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100% more effort and time? Really?
How much effort and time do you put in to composing the emails
you do finding every negative thing you can? that's wasted energy
and effort that would have been better spent on learning
something, or better yet, composing missives to the developers and
entering in to civil discourse with them so you can see the
improvements you'd like taking place.
On 20/11/2018 16:57, Octavian Rasnita
I'm also tired to explain you
that not all the people have the same needs from the same
applications, because it seems that it is hard for you to
Pressing 2 keys instead of one
takes 100% more effort and time, so yes, is not OK for
If something is not perfect, we
should accept it as is, but we should also agree that is not
perfect and don't pretend that it is perfect and we should
tell only good things about it.
If you say that you are so tired,
then I'd have a recommendation for you... instead of telling
me to shut up, just because I don't have the same preferences
as yours. Why don't you shut up instead if it is so hard for
you to understand?
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20,
2018 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish]
New accessibility improvements in Skype 8.0 | Skype Blogs
again, this is where your quick nav keys for web interaction
come in to play. because you simply press e to enter your edit
field, and you're there. then tap your space bar to go in to
forms or brows mode, depending on your screenreader, then you
can type away.
It really is not rocket science, and I'm really getting tired
of you knit picking every single thing you can and finding
every single reason you can to decry not only skype, but the
tireless work both developers and end-users have done to get
it where it is today. I'm sorry, but either put up, or shut
On 20/11/2018 07:38, Octavian
Yes, that's true. In some
cases it might be faster to navigate in the web interface,
but the problem I see is that the web interface is not
standard, and anytime can appear something new in that
interface, advertising, a link there, a button elsewhere,
so we can't memorize that we need to press tab twice and
then enter and then do this fast without waiting for
screen reader to speak. I prefer the interfaces that never
change depending on context. For sighted it is not a
problem because they can see the entire window, they can
see the context very fast.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November
19, 2018 9:24 PM
[skypeenglish] New accessibility improvements in Skype 8.0
| Skype Blogs
I don't mind the web inerface, in fact, I find myself
navigating a lot faster in the web interface than the
older interface but thats just me.
On 19 Nov 2018, at 9:49, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Any improvement is
good, but these are small improvements while
bigger issues will never be solved.
The biggest issue:
Skype 8 uses a web interface.
This issue might be
worked around if the scripts will turn the
virtual buffer off automaticly and it will use
only the PC cursor, and of course, if this way
Skype will be fully accessible this way.
The best news is
that for the moment Skype 7 still works. Too bad
that it will probably stop working soon.
November 19, 2018 7:29 PM
[skypeenglish] New accessibility improvements in
Skype 8.0 | Skype Blogs