LOL
I just read your note, Mike.
Perfect reasoning.
I tend to use what's available as long as it works.
But, when it doesn't, and I have to learn the new version, skype
for example, I'll do just that.
Sure: It's a pain in the butt. But, even in online life, stuff
happens, and us blind people just need to live in the real world,
and move on; even for a stubborn Canadian like me. LOL
I still say I should be able to buy a TV at half price, because,
I only use half of it; the audio. lol
On 20/11/2018 12:48 p.m., Mike DeZinno wrote:
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Dear Serah,
Thanks so much for speaking up!
the lack of development of tech for the blind isn't that the
blind are a
minority, there are millions of us around the world and we could
be a
very powerful economic demographic accept for one little fact.
What's the real minority is the number of blind people who are
willing to
use their own money to pay for their unique tech needs.
Skype is free!
Doug Lee's work creating, updating, and maintaining cutting edge
Skype
scripts is all free also.
heck, even membership in this community is free!
Maybe if we had to pay for Skype and the scripts to access it
there would
be fewer complaints
You and Doug and the other mods here also have personal lives
and bills
to pay outside of this forum.
Those who constantly complain contribute what? to this group?
There is a lot of tech not accessible by the blind, like your
radio
digital dials. an and radio has been around for over 100
years! LOL
Lets start an on-line group to complain about radio, and then
TV, and
then all the cars that the blind can't drive or planes we can't
fly
yet! LOL
Thanks giving is a few days away, maybe it's time to be a little
more
thankful for what we have been blessed with rather than focused
on what
we feel entitled to have that we haven't received.
Mike in SC
At 12:09 PM 11/20/2018, you wrote:
minority
Then
sit down, write your feedback
to skype directly and not here. We have already heard it. If
you you
don't like it there is always zoom or the delete key. You tend
to sound
like a broken record and we are starting to not like it. You
in this case
and on this list are the minority as you are I hink the only
one who is
hating skype and its new ways. Either get used to it, get left
behind, or
leave. I'm speaking as a list member, not a mod.
Take care
On 19 Nov 2018, at 22:10, Octavian Rasnita wrote:

Yes you are right. We are a
minority and
we will always be disadvantaged because of this. This is
what I am
saying. But this doesn't mean that we shouldn't say this
just because we
can't change it.
Nothing will be changed in our favour if we all would
continue to pretend
that it is all right when it is not all right for all of us.
--Octavian
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Shaun Oliver
- To: skypeenglish@groups.io
- Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 1:07 AM
- Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] New accessibility
improvements in Skype 8.0 | Skype Blogs
- that's not my point at all. in fact, you know what?
forget it.
- I'm done. Time and Time again, people have given you
solutions and whatnot and other feedback to help you
improve your efficiency with Skype, and you still complain
that it is worse than what you had. build a bridge, get
over it, The new Skype is here to stay, and no amount of
belly aching on your part nor anybody else's will extend
the life of Skype Classic. Microsoft have put it to bed,
and rightly so. We, whether you like to admit it or not,
are a minority, and we do not affect a major corperation's
bottom line as much as we'd all wish we could, save for
those to whom products are specifically designed and
marketed towards us.
- Whenever I see an email from you regarding Skype, it is
a never ending litany of charges against it's ease of use,
that it's worse than what you had, it's less accessible,
it's less efficient, it's this, it's that, or it's the
other.
- That is why I say you should expend that energy you put
in to thinking up and cmposing that litany of charges, in
to learning Skype or whatever varients thereof, and
actually be constructive and positive, instead of negative
and disruptive.
- We've heard every single complaint you've raised before,
and reitterating them here, is not going to change what
currently is. If you feel that strongly about it, contact
the MS Disability Access Desk and kindly present them with
your arguments.
- *SMH*
- On 20/11/2018 07:42, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
- 
- "Octavien, if you put as much energy in
to learning the new skype as you do complaining
about it, you'd have nothing to complain about.".
-
- I already told you that
this is not true. I put a lot of efforts in learning
to use Windows 7, and I use it every day in the last
years, but I still consider it worse and less
accessible than Windows XP.
- After I will learn to
use Skype 8 I will be able to use it very well, but
that "very well" would still be worse than using
Skype 7 for me.
-
- Don't think that all the
people use the applications the same way you use
them.
-
- --Octavian
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Shaun Oliver
- To: skypeenglish@groups.io
- Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 10:34 PM
- Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] New accessibility
improvements in Skype 8.0 | Skype Blogs
- so do I, on both platforms, windows and mac. IOS and
android, well, that's a whole other ballgame, but,
it's certainly better than it ever was.
- Octavien, if you put as much energy in to learning
the new skype as you do complaining about it, you'd
have nothing to complain about.
- On 20/11/2018 05:54, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
- I don't mind the web inerface, in fact, I find
myself navigating a lot faster in the web
interface than the older interface but thats just
me.
- On 19 Nov 2018, at 9:49, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
- Any improvement is
good, but these are small improvements while
bigger issues will never be solved.
-
- The biggest issue:
Skype 8 uses a web interface.
- This issue might be
worked around if the scripts will turn the
virtual buffer off automaticly and it will use
only the PC cursor, and of course, if this way
Skype will be fully accessible this way.
-
- The best news is
that for the moment Skype 7 still works. Too bad
that it will probably stop working soon.
-
- --Octavian
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: John Holcomb II
- To: skypeenglish@groups.io
- Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018
7:29 PM
- Subject: [skypeenglish] New
accessibility improvements in Skype 8.0 | Skype
Blogs
- https://blogs.skype.com/news/2018/10/31/new-accessibility-improvements-in-skype-8-0/?utm_content=79383788&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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