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Group Notification <noreply@...>
 

Hello all. It's that time again, where a reminder is sent out  once a month regarding the rules so here they are.
 
Hello to all.  Hear is this month's reminder of the Skype English rules. taken right from the welcome message
 
Hello and welcome to the Skype English list. Here our goal is to have fun discussing various things related to skype and the screen 
readers such as jaws and others.  Remember the following:
 
1. flaming of any kind, virus warnings, spam, or anything off topic will not be tolerated.
 
2. Posting in HTML is aloud, but no links will work. The message will hopefully be converted to plain text. Let me know if you see 
any attachments. i doubt you will.
 
3. Absolutely no attachments are aloud on this list. Security comes first and this will minimize the chance of viruses spreading.
 
4. Keep all intro threads to at least 3  or 4 messages before the thread is taken off list. That way we don't drift off topic. I 
know this is going to be hard for most of us including this mod here but if we keep the  messages on topic the archives will look 
a lot cleaner and people will be able to find info on what they need.
 
5. speaking of clean archives absolutely no discussion of anything other than Skype and its use with screen readers will be tolerated on this list.  If the admin notices any other topics such as google talk on this list they will close the thread immediately. I hate to do this but this is to keep the archives easier to find for old members as well as new ones.
6. When you first join this list it's normally customary to send out an intro message.  Since this list is growing by leaps and bounds this will cease and desist.  The new comer will now  if they want to send out a question regarding the scripts, skype, gw connect, anything that this list covers. any "hello" messages and "I'm new. here is my info" messages will no longer be tolerated.  We want to keep the searchable archives at the mail archive as clean as possible.
 
7. Before you post your question(s) to the list,  please search the group archives or do a google search. This prevents the cycle of repeated messages. It also teaches you the user to search before asking for help. Oly when you have exhausted yoru resources should you come to this list. We get a lot of messages, so the archives are full of stuff dating back to at least 2005.
 
. Have  fun and happy skyping.
 
 
Failure to abide by any of these rules, especially the last one, will get you 3 strikes then the member is band from said list.
Take care all.


Re: Skype script revision 226 released, with notable date handling changes during chat message navigation

Michele Barbi
 

Allright Doug, thanks for your explanation.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Octavian Rasnita
 

Hi Sarah,

The languages of Windows, JAWS and Skype are all English, so this should not be a problem.

As Doug said, probably Windows 11 is the cause.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list


What language do you have your skype in?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:33 AM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Hello,

I just update to this last version of the scripts but I still have the same issue with it, as before.
I've seen that after typing a message in Skype's chat, that text can't be read using left/right arrows.
JAWS doesn't speak anything when pressing the left or right arrows.
If I press the backspace key, JAWS speaks "T" each time, but not the current letter.
But the text is there and I can select it and deleted if I want to do that.
However I can't review and eventually correct it there.

I use JAWS 2022.2207. And, probably more important, Windows 11.
Is this working for you, or there is something that needs to be done in order to be able to read the written text?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michele Barbi" <barbi.michele@...>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list


Wow, your fix with revision 224 is working! Yay! Thanks a lot!

Only thing is, Google Chrome and also SmartScreen complained about the
file, I just clicked run anyway and it updated the scripts correctly.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype script revision 226 released, with notable date handling changes during chat message navigation

Doug Lee
 

For anyone else curious, my reasons for the big change in chat message date handling, in no particular order:

Ease of finding out the date of a message if many occurred on the same date (the [ D sequence is new).

Annoyance at the JAWS stutter on navigating across a date boundary in older scripts. This was caused by my
having to navigate, abort the default announcement, announce the date, and then re-do the normal message
announcement.

Annoyance at having to wait through full dates before I could hear a message's content, especially in
conversations where most days consisted of only one or two messages.

A few users over time commenting that they were confused by my "Leaving ..." announcements.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 10:10:31PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Allright Doug, I updated to this revision, many thanks! Don't know why you
decided for a radical system change, but at least it works.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype script revision 226 released, with notable date handling changes during chat message navigation

Michele Barbi
 

Allright Doug, I updated to this revision, many thanks! Don't know why you decided for a radical system change, but at least it works.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Skype script revision 226 released, with notable date handling changes during chat message navigation

Doug Lee
 

I have released revision 226 of the JAWS Skype scripts. Release notes at https://www.dlee.org/skype/#hist and
download link available in that document as usual.

Besides making date announcement work in Skype 8.88, this revision revamps the method of handling dates during
navigation among messages:

You can read the current message's date with the key sequence [ D.

When you arrow up or down across a date boundary, a short sound will play and the date will be announced after
the message you reached. This redesign speeds navigation, avoids a stutter issue, prevents long dates from
slowing announcement of messages, avoids "Leaving ..." announcements and confusion over which date is current,
and still makes recognition of boundary crossings very efficient.


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Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Michele Barbi
 

Guys I did not upgrade my system to Windows 11, as my pc is not compatible, and because of doubts concerning the compatibility of RadioBoss which I normally use for my weekend program. Anyway, I did not test the left/right arrows, but possibly it's while typing. What I meant is the dates sections while reading chat messages lists, which I do using the Skype command key followed by h.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't have skype on this machine, well, I do but am not signed in so
cannot test at this point. Let's gather more data points. Anyone else having
this issue, please list yore windows version and build number.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Doug Lee
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:59 AM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

My Left and Right arrows work in Skype 8.8.0 and previous versions, and in
script revision 224 and previous revisions.

I also use JAWS 2022 but Windows 10; I do not have a Windows 11 environment
set up here. I suspect you're right that the Windows version is the key
factor.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 08:32:45PM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hello,

I just update to this last version of the scripts but I still have the same
issue with it, as before.
I've seen that after typing a message in Skype's chat, that text can't be
read using left/right arrows.
JAWS doesn't speak anything when pressing the left or right arrows.
If I press the backspace key, JAWS speaks "T" each time, but not the current
letter.
But the text is there and I can select it and deleted if I want to do that.
However I can't review and eventually correct it there.

I use JAWS 2022.2207. And, probably more important, Windows 11.
Is this working for you, or there is something that needs to be done in
order to be able to read the written text?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Barbi" <barbi.michele@...>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list


Wow, your fix with revision 224 is working! Yay! Thanks a lot!

Only thing is, Google Chrome and also SmartScreen complained about the file,
I just clicked run anyway and it updated the scripts correctly.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Sarah k Alawami
 

What language do you have your skype in?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:33 AM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Hello,

I just update to this last version of the scripts but I still have the same issue with it, as before.
I've seen that after typing a message in Skype's chat, that text can't be read using left/right arrows.
JAWS doesn't speak anything when pressing the left or right arrows.
If I press the backspace key, JAWS speaks "T" each time, but not the current letter.
But the text is there and I can select it and deleted if I want to do that.
However I can't review and eventually correct it there.

I use JAWS 2022.2207. And, probably more important, Windows 11.
Is this working for you, or there is something that needs to be done in order to be able to read the written text?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michele Barbi" <barbi.michele@...>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list


Wow, your fix with revision 224 is working! Yay! Thanks a lot!

Only thing is, Google Chrome and also SmartScreen complained about the
file, I just clicked run anyway and it updated the scripts correctly.

Bye!

Barbuz

--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Doug Lee
 

My Left and Right arrows work in Skype 8.8.0 and previous versions, and in script revision 224 and previous
revisions.

I also use JAWS 2022 but Windows 10; I do not have a Windows 11 environment set up here. I suspect you're
right that the Windows version is the key factor.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 08:32:45PM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hello,

I just update to this last version of the scripts but I still have the same
issue with it, as before.
I've seen that after typing a message in Skype's chat, that text can't be
read using left/right arrows.
JAWS doesn't speak anything when pressing the left or right arrows.
If I press the backspace key, JAWS speaks "T" each time, but not the current
letter.
But the text is there and I can select it and deleted if I want to do that.
However I can't review and eventually correct it there.

I use JAWS 2022.2207. And, probably more important, Windows 11.
Is this working for you, or there is something that needs to be done in
order to be able to read the written text?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Barbi" <barbi.michele@...>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list


Wow, your fix with revision 224 is working! Yay! Thanks a lot!

Only thing is, Google Chrome and also SmartScreen complained about the
file, I just clicked run anyway and it updated the scripts correctly.

Bye!

Barbuz

--
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A mailing list is like a car where brakes and accelerator are the same pedal:
The effect of putting your foot down is a bit hard to predict! (04/04/2012)


Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Octavian Rasnita
 

Hello,

I just update to this last version of the scripts but I still have the same issue with it, as before.
I've seen that after typing a message in Skype's chat, that text can't be
read using left/right arrows.
JAWS doesn't speak anything when pressing the left or right arrows.
If I press the backspace key, JAWS speaks "T" each time, but not the current
letter.
But the text is there and I can select it and deleted if I want to do that.
However I can't review and eventually correct it there.

I use JAWS 2022.2207. And, probably more important, Windows 11.
Is this working for you, or there is something that needs to be done in
order to be able to read the written text?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michele Barbi" <barbi.michele@...>
To: <main@skypeenglish.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list


Wow, your fix with revision 224 is working! Yay! Thanks a lot!

Only thing is, Google Chrome and also SmartScreen complained about the
file, I just clicked run anyway and it updated the scripts correctly.

Bye!

Barbuz

--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Michele Barbi
 

Wow, your fix with revision 224 is working! Yay! Thanks a lot!

Only thing is, Google Chrome and also SmartScreen complained about the file, I just clicked run anyway and it updated the scripts correctly.

Bye!

Barbuz

--
Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Doug Lee
 

There is now a fix at https://www.dlee.org/updates/jfw_skype.exe that I have not yet formally released.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 10:39:21AM -0400, Doug Lee wrote:
I noticed it yesterday and wrote it down for addressing. Thanks for confirming when it started. :)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 04:36:38PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi there, using Skype 8.88, JAWS 2022 latest build, and scripts revision 2022.
When scrolling a messages list in a chat window in split view mode, it no
longer reads the dates, it only says "leaving". Did any other user notice this
issue?

Doug, is there anything you can do via scripting for it?

Bye!

Barbuz


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Re: Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Doug Lee
 

I noticed it yesterday and wrote it down for addressing. Thanks for confirming when it started. :)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 04:36:38PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
Hi there, using Skype 8.88, JAWS 2022 latest build, and scripts revision 2022.
When scrolling a messages list in a chat window in split view mode, it no
longer reads the dates, it only says "leaving". Did any other user notice this
issue?

Doug, is there anything you can do via scripting for it?

Bye!

Barbuz


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what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with
them while they do it."--Theodore Roosevelt


Skype 8.88, date no longer read in messages list

Michele Barbi
 

Hi there, using Skype 8.88, JAWS 2022 latest build, and scripts revision 2022. When scrolling a messages list in a chat window in split view mode, it no longer reads the dates, it only says "leaving". Did any other user notice this issue?

Doug, is there anything you can do via scripting for it?

Bye!

Barbuz

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Inviato da Thunderbird su Windows 10


Re: Skype 8.88 for iPhone ringing when closed

Michele Barbi
 

I actually was able to prevent this from happening but I can't remember how at this time...

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Skype 8.88 for iPhone ringing when closed

 

Hi Michelle, this is been this way for quite some time. I can't recall when it started. But it was definitely before iOS 10.

On Sep 6, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...> wrote:

Hi guys, as in subject, I am encountering this situation since I upgraded Skype on my iPhone to 8.88. Even if I log out and close Skype from applications switcher, Skype is ringing when receiving a call. I don't remember if some notifications settings has been misconfigured or something like that happened, can someone help recalling me that?

Bye!

Barbuz

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Skype 8.88 for iPhone ringing when closed

Michele Barbi
 

Hi guys, as in subject, I am encountering this situation since I upgraded Skype on my iPhone to 8.88. Even if I log out and close Skype from applications switcher, Skype is ringing when receiving a call. I don't remember if some notifications settings has been misconfigured or something like that happened, can someone help recalling me that?

Bye!

Barbuz

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Latest Skype version and contacts

Michele Barbi
 

Hi guys, using Skype 8.83.0.409 for Windows desktop, and I am encountering a strange situation. I see a few contacts online, and I have to restart Skype in order to make them grow up. Do some of you enconuter a similar issue, and is there a way to prevent this from happening?

Note that I only checked available contacts, since the alternative would be to have the list in alphabetical order and I don't like it, maybe because when I began to use Skype 8.x I was used to the classic version.

Bye!

Barbuz

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Re: Weird issues with skype

Sarah k Alawami
 

Honestly I would have not thought about the router. Keep an eye on it for the next few days as your situation might or might not be resolved.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@skypeenglish.groups.io <main@skypeenglish.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 12:38 AM
To: main@skypeenglish.groups.io
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Weird issues with skype

Hi everyone.

I am not sure what gave me the idea, but I decided to reboot the router and Voila! Skype is working again.

Talk about a reason to get white hairs! lol

Again, thank you to all of you for your kind assistance!

Best,
Tali

On 5/19/22, Tali Sarnetzky via groups.io <tali.sarnetzky@...> wrote:
Hi.

My Skype Out is current and I can't even get to the fix you so kindly
offered, because the website does not come up. It gives me an error.

I might have to call Microsoft again...

On 5/19/22, Michele Barbi <barbi.michele@...> wrote:
Hey Tali and all, I figured out that there is an hotfix for Skype for
Windows desktop 8.83 ending with number 409, I cannot guarantee it
can fix your issue but it's worth a try. If you don't see the update
trhough Check for updates feature, try going here:
www.skype.com/go/getskype-full

Bye!

Barbuz

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