Hey Doug,
I once met a man who complained about free sex;
So why am I not surprised you get complaints about free Skype scrips!
LOL
Take care and keep the faith,
Mike, from SC
At 08:13 AM 10/9/2018, you wrote:
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The part that gets me almost
giggling resignedly here is that we're arguing over a program that costs
us nothing. People sometimes get mad at me for saying things like,
"The next version of the Skype scripts will no longer
support any JAWS versions older than 15.0." I do that when it lets
me do better things in scripting than the older JAWS versions allowed, or
when older JAWS versions simply can't handle the newest version of the
application.
But people generally have the sense to realize that I'm (1) not doing it
to hurt people, (2) am actually doing it for a reason, and (3) cannot be
called mean because I'm giving away for free what I'm doing
anyway.
The only time I can remember complaining about a change to a free program
was when Roger suddenly vanished with very little warning. My complaint
at that time was that they gave us little warning and also gave us
nowhere to go.
Microsoft has given us way plenty of warning and has also given us not
one, but two places to go (Skype 8 or Skype UWP). And despite a small
number of claims in this thread, we have absolutely solid and prolific
proof that at
least Skype 8 works well enough with both JAWS and NVDA to be usable. It
has its quirks, but so did Skype 7. So Microsoft gave us the easiest
feedback system for reporting them that I have ever seen, bar none: Open,
type into a
box, press Enter, done!
Finally, if anyone wanted to complain loudly, I think it should have been
me. My Command Line Interface for Skype, Clisk
(http://www.dlee.org/skype/clisk),
is completely unsupported after the end of this month. That's a loss
of
years of my time, at least arguably.
So why don't I yell about that one? Again, Microsoft gave plenty of
warning, good explanations for why they are doing what they're doing, and
even delayed Skype 7's demise partly because of one feature Clisk used,
that being
the ability to redirect and record sound from Skype. I will seriously
miss Clisk, but that is no reason to cry foul.
In conclusion, I'd say this Skype update should best be treated like a
hurricane; and that hurricane actually has a name: Cloud. Cloud
infrastructure is why this update is happening. Skype, as I said before,
is changing how it
communicates. It is starting to use a cloud structure. Skype 7 was not
ready for that and never will be. So Microsoft gave an evacuation order,
with several months' warning - which is unusual for a weather bulletin
lol. But
really, in this storm, if we cling to our islands, we truly will end up
lost at sea.
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 07:13:12AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
well, that's the trouble with Microsoft, who are they to tell us what to
do.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Oliver"
<blindman75@...>
To: <skypeenglish@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2018 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] refusal of ypdating to a new version of
Skype
> as has been stated in the official notice from ms, they will no
longer be
> supporting Skype 7 or classic as it's now known. this means that you
will
> either be forced to update, or your classic skype will begin to
stop
> working until it no longer works entirely.
>
>
>
> On 9/10/2018 12:49, Josephine Hirsch wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > What if you refused to update to a new version of Skype? I like
the
> > Skype Classic because it is easier for me to navigate on Skype
Classic
> > than Skype 8.30, and I could never get anyone to hear me on
Skype 8.30
> > any longer, and I tried everything and no go with Skype
8.30
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Josephine
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
--
Doug
Lee
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Access
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"The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men
to do
what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling
with
them while they do it."--Theodore Roosevelt
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