Re: help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

Shaun Oliver

furthermore, with the latest update to win10, narrator is becoming as comprehensive as any other screen access solution what with it's wider range of keystrokes and functionality. MS have really come a long way and started listening to the little people, rather than self serving organizations like NFB that had their own agenda, thus hobbeling MS's attempts at providing a workable solution for the better part of the last 18 years, at the very least.

On 5/10/2018 10:34, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I have to gree. I recently used narrator to troubleshoot some stuff a few months ago and it was very very doable. Go microsoft and go skype on all platforms. It really is a piece of cake to use and a fun and joyful experience.

Take care

On 4 Oct 2018, at 12:36, John Holcomb II wrote:

I think MS should actually be commended on their accessibility with Skype and their other products.
No company does everything perfect, but if I wanted to right now, I could walk up to any Windows 10 based computer and use it, and probably get Skype to work somehow accessibly too! I say somehow as I have not used narrator and Skype together, but they're all about making first party  software work well, and third party stuff too.

Now how amazing is that?

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

and by that reasoning, given the archives are public, and searchable by the internet as a whole, it is therefore, not beyond the realm of possibility that the afforementioned remarks would, I can say with almost 100% certainty, find their way back to the vendor that is being railed against, thus causing very real problems in the long run for those of us that are stern yet polite when we approach same to discuss overall improvements to accessibility for various applications we'd like to make good use of in the future. it is those kinds of comments and remarks and complaints about how not enough is being done and what is already there is nowhere near enough that causes devs on the whole to say, and please excuse my use of the more colorful, even if by initial only, "F you, we don't want to be bothered with it because it's too hard." when in reality, gaining accessibility is as much about attitude as developers willingness to accomodate.

so I am with Sarah 100% on this.

On 5/10/2018 02:03, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Lol. I'm the admin. I have to be nice. Hehahahahaha. I am also working
on my professional tone, which needs a lot of work.

And yes I do agree. One more  comment like that from anyone and they
will with out warning be placed on a 1 month moderation. We want to
make  the list  constructive and these archives by my choice are
public, so let's try and be civil here. If you don't like it, as my
teacher used to say, there's  the door. I do not want to moderate the
topic  but one more bad apple and it will either be moderated or
locked. You all have ben forewarned.

On 4 Oct 2018, at 9:08, Shaun Oliver wrote:

Thank you Sarah. I would not have even been as nice about it. as it
was, I’d already stated that it won’t happen due to the deprecated
API and unavailability of the SDK.

and really, Joseph, Comments such as to hell with microsoft are the
kinds of comments we could all quite frankly do without, simply
because MS, in recent times, has actually begun to carefully consider
accessibility and implement same, despite the bleeting from the NFB
wanting to keep accessibility firmly within the control of the
blindness community. and really people as a whole, accessibility is
not limited to blind people alone. we do not, nor wil we ever hold
the monopoly on accessibility needs, so I suggest we dispense with
the badmouthing, disparraging remarks, the complaining that this
isn’t predictable or how unfair it is that we’re losing hotkeys that
quite frankly nobody gives a rodent’s rectum about, and just learn
the new interface, build a bridge and get over it.

Sent from Shaun's iPad

On 5 Oct 2018, at 01:31, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I doubt they will, so until and if they do, learn skype 8 and learn
the key strokes, and learn your web keys. If you don't like it not
much you can  do but uninstall skype and use zoom or nothing at all.
Harsh, but true  in this case.

Take care

On 4 Oct 2018, at 3:14, Joseph Machise wrote:

Clare thanks hope they get GW back again under another name from
----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Page"
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

It's all very well to say that a keystroke such as alt+page up
should be added to the JAWS scripts of Skype 8, but that won't
help users of other screen-readers. I'm not sure that such a
keystroke is necessary anyway.
Doug's way of answering Skype calls seems rather complicated to me
, although that may make seeing who the caller is a bit easier. I
am lucky that the Skype calls I receive are from people I know,
and in most cases I have warning that I am going to receive a
call, so I go into the Skype window in Skype 8, which I tend to
leave open while Skype is running anyway, and press Tab till I
find the Answer button. There's a Decline button too, which comes
before the Answer button while tabbing through the window, so if
you don't want to take the incoming call, you can use that instead.
If you don't want to keep the Skype window open like I do, you can
minimise it with alt+f4 like you did in older versions of Skype,
and pressing Enter on the Skype icon on your desktop will open the
Skype window again. Since I rarely minimize the Skype window while
my Skype 8 is running, I don't know if an incoming call will make
that window appear, that's why I mentioned how to open it while
Skype is still running.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On
Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita
Sent: mercredi 3 octobre 2018 18:01
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

Hi Doug,

Can't be made a script that executes these hotkeys, a script
stored in default.jss?
If it would be possible, we could assign a hotkey for it, say
Alt+PgUp, and
one of the problems could be solved.

I hope that it is not a problem that the window uses a web widget,
because that can't be solved.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

The plan for taking an incoming call in Skype 8 is this:

1. Make a shortcut key that immediately puts focus on the Skype 8
Do this by assigning a shortcut key, such as Ctrl+Shift+Alt+K, to
the Skype 8 Desktop shortcut.

2. When a call comes in, type your shortcut, tab for caller ID,
then tab to the Answer button and press Space.

This is more keystrokes than Alt+PgUp was, but it is also less
prone to the, "Oh goodness, I did not mean to pick up that call!"
situation. This
situation would be my description of most calls I get, because of
spam calls that are made to my phone number, which I route
through Skype specifically so I
can handle such things intelligently.

On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 08:36:20AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
well dug until we get a new version of GW connect, and say the
hell with Microsoft do you have a hot key for answering a call
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

My experience says Ctrl+Shift+P never answered a call in Skype
8, but
if you happened to be displaying the same contact that called
you and you
typed Ctrl+Shift+P, Skype tried to initiate a call to that
person and
connected to the incoming call as a result. This could easily
give the
illusion that Ctrl+Shift+P answers calls if you are testing the
and thus are likely to be showing that exact contact when a call

On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 02:03:13PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
I'll try ctrl+shift+p the next time I sign in on Skype and a call
only used it for starting a call. Anyway I can confirm ctrl+e
for ending
call, I tested it sometimes.

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