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Well, I believe you.
Maybe for you was a false
alarm, but for me it was not a false alarm at all.
TextPad works much much
worse under Windows 7 than under Windows XP, some lines of text are skipped,
some strange pieces of text are spoken by JAWS at the beginning of some lines, I
also tested many other editors and none of them have the features I need, the MS
DOS prompt is not read as well as under Windows XP in some cases etc.
these are not things I need rarely, but permanently in my day by day
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 1:52
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to See Another Day - Thurrott.com
Shaun and John.
Frankly, I thought changing from XP to Windows-7 would be difficult; Two
Words: False alarm.
Like you, John, I tend to stick with what works, until it doesn’t.
Looking at what Doug, Sarah and others have said, I’m sure I’ll figure
things out with the new Skype, with or without Windows 10.
Making the change from XP was Easy. I expect the same when the time
comes for w-10.
Things work a little different here in Canada when it comes to upgrades
with special software.
Difficult, but not impossible.
I’ll catch up in due time. You’re both right.
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft Backtracks, Classic Skype
Lives to See Another Day - Thurrott.com
and thank you john, you therefore prove my point, you know how to use it,
but by choice, you don't wish to, and that is your choice, which I
you are neither complaining for complaining sake, nor are you being
contrary and fighting change just because you prefer the status quo. again,
that, I respect.
On 10/08/2018 07:47, John Holcomb II
I’ve never had anyone
who I upgraded to Windows 10 have any issues.
And while I don’t use W10
as my primary driver, its close enough to windows 7 to work just fine. In
fact, narrator might be all some people need. And if any screene reader is
going to work great with skype over anything else, it’ll be first party
Also I think Doug
wouldn’t be putting out scripts and NVDA addons if skype did not work
And if something for some
reason didn’t work, he’d be the first person to tell us
Now I’ve e not upgraded
my Skype because I choose not to. Not because I think it won’t
work. There’s a difference.
Just like I choose
to stay on Windows 7. For my main driver.
But if someone slapped
Skype 8 and W 10 in front of me and said here are scripts, you have no
choice, I’m sure I could make it work. I’ve been using computers and screne
readers and know how to use the curcers to get around screen if
But all and all, I trust
Doug who made the scripts that he wouldn’t put out a
halfassed unworkable product.
I'm going to comment here, and I'm likely going to not only appear
contrary, but, quite harsh, and I make no appology for it. you have been
Firstly, Sarah is right. Skype 8, even though it is still called Skype
preview, is very easy to navigate. if you have experience navigating a web
style interface, you can navigate skype without issue. If you've yet to at
least gain competency in navigating a web interface or similar, then you
have nobody to blame but yourself for the issues you're facing navigating
Skype 8. I am talking collectively here I am not pointing the finger at any
Furthermore, the interface is no different under windows7 as it is, under
windows 10. As for windows 10 being unstable, Pardon my use of the colorful
vernacular, but, bullshit!
Unless you know what you speak of, hold your tongue and if you must offer
an oppinion, make it an informed oppinion not filled with supposition and
hearsay. Windows10 is quite stable. and as is with any other platform, yes,
things break. sometimes majorly when there's an update, but, the same is
true of both IOS and android and I might add, MacOSX.
Software developers now not only listen to feedback about accessibility
these days, but, they listen to feedback about what's broken and fix it in
fairly short order. So have a care how you speak, because unless your
oppinions are based on actual provable evidence, you are talking out of the
wrong orifice and need to give the other one a go.
On 10/08/2018 02:47, Sarah k Alawami
Actualy skype 8 for
windows is equally as good I learned it in about maybe 5 minutes of just
tinkering around. I use it every day on my youtube streams. If you don’t
believe me go to my youtube
page. I can get around it farily quickly with
On 7 Aug 2018, at 13:27,
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
takes geting used to".
Yes, but this,
and the fact that it doesn't have some features that Skype 7 has, makes
it worse than Skype 7. :)
Getting used to
something means effort and time consumed, and Skype 7 doesn't require
It is good to
consume time to learn something new that helps, but for the moment I've
seen only missing features in Skype 8, not new helpful things that we
can do with it.
It would be
great for example if it will have an API that can be used for sending
chat messages from programs.
I see you
compare Skype 8 with the version for Mac, but most Skype users use it
under Windows and they will probably never intend to use Mac, so for
them is not helpful at all if Skype 8 is similar with the one for Mac,
or if the Mac style of using the computer is more friendly with Skype 8,
or anything Mac related.
The truth is
that Skype 8 is much worse accessible than Skype 7 when it is used under
Windows with JAWS, and I guess that this is the most used
I don't know how
easy is to use it with Windows 10 yet, but from what I read from other
blind Windows 10 users, Windows 10 is not stable yet, and some updates
can damage some things until the next update, so this is also not very
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Tuesday, August 07, 2018 8:39 PM
Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to See
Another Day - Thurrott.com
true. I use it every day for my streams and my jobs. It is 100 percent
accessible and usable and just takes geting used to, so give it a
Aug 2018, at 20:34, Josephine Hirsch
version of Skype really sucks, and is hard to use with screenreaders
regardless if you have any type of impairment
10:09 PM, Kimmie wrote:
definitely put my feedback in there and told them to get their act
really good news.
like they’ve gotten some seriously negative feedback on the new
heard from people with sight that don’t like
August 06, 2018 2:00 PM
[skypeenglish] Microsoft Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to See
Another Day - Thurrott.com