Re: help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

Shaun Oliver

and by that reasoning, given the archives are public, and searchable by the internet as a whole, it is therefore, not beyond the realm of possibility that the afforementioned remarks would, I can say with almost 100% certainty, find their way back to the vendor that is being railed against, thus causing very real problems in the long run for those of us that are stern yet polite when we approach same to discuss overall improvements to accessibility for various applications we'd like to make good use of in the future. it is those kinds of comments and remarks and complaints about how not enough is being done and what is already there is nowhere near enough that causes devs on the whole to say, and please excuse my use of the more colorful, even if by initial only, "F you, we don't want to be bothered with it because it's too hard." when in reality, gaining accessibility is as much about attitude as developers willingness to accomodate.

so I am with Sarah 100% on this.

On 5/10/2018 02:03, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Lol. I'm the admin. I have to be nice. Hehahahahaha. I am also working on my professional tone, which needs a lot of work.

And yes I do agree. One more  comment like that from anyone and they will with out warning be placed on a 1 month moderation. We want to make  the list  constructive and these archives by my choice are public, so let's try and be civil here. If you don't like it, as my teacher used to say, there's  the door. I do not want to moderate the topic  but one more bad apple and it will either be moderated  or locked. You all have ben forewarned.

On 4 Oct 2018, at 9:08, Shaun Oliver wrote:

Thank you Sarah. I would not have even been as nice about it. as it was, I’d already stated that it won’t happen due to the deprecated API and unavailability of the SDK.

and really, Joseph, Comments such as to hell with microsoft are the kinds of comments we could all quite frankly do without, simply because MS, in recent times, has actually begun to carefully consider accessibility and implement same, despite the bleeting from the NFB wanting to keep accessibility firmly within the control of the blindness community. and really people as a whole, accessibility is not limited to blind people alone. we do not, nor wil we ever hold the monopoly on accessibility needs, so I suggest we dispense with the badmouthing, disparraging remarks, the complaining that this isn’t predictable or how unfair it is that we’re losing hotkeys that quite frankly nobody gives a rodent’s rectum about, and just learn the new interface, build a bridge and get over it.

Sent from Shaun's iPad

On 5 Oct 2018, at 01:31, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I doubt they will, so until and if they do, learn skype 8 and learn the key strokes, and learn your web keys. If you don't like it not much you can  do but uninstall skype and use zoom or nothing at all. Harsh, but true  in this case.

Take care

On 4 Oct 2018, at 3:14, Joseph Machise wrote:

Clare thanks hope they get GW back again under another name from Joseph.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Page" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

It's all very well to say that a keystroke such as alt+page up should be
added to the JAWS scripts of Skype 8, but that won't help users of other
screen-readers. I'm not sure that such a keystroke is necessary anyway.
Doug's way of answering Skype calls seems rather complicated to me ,
although that may make seeing who the caller is a bit easier. I am lucky
that the Skype calls I receive are from people I know, and in most cases I
have warning that I am going to receive a call, so I go into the Skype
window in Skype 8, which I tend to leave open while Skype is running anyway,
and press Tab till I find the Answer button. There's a Decline button too,
which comes before the Answer button while tabbing through the window, so if
you don't want to take the incoming call, you can use that instead.
If you don't want to keep the Skype window open like I do, you can minimise
it with alt+f4 like you did in older versions of Skype, and pressing Enter
on the Skype icon on your desktop will open the Skype window again. Since I
rarely minimize the Skype window while my Skype 8 is running, I don't know
if an incoming call will make that window appear, that's why I mentioned how
to open it while Skype is still running.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Octavian Rasnita
Sent: mercredi 3 octobre 2018 18:01
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

Hi Doug,

Can't be made a script that executes these hotkeys, a script stored in
If it would be possible, we could assign a hotkey for it, say Alt+PgUp, and
one of the problems could be solved.

I hope that it is not a problem that the window uses a web widget, because
that can't be solved.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

The plan for taking an incoming call in Skype 8 is this:

1. Make a shortcut key that immediately puts focus on the Skype 8 window.
Do this by assigning a shortcut key, such as Ctrl+Shift+Alt+K, to the
Skype 8 Desktop shortcut.

2. When a call comes in, type your shortcut, tab for caller ID, then tab
to the Answer button and press Space.

This is more keystrokes than Alt+PgUp was, but it is also less prone to
the, "Oh goodness, I did not mean to pick up that call!" situation. This
situation would be my description of most calls I get, because of spam
calls that
are made to my phone number, which I route through Skype specifically so I
can handle such things intelligently.

On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 08:36:20AM -0400, Joseph Machise wrote:
well dug until we get a new version of GW connect, and say the hell with
Microsoft do you have a hot key for answering a call
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl@...>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] help with the new 8.3 version of skype.

My experience says Ctrl+Shift+P never answered a call in Skype 8, but
if you happened to be displaying the same contact that called you and you
typed Ctrl+Shift+P, Skype tried to initiate a call to that person and
connected to the incoming call as a result. This could easily give the
illusion that Ctrl+Shift+P answers calls if you are testing the feature
and thus are likely to be showing that exact contact when a call arrives.

On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 02:03:13PM +0200, Michele Barbi wrote:
I'll try ctrl+shift+p the next time I sign in on Skype and a call
only used it for starting a call. Anyway I can confirm ctrl+e for ending
call, I tested it sometimes.

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