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Re: Have anyone sent feedback to MS?

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

What is option 1? Answer me offlist if you wish at:

lino.jr@...

Thanks.

On 8/31/2017 4:23 PM, James Malone wrote:
Try (800)936-5900. Don't press option1.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
stewartross
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:42 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?

has anyone got a fone number for microsoft that i can call from the uk?
from the ross meister
www.laserhothits.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Malone" <malone_j@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?


You can go to Microsoft.com to create an account, or call (800)936-5900 to
have them create it for you. (Don't) hit option 1. This is a free call.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
stewartross
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:21 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?

hi how do i get in to my account
do i have to have a microsoft acount?
how and where do i get one?
stew
from the ross meister
www.laserhothits.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?


Actually I was wondering the same thing. I don't think there is a way to
do
this as their forums are a mess in regard to posting and accessibility.
They

used to be good two years ago but now they've gone down the crapper..

Take care all
On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
wrote:

Hi all. Has any of you sent feedback to MS for the Skype IOS app? I knew
the changes were coming, but the current Skype for IOS is a mess. My only
gripe with the WIN 10 UWP app is the audio quality is like Skype for IOS
which is not as clear as Skype Classic.
















Hi from Denmark

Brian Olesen
 

HI all,

Well I’ve been on this list for quite some time now, and I certainly appreciate it.I hope you all saw the new updates for the scripts for Skype that will handle the Jaws 2018 beta.

 

Best regards

Brian


Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Jerry Pryde
 

Thanks, Tom.
I actually forgot about that, and have it in my skype out contacts.
Most 800 numbers work on skype.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kaufman
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 12:22 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

I don't know if my post went through or not, so am just replying to this
post here: Microsoft has a disability number that you might want to try;
that number is: 1-800-936-5900.
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jerry Pryde
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:47 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Well, in that case, let's bombard them with concerns about skype and
accessability.
you might be right, Octavian.
If enough of us give them a mygrane, it might work.
Jerry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:25 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Well, I contacted Microsoft's tech support for OneDrive a few weeks ago, and
they answered and were very nice.
OneDrive is paid and Skype is not, but the cost for OneDrive is pretty
cheap, so I don't think that cost made them be so nice. :-)

You may be right that they don't care and that they won't answer, but it
doesn't matter if they answer or not. We don't need their answer. We need to
make them care, and if more blind people will start complaining, they might
be thinking that this is a problem and they might start caring.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Pryde" <jpryde1@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Don't waste your time contacting microsoft, especially via email.
They don't reply, and they don't care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we
can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype
might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion










Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Tom Kaufman
 

I don't know if my post went through or not, so am just replying to this
post here: Microsoft has a disability number that you might want to try;
that number is: 1-800-936-5900.
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jerry Pryde
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:47 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Well, in that case, let's bombard them with concerns about skype and
accessability.
you might be right, Octavian.
If enough of us give them a mygrane, it might work.
Jerry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:25 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Well, I contacted Microsoft's tech support for OneDrive a few weeks ago, and
they answered and were very nice.
OneDrive is paid and Skype is not, but the cost for OneDrive is pretty
cheap, so I don't think that cost made them be so nice. :-)

You may be right that they don't care and that they won't answer, but it
doesn't matter if they answer or not. We don't need their answer. We need to
make them care, and if more blind people will start complaining, they might
be thinking that this is a problem and they might start caring.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Pryde" <jpryde1@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Don't waste your time contacting microsoft, especially via email.
They don't reply, and they don't care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we
can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype
might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion










Re: Have anyone sent feedback to MS?

matthew dyer
 

Hi,

I have tried the skype Motern app and my only problem with it is that there
is no way to except an incoming call like in the desktop app. I am
currently using the desktop app for now. Thanks.

Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
James Malone
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 4:23 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?

Try (800)936-5900. Don't press option1.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
stewartross
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:42 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?

has anyone got a fone number for microsoft that i can call from the uk?
from the ross meister
www.laserhothits.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Malone" <malone_j@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?


You can go to Microsoft.com to create an account, or call (800)936-5900 to
have them create it for you. (Don't) hit option 1. This is a free call.

-----Original Message-----
From: skypeenglish@groups.io [mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io] On Behalf Of
stewartross
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:21 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?

hi how do i get in to my account
do i have to have a microsoft acount?
how and where do i get one?
stew
from the ross meister
www.laserhothits.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Have anyone sent feedback to MS?


Actually I was wondering the same thing. I don't think there is a way to
do
this as their forums are a mess in regard to posting and accessibility.
They

used to be good two years ago but now they've gone down the crapper..

Take care all
On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
wrote:

Hi all. Has any of you sent feedback to MS for the Skype IOS app? I knew
the changes were coming, but the current Skype for IOS is a mess. My only
gripe with the WIN 10 UWP app is the audio quality is like Skype for IOS
which is not as clear as Skype Classic.













Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Octavian Rasnita
 

Yep. But where to send the bombs? :)

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Pryde" <jpryde1@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Well, in that case, let's bombard them with concerns about skype and accessability.
you might be right, Octavian.
If enough of us give them a mygrane, it might work.
Jerry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:25 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Well, I contacted Microsoft's tech support for OneDrive a few weeks ago, and
they answered and were very nice.
OneDrive is paid and Skype is not, but the cost for OneDrive is pretty
cheap, so I don't think that cost made them be so nice. :-)

You may be right that they don't care and that they won't answer, but it
doesn't matter if they answer or not. We don't need their answer. We need to
make them care, and if more blind people will start complaining, they might
be thinking that this is a problem and they might start caring.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Pryde" <jpryde1@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Don't waste your time contacting microsoft, especially via email.
They don't reply, and they don't care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we
can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype
might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion














Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

inam din
 

Dear friends,

Today I’m very sad because today I installed Skype preview for desktop but it didn’t recognize my Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1.

instead off that,  I was forced to give it my Microsoft ID.

The matter of concern for me is that I like my Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1 very much and in case of using Skype preview I must forget my Skype ID forever and will have to use my Microsoft account!

It’s very sad and very bad.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

When the power of love overcomes the love of power
then the world know what is peace!
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...
outlook:
inam092@...
add me on my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
meet me on my facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786
follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1
call me on my cell phones:
+92-334-3348409
+92-300-2227598

 

From: Jerry Pryde
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 6:47 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

 

Well, in that case, let's bombard them with concerns about skype and
accessability.
you might be right, Octavian.
If enough of us give them a mygrane, it might work.
Jerry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:25 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Well, I contacted Microsoft's tech support for OneDrive a few weeks ago, and
they answered and were very nice.
OneDrive is paid and Skype is not, but the cost for OneDrive is pretty
cheap, so I don't think that cost made them be so nice. :-)

You may be right that they don't care and that they won't answer, but it
doesn't matter if they answer or not. We don't need their answer. We need to
make them care, and if more blind people will start complaining, they might
be thinking that this is a problem and they might start caring.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Pryde" <jpryde1@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


> Don't waste your time contacting microsoft, especially via email.
> They don't reply, and they don't care.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Octavian Rasnita
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 PM
> To: skypeenglish@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop
>
> Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we
> can complain about this change?
> If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype
> might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.
>
> --Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
> To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
> Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop
>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> Strange  enough  that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
>> didn't see any mention)... anyway.
>> Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
>> https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
>> Those  of  you  who  did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
>> already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
>> get a look on what's going in there.
>> In  short:  it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
>> best  for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
>> tiny  bits  that  cannot  be  reached.  But it is one single web-based
>> window  with  no  possibility  to separate chats in any way. More than
>> that,  there  are  virtually  no  settings, no sound selection between
>> modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
>> impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
>> remain  in  a  call  window when in a voice conversation, because when
>> someone  else  calls  you - boom, you are out of that window where the
>> hang up button is.
>> So  is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
>> because  when  my  boss  would  send  me a message, I won't be able to
>> quickly  find  his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
>> page.  Most  like  Slack,  if  you  get  what I mean. And yes, it does
>> consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
>> Microsoft  says  our  good  old  Skype  is about to die since this new
>> beast-thing  can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
>> it on a Windows 7 PC).
>> I  think  we  need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
>> Microsoft  and  to  ask  them  to  do something with it: either not to
>> discontinue  the  good  old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
>> that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
>> like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
>> If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.
>>
>> --
>> With best regards from Ukraine,
>> Andre
>> Skype: menelion_elensule
>> Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





 


re ok i have a microsoft account

stewartross
 

as the subject says
got a microsoft account
the problem is that wen i open skype on me i fone 5 s,
it keeps bringing my new account which i linked to my mobile number which i want to deleete
how can i change it back to me old profile
which now works with me microsoft account?
from stew
from the ross meister
www.laserhothits.co.uk


Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Jerry Pryde
 

Well, in that case, let's bombard them with concerns about skype and accessability.
you might be right, Octavian.
If enough of us give them a mygrane, it might work.
Jerry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 9:25 AM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Well, I contacted Microsoft's tech support for OneDrive a few weeks ago, and
they answered and were very nice.
OneDrive is paid and Skype is not, but the cost for OneDrive is pretty
cheap, so I don't think that cost made them be so nice. :-)

You may be right that they don't care and that they won't answer, but it
doesn't matter if they answer or not. We don't need their answer. We need to
make them care, and if more blind people will start complaining, they might
be thinking that this is a problem and they might start caring.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Pryde" <jpryde1@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Don't waste your time contacting microsoft, especially via email.
They don't reply, and they don't care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we
can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype
might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion










Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Octavian Rasnita
 

Well, I contacted Microsoft's tech support for OneDrive a few weeks ago, and they answered and were very nice.
OneDrive is paid and Skype is not, but the cost for OneDrive is pretty cheap, so I don't think that cost made them be so nice. :-)

You may be right that they don't care and that they won't answer, but it doesn't matter if they answer or not. We don't need their answer. We need to make them care, and if more blind people will start complaining, they might be thinking that this is a problem and they might start caring.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Pryde" <jpryde1@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Don't waste your time contacting microsoft, especially via email.
They don't reply, and they don't care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we
can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype
might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion









Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Jerry Pryde
 

Don't waste your time contacting microsoft, especially via email.
They don't reply, and they don't care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 PM
To: skypeenglish@groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we
can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype
might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion




monthly rules message, Fri, 9/1/17 #cal-notice

skypeenglish@groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

monthly rules message

When:
Friday, 1 September 2017

Description:

Hello all. It's that time again, where a reminder is sent out  once a month regarding the rules so here they are.
 
Hello to all.  Hear is this month's reminder of the Skype English rules. taken right from the welcome message
 
Hello an welcome to the Skype English list. Here our goal is to have fun discussing various things related to skype and the screen 
readers such as jaws and others.  Remember the following:
 
1. flaming of any kind, virus warnings, spam, or anything off topic will not be tolerated.
 
2. Posting in HTML is aloud, but no links will work. The message will hopefully be converted to plain text. Let me know if you see 
any attachments. i doubt you will.
 
3. Absolutely no attachments are aloud on this list. Security comes first and this will minimize the chance of viruses spreading.
 
4. Keep all intro threads to at least 3  or 4 messages before the thread is taken off list. That way we don't drift off topic. I 
know this is going to be hard for most of us including this mod here but if we keep the  messages on topic the archives will look 
a lot cleaner and people will be able to find info on what they need.
 
5. speaking of clean archives absolutely no discussion of anything other then Skype and its use with screen readers will be tolerated on this list.  If the admin notices any other topics such as google talk on this list they will close the thread immediately. I hate to do this but this is to keep the archives easier to find for old members as well as new ones.
6. When you first join this list it's normally customary to send out an intro message.  Since this list is growing by leaps and bounds this will cease and desist.  The new comer will now  if they want to send out a question regarding the scripts, skype, gw connect, anything that this list covers. any "hello" messages and "I'm new. here is my info" messages will no longer be tolerated.  We want to keep the searchable archives at the mail archive as clean as possible.
 
7. Have  fun and happy skyping.
 
Take care all.


Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm not in the insider program for skype, but if anyone is, maybe try contacting them there, and leaving feedback? I don't think this will help but it might be a step in the right direction

On Aug 31, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange  enough  that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those  of  you  who  did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In  short:  it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best  for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny  bits  that  cannot  be  reached.  But it is one single web-based
window  with  no  possibility  to separate chats in any way. More than
that,  there  are  virtually  no  settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain  in  a  call  window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone  else  calls  you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So  is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because  when  my  boss  would  send  me a message, I won't be able to
quickly  find  his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page.  Most  like  Slack,  if  you  get  what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft  says  our  good  old  Skype  is about to die since this new
beast-thing  can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I  think  we  need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft  and  to  ask  them  to  do something with it: either not to
discontinue  the  good  old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

-- 
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion






Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Octavian Rasnita
 

Does anyone know if Microsoft has an email address or a web page where we can complain about this change?
If the new Skype would be considered good for Windows 7, the classic Skype might disappear much time before the support for Windows 7 ends.

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Polykanine" <andre@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 2:25 AM
Subject: [skypeenglish] Skype Preview for Desktop


Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion



Re: admin: groups.io support address: attached

Jerry Pryde
 

Sarah:
There’s no attachment her, but the links look helpful.
Thanks billions.
Jerry.
 

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:23 PM
Subject: [skypeenglish] admin: groups.io support address: attached
 
Hello. Thanks to someone on the older list,  I have the support address for groups.io. If you need to contact them for any reason, they are wonderful to deal with and  they are working to make the transition as smooth as possible. The following VCard is attached I hope it can be accessed by all who are on the list. I will be sending a reminder later next month for all who might have missed it.
 
Thanks.
 


Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Shaun Oliver
 

near as I can figure, you can still get the desktop app.

I'm not overly fond of the new interface either. it to my mind is very messy and cluttered.


It's geared primarily more towards tablet use and just don't feel right to me.

On 1/09/2017 09:13, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I know someone running the preview. It sucks, and I'm very worried that once I get the update to me I'm going to hate it. Has anyone contacted microsoft aregarding this as I might be out of a job if I cannot use skype at all as that's how I teach my classes.

Take care and be blessed.
On Aug 31, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Andre Polykanine <andre@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion




Re: Skype Preview for Desktop

Sarah k Alawami
 

I know someone running the preview. It sucks, and I'm very worried that once I get the update to me I'm going to hate it. Has anyone contacted microsoft aregarding this as I might be out of a job if I cannot use skype at all as that's how I teach my classes.

Take care and be blessed.

On Aug 31, 2017, at 4:25 PM, Andre Polykanine <andre@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion




Skype Preview for Desktop

Andre Polykanine
 

Hi everyone,
Strange enough that two weeks passed and nobody spoke about it (or I
didn't see any mention)... anyway.
Microsoft brings its (rather ugly) new Skype experience to desktops:
https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/08/17/hello-desktops-meet-skype-preview/
Those of you who did see newest Skype versions on mobile platforms
already have the happy (where is my irony punctuation?) opportunity to
get a look on what's going in there.
In short: it is an Electron-based application. Microsoft did all its
best for its accessibility, and it is really 90% accessible with some
tiny bits that cannot be reached. But it is one single web-based
window with no possibility to separate chats in any way. More than
that, there are virtually no settings, no sound selection between
modern and classic, no font size selection for our sighted or visually
impaired fellows with remaining vision, nothing. You can't even surely
remain in a call window when in a voice conversation, because when
someone else calls you - boom, you are out of that window where the
hang up button is.
So is it accessible? Yes, mostly. but is it usable? No, should I say,
because when my boss would send me a message, I won't be able to
quickly find his message, because... well, because it's one huge web
page. Most like Slack, if you get what I mean. And yes, it does
consume memory like a monster, both on mobile and on desktop.
Microsoft says our good old Skype is about to die since this new
beast-thing can be installed on Windows lower than ten (I did install
it on a Windows 7 PC).
I think we need to discuss it thoroughly here and probably write to
Microsoft and to ask them to do something with it: either not to
discontinue the good old Skype we love or to provide us with an API
that would allow us to develop our own client with basic functionality
like audio calls, IM and file sending/receiving.
If you have read this far, thank you very much for your attention.

--
With best regards from Ukraine,
Andre
Skype: menelion_elensule
Twitter: @m_elensule; Facebook: menelion


Re: email address unsubscription

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello. No everyone will be unsubscribed when the list closes. All I need to do is hit the delete button and that's pretty much it.

Take care and be blessed.

On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Timothy Appleby <tim.appleby@...> wrote:

HI list. I’d like to find out if my other email address timappleby@... will be automatically be unsubscribed from the old list serv once it has closed.

 

If so, I won’t have to worry about it.

 

Thanks in advance;

 

Timothy Appleby



email address unsubscription

Timothy Appleby <tim.appleby@...>
 

HI list. I’d like to find out if my other email address timappleby@... will be automatically be unsubscribed from the old list serv once it has closed.

 

If so, I won’t have to worry about it.

 

Thanks in advance;

 

Timothy Appleby

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