Dear Serah,
Thanks so much for speaking up!

the lack of development of tech for the blind isn't that the blind are a minority, there are millions of us around the world and we could be a very powerful economic demographic accept for one little fact.
What's the real minority is the number of blind people who are willing to use their own money to pay for their unique tech needs.

Skype is free!
Doug Lee's work creating, updating, and maintaining cutting edge Skype scripts is all free also.
heck, even membership in this community is free!
Maybe if we had to pay for Skype and the scripts to access it there would be fewer complaints

You and Doug and the other mods here also have personal lives and bills to pay outside of this forum.
Those who constantly complain contribute what? to this group?

There is a lot of tech not accessible by the blind, like your radio digital dials.  an and radio has been around for over 100 years!  LOL
Lets start an on-line group to complain about radio, and then TV, and then all the cars that the blind can't drive  or planes we can't fly yet! LOL

Thanks giving is a few days away, maybe it's time to be a little more thankful for what we have been blessed with rather than focused on what we feel entitled to have that we haven't received.

Mike in SC






At 12:09 PM 11/20/2018, you wrote:
minority

Then sit down, write your feedback to skype directly and not here. We have already heard it. If you you don't like it there is always zoom or the delete key. You tend to sound like a broken record and we are starting to not like it. You in this case and on this list are the minority as you are I hink the only one who is hating skype and its new ways. Either get used to it, get left behind, or leave. I'm speaking as a list member, not a mod.

Take care

On 19 Nov 2018, at 22:10, Octavian Rasnita wrote:


Yes you are right. We are a minority and we will always be disadvantaged because of this. This is what I am saying. But this doesn't mean that we shouldn't say this just because we can't change it.
Nothing will be changed in our favour if we all would continue to pretend that it is all right when it is not all right for all of us.
 
--Octavian

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Oliver

To: skypeenglish@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 1:07 AM

Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] New accessibility improvements in Skype 8.0 | Skype Blogs

that's not my point at all. in fact, you know what? forget it.

I'm done. Time and Time again, people have given you solutions and whatnot and other feedback to help you improve your efficiency with Skype, and you still complain that it is worse than what you had. build a bridge, get over it, The new Skype is here to stay, and no amount of belly aching on your part nor anybody else's will extend the life of Skype Classic. Microsoft have put it to bed, and rightly so. We, whether you like to admit it or not, are a minority, and we do not affect a major corperation's bottom line as much as we'd all wish we could, save for those to whom products are specifically designed and marketed towards us.

Whenever I see an email from you regarding Skype, it is a never ending litany of charges against it's ease of use, that it's worse than what you had, it's less accessible, it's less efficient, it's this, it's that, or it's the other.

That is why I say you should expend that energy you put in to thinking up and cmposing that litany of charges, in to learning Skype or whatever varients thereof, and actually be constructive and positive, instead of negative and disruptive.

We've heard every single complaint you've raised before, and reitterating them here, is not going to change what currently is. If you feel that strongly about it, contact the MS Disability Access Desk and kindly present them with your arguments.

*SMH*

On 20/11/2018 07:42, Octavian Rasnita wrote:



"Octavien, if you put as much energy in to learning the new skype as you do complaining about it, you'd have nothing to complain about.".

 

I already told you that this is not true. I put a lot of efforts in learning to use Windows 7, and I use it every day in the last years, but I still consider it worse and less accessible than Windows XP.

After I will learn to use Skype 8 I will be able to use it very well, but that "very well" would still be worse than using Skype 7 for me.

 

Don't think that all the people use the applications the same way you use them.

 

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Oliver

To: skypeenglish@groups.io

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:34 PM

Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] New accessibility improvements in Skype 8.0 | Skype Blogs

so do I, on both platforms, windows and mac. IOS and android, well, that's a whole other ballgame, but, it's certainly better than it ever was.

Octavien, if you put as much energy in to learning the new skype as you do complaining about it, you'd have nothing to complain about.

On 20/11/2018 05:54, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I don't mind the web inerface, in fact, I find myself navigating a lot faster in the web interface than the older interface but thats just me.

On 19 Nov 2018, at 9:49, Octavian Rasnita wrote:

Any improvement is good, but these are small improvements while bigger issues will never be solved.

 

The biggest issue: Skype 8 uses a web interface.

This issue might be worked around if the scripts will turn the virtual buffer off automaticly and it will use only the PC cursor, and of course, if this way Skype will be fully accessible this way.

 

The best news is that for the moment Skype 7 still works. Too bad that it will probably stop working soon.

 

--Octavian

----- Original Message -----

From: John Holcomb II

To: skypeenglish@groups.io

Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 7:29 PM

Subject: [skypeenglish] New accessibility improvements in Skype 8.0 | Skype Blogs

https://blogs.skype.com/news/2018/10/31/new-accessibility-improvements-in-skype-8-0/?utm_content=79383788&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter