Re: Skype 7 to 8 upgrades underway apparently
Doug Lee
I have not kept up with Skype UWP recently since by far most people seem to be going to Skype 8 instead, admittedly contrary to my early expectations. I do know that Joseph Lee's Windows 10 App Essentials covers Skype UWP well
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enough for people to use it. I also believe, but have not tried to test in months, that Skype UWP is more full-featured but slower to respond than Skype 8.
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 04:11:01PM -0800, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I now also have the windows 10 essentials add on. I heard that skype is integrated into that, I mean some skype support. What changes do you know of for nvda users in regard to skype, or would I have to take this up with Joseph who is not to my knowledge on said list. Take care On 7 Jan 2019, at 15:52, Doug Lee wrote: I am hearing today that some people are being spontaneously upgraded from Skype 7 (Classic) to Skype 8 (Electron). I believe this is on Windows, but it would not surprise me if MacOS is also included. I assume this is one of those wave-by-wave Microsoft rollouts. If so, it is occurring a few months later than Microsoft announced it would at least. Perhaps useful resource reminders: JAWS scripts for Skype 8 are at [1]https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ These work with JAWS versions 17 and later. (The JAWS 17 limit is imposed by older JAWS versions not working well in general with Electron apps like Skype 8.) A simple NVDA add-on for Skype 8 is at [2]https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon To answer one frequently-asked question before it gets asked on this list: I did not implement Alt+numbers or Ctrl+numbers for reading chat messages in either JAWS or NVDA because of the way the chat history is organized in Skype 8. In short, I am not convinced that there is a reliable way for scripts or add-ons to announce the "last" message, because it can at any moment happen not to be on screen due to scrolling or message arrival without scrolling. My preferred way to read chat messages, in both JAWS and NVDA and Skype 8, is to Shift+Tab from the chat input box to the message list and then use arrows to move among messages. Skype 7 was a wonderful app for us. I find Skype 8 usable, slim, fast, and overall pretty efficient for my needs, though not as feature-rich as Skype 7. Our focus will now need to be on learning to use this newer Skype, and on helping Microsoft improve it as necessary. One final note, based on past message threads: Let us not diverge from here into a discussion of the merits of Skype 7 versus 8, the wisdom or folly of Microsoft's replacement of Skype 7, etc. That horse is so dead the the flies buzzed off half a year ago. :-) I instead wish for everyone the best possible experience with Skype 8, and I plan to remain active as necessary in addressing any issues with it that may appear in the future. -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org [3]http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com [4]http://www.LevelAccess.com "Never does the human soul appear so strong as when it foregoes revenge, and dares forgive an injury." --E. H. Chapin References 1. https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/ 2. https://www.dlee.org/skype/electron/skype.nvda-addon 3. http://www.dlee.org/ 4. http://www.LevelAccess.com/ 5. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/message/3607 6. mailto:skypeenglish@groups.io?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%207%20to%208%20upgrades%20underway%20apparently 7. mailto:marrie12@gmail.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bskypeenglish%5D%20Skype%207%20to%208%20upgrades%20underway%20apparently 8. https://groups.io/mt/28968654/409874 9. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/post 10. http://www.dlee.org/skype/ 11. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/editsub/409874 12. mailto:skypeenglish+owner@groups.io 13. https://groups.io/g/skypeenglish/leave/defanged -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Level Access doug.lee@LevelAccess.com http://www.LevelAccess.com "Maturity is knowing that the world owes you nothing. Freedom is knowing you owe it the same. Character is how you respond to the knowing." --Jack Kincaid
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