Is there a way for us to solve them?

I always used only the split view and I don't know how it works the standard way.
If there is a single window and a single text field where we write the messages, how can we change the current contact and how can we find which is the current contact?
I guess that it should be a hotkey for changing the current contact and that we can find the current contact by reading the last chat messages, but it is just a guess.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Official word on Skype 7 for Windows


My best shot at that, surely incomplete, is in a list at http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 06:26:50AM +0200, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi Doug,

Can you summarize which are the important features in Skype 7 which are
missing from the 2 new Skype versions?
I think that it might be helpful to sent that list of missing features to MS
and ask them to allow us use Skype 7 until those important features will be
also available in the new versions.

Thank you again for your work.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 12:50 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Official word on Skype 7 for Windows


I asked of the official @SkypeSupport Twitter account yesterday:

doug_lee42:@SkypeSupport Do I understand correctly: 1. Skype 7 is being
retired currently. 2. Skype 7 is not available from Microsoft. 3. Skype 7
will work for now if you can find it or already run it. 4. Skype 7 will
continue
to work that way until sometime after an a deadline yet to be announced.
[https://twitter.com/doug_lee42/status/968985102591168514]

Their answer today I consider definitive:

SkypeSupport:@doug_lee42 You are 100% spot on.
[https://twitter.com/SkypeSupport/status/969331816258818048]

So if you can find it, and you can install it, you can use it, for now;
but you can no longer get it from Microsoft, i.e., skype.com.

To the extent I, with my small hands and single voice, can do it, I wish
to hold them to that announcement, so that we can know, with some warning,
when Skype 7 will actually stop working.

Meanwhile, if you feel you're ready, go ahead and play with Skype UWP if
you're using Windows 10, or Skype 8, the Electron app, if you're using
Windows 8.1, 7, etc.

Screen reader support pointers, just so they're all here in one place:

JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/
Windows 10 App Essentials addon, an NVDA addon that helps with Skype UWP
and other Windows 10 apps:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

JAWS scripts for Skype 8 (Electron app):
http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
NVDA addon for Skype 8: Ahem... that would be a twinkle in my eye that I
hope to make a project soon. :)

Legacy scripts for Skype 7: http://www.dlee.org/skype/
NVDA support for Skype 7: Built in as an app module, part of NVDA itself.

Microsoft page listing keystrokes for all Skype versions (pick your tab
from near the bottom):
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype
Microsoft page listing Windows keyboard shortcuts, a few of which are
relevant to Skype UWP users:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/12445/windows-keyboard-shortcuts


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Re: Official word on Skype 7 for Windows

Doug Lee
 

My best shot at that, surely incomplete, is in a list at http://www.dlee.org/skype/skype7phaseout.htm

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 06:26:50AM +0200, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi Doug,

Can you summarize which are the important features in Skype 7 which are
missing from the 2 new Skype versions?
I think that it might be helpful to sent that list of missing features to MS
and ask them to allow us use Skype 7 until those important features will be
also available in the new versions.

Thank you again for your work.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 12:50 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Official word on Skype 7 for Windows


I asked of the official @SkypeSupport Twitter account yesterday:

doug_lee42:@SkypeSupport Do I understand correctly: 1. Skype 7 is being
retired currently. 2. Skype 7 is not available from Microsoft. 3. Skype 7
will work for now if you can find it or already run it. 4. Skype 7 will
continue
to work that way until sometime after an a deadline yet to be announced.
[https://twitter.com/doug_lee42/status/968985102591168514]

Their answer today I consider definitive:

SkypeSupport:@doug_lee42 You are 100% spot on.
[https://twitter.com/SkypeSupport/status/969331816258818048]

So if you can find it, and you can install it, you can use it, for now;
but you can no longer get it from Microsoft, i.e., skype.com.

To the extent I, with my small hands and single voice, can do it, I wish
to hold them to that announcement, so that we can know, with some warning,
when Skype 7 will actually stop working.

Meanwhile, if you feel you're ready, go ahead and play with Skype UWP if
you're using Windows 10, or Skype 8, the Electron app, if you're using
Windows 8.1, 7, etc.

Screen reader support pointers, just so they're all here in one place:

JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/
Windows 10 App Essentials addon, an NVDA addon that helps with Skype UWP
and other Windows 10 apps:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

JAWS scripts for Skype 8 (Electron app):
http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
NVDA addon for Skype 8: Ahem... that would be a twinkle in my eye that I
hope to make a project soon. :)

Legacy scripts for Skype 7: http://www.dlee.org/skype/
NVDA support for Skype 7: Built in as an app module, part of NVDA itself.

Microsoft page listing keystrokes for all Skype versions (pick your tab
from near the bottom):
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype
Microsoft page listing Windows keyboard shortcuts, a few of which are
relevant to Skype UWP users:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/12445/windows-keyboard-shortcuts


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Re: Official word on Skype 7 for Windows

Octavian Rasnita
 

Hi Doug,

Can you summarize which are the important features in Skype 7 which are missing from the 2 new Skype versions?
I think that it might be helpful to sent that list of missing features to MS and ask them to allow us use Skype 7 until those important features will be also available in the new versions.

Thank you again for your work.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@dlee.org>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 12:50 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Official word on Skype 7 for Windows


I asked of the official @SkypeSupport Twitter account yesterday:

doug_lee42:@SkypeSupport Do I understand correctly: 1. Skype 7 is being retired currently. 2. Skype 7 is not available from Microsoft. 3. Skype 7 will work for now if you can find it or already run it. 4. Skype 7 will continue
to work that way until sometime after an a deadline yet to be announced. [https://twitter.com/doug_lee42/status/968985102591168514]

Their answer today I consider definitive:

SkypeSupport:@doug_lee42 You are 100% spot on. [https://twitter.com/SkypeSupport/status/969331816258818048]

So if you can find it, and you can install it, you can use it, for now; but you can no longer get it from Microsoft, i.e., skype.com.

To the extent I, with my small hands and single voice, can do it, I wish to hold them to that announcement, so that we can know, with some warning, when Skype 7 will actually stop working.

Meanwhile, if you feel you're ready, go ahead and play with Skype UWP if you're using Windows 10, or Skype 8, the Electron app, if you're using Windows 8.1, 7, etc.

Screen reader support pointers, just so they're all here in one place:

JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/
Windows 10 App Essentials addon, an NVDA addon that helps with Skype UWP and other Windows 10 apps: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

JAWS scripts for Skype 8 (Electron app): http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
NVDA addon for Skype 8: Ahem... that would be a twinkle in my eye that I hope to make a project soon. :)

Legacy scripts for Skype 7: http://www.dlee.org/skype/
NVDA support for Skype 7: Built in as an app module, part of NVDA itself.

Microsoft page listing keystrokes for all Skype versions (pick your tab from near the bottom): https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype
Microsoft page listing Windows keyboard shortcuts, a few of which are relevant to Skype UWP users: https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/12445/windows-keyboard-shortcuts


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Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't.
(02/05/2010)


Official word on Skype 7 for Windows

Doug Lee
 

I asked of the official @SkypeSupport Twitter account yesterday:

doug_lee42:@SkypeSupport Do I understand correctly: 1. Skype 7 is being retired currently. 2. Skype 7 is not available from Microsoft. 3. Skype 7 will work for now if you can find it or already run it. 4. Skype 7 will continue
to work that way until sometime after an a deadline yet to be announced. [https://twitter.com/doug_lee42/status/968985102591168514]

Their answer today I consider definitive:

SkypeSupport:@doug_lee42 You are 100% spot on. [https://twitter.com/SkypeSupport/status/969331816258818048]

So if you can find it, and you can install it, you can use it, for now; but you can no longer get it from Microsoft, i.e., skype.com.

To the extent I, with my small hands and single voice, can do it, I wish to hold them to that announcement, so that we can know, with some warning, when Skype 7 will actually stop working.

Meanwhile, if you feel you're ready, go ahead and play with Skype UWP if you're using Windows 10, or Skype 8, the Electron app, if you're using Windows 8.1, 7, etc.

Screen reader support pointers, just so they're all here in one place:

JAWS scripts for Skype UWP for Windows 10: http://www.dlee.org/skype/uwp/
Windows 10 App Essentials addon, an NVDA addon that helps with Skype UWP and other Windows 10 apps: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

JAWS scripts for Skype 8 (Electron app): http://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/
NVDA addon for Skype 8: Ahem... that would be a twinkle in my eye that I hope to make a project soon. :)

Legacy scripts for Skype 7: http://www.dlee.org/skype/
NVDA support for Skype 7: Built in as an app module, part of NVDA itself.

Microsoft page listing keystrokes for all Skype versions (pick your tab from near the bottom): https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype
Microsoft page listing Windows keyboard shortcuts, a few of which are relevant to Skype UWP users: https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/help/12445/windows-keyboard-shortcuts


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Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't.
(02/05/2010)


Re: skype versions and scripts

Doug Lee
 

Skype 8, which I call Skype Electron sometimes, is the intended replacement for Skype 7 on Windows versions older than Windows 10. Skype UWP is the intended replacement for Skype 7 on Windows 10. Microsoft is retiring Skype 7
although we don't have a timeline indicating when it will stop working. To my knowledge though, Skype 7 is no longer on the skype.com website, and Microsoft @SkypeSupport personnel on Twitter are telling people that Microsoft
can no longer provide that version for download.

On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 07:55:16PM +1030, Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi. Using the classic skype 7.4 with jaws 2018. Did try the windows 10
metro app a few months back and was not too bad. I am a member of a
student group, the lecturer, course I am doing from
[1]http://www.upskilled.edu.au certificate iv interactive gaming and
digital media. So, what does all the different versions, what's skype
eletron. And did have the skype app for windows 10, and did not find it
too bad. So my question is:

Do I keep the old classic skype, migrate to the new metro app and get
the skype upw ascripts and what's eletron. Understand skype for
business, if for business owners and do have that as part of my office
2016 32 bit, but have not used that, got the skype classic app from
[2]http://www.ninite.com, so, any ideas, any help, if Microsoft is
retiring it, which version to go to and which one will work with jaws
2018, which I use as my main screen reader, and also nvda works quite
well.

Thanks.

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skype versions and scripts

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. Using the classic skype 7.4 with jaws 2018. Did try the windows 10 metro app a few months back and was not too bad. I am a member of a student group, the lecturer, course I am doing from http://www.upskilled.edu.au certificate iv interactive gaming and digital media. So, what does all the different versions, what’s skype eletron. And did have the skype app for windows 10, and did not find it too bad. So my question is:

Do I keep the old classic skype, migrate to the new metro app and get the skype upw ascripts and what’s eletron. Understand skype for business, if for business owners and do have that as part of my office 2016 32 bit, but have not used that, got the skype classic app from http://www.ninite.com, so, any ideas, any help, if Microsoft is retiring it, which version to go to and which one will work with jaws 2018, which I use as my main screen reader, and also nvda works quite well.

Thanks.


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