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oh, I don't know all I'd like to, granted, but I know enough to
get by, I'm no software developer by any means, and I find I'm too
old to take such a project on, lol. not that 43 is overly old, but
I haven't the head for programming nor do I have the patients for
On 10/08/2018 08:54, Jerry Pryde wrote:
You know more about the high tech side of things.
All I know is, making the change was not the disaster I
expected, or was lead to believe.
So, I’m not really concerned either way.
A little help along the way, and not much of that, was
But, I am planning for an upgrade in the near future.
Furthermore, I’ve gotten lost of help as it is just
reading the threads.
So, Thank you all.
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to See Another Day -
that's not really a fair comparison, as there were
drastic changes between all of those, but win7, win8
win8.1 and win10, the core comands haven't changed much at
all. interface wise, there's some changes, but, they are
On 10/08/2018 08:30, Josephine
I also learned that from Windows 95 to Windows 98 to
Windows 2000 to XP to Vista to Windows 7 wasn't easy,
but it took a while to figure the commands on each OS.
On 8/9/2018 5:52 PM, Jerry
Shaun and John.
Frankly, I thought changing from XP to
Windows-7 would be difficult; Two Words: False
Like you, John, I tend to stick with what
works, until it doesn’t.
Looking at what Doug, Sarah and others have
said, I’m sure I’ll figure things out with the new
Skype, with or without Windows 10.
Making the change from XP was Easy. I expect
the same when the time comes for w-10.
Things work a little different here in Canada
when it comes to upgrades with special software.
Difficult, but not impossible.
I’ll catch up in due time. You’re both right.
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish]
Microsoft Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to
See Another Day - Thurrott.com
and thank you john, you therefore prove my
point, you know how to use it, but by choice,
you don't wish to, and that is your choice,
which I respect.
you are neither complaining for complaining
sake, nor are you being contrary and fighting
change just because you prefer the status quo.
again, that, I respect.
On 10/08/2018 07:47,
John Holcomb II wrote:
I’ve never had
anyone who I upgraded to Windows 10 have
And while I don’t
use W10 as my primary driver, its close
enough to windows 7 to work just fine. In
fact, narrator might be all some people
need. And if any screene reader is going
to work great with skype over anything
else, it’ll be first party hardware.
Also I think Doug
wouldn’t be putting out scripts and NVDA
addons if skype did not work with them.
And if something
for some reason didn’t work, he’d be the
first person to tell us here.
Now I’ve e not
upgraded my Skype because I choose not
to. Not because I think it won’t work.
There’s a difference.
Just like I choose
to stay on Windows 7. For my main driver.
But if someone
slapped Skype 8 and W 10 in front of me
and said here are scripts, you have no
choice, I’m sure I could make it work.
I’ve been using computers and screne
readers and know how to use the curcers
to get around screen if nothing else.
But all and all, I
trust Doug who made the scripts that he
wouldn’t put out a halfassed unworkable
I'm going to comment here, and I'm likely
going to not only appear contrary, but,
quite harsh, and I make no appology for it.
you have been warned.
Firstly, Sarah is right. Skype 8, even
though it is still called Skype preview, is
very easy to navigate. if you have
experience navigating a web style interface,
you can navigate skype without issue. If
you've yet to at least gain competency in
navigating a web interface or similar, then
you have nobody to blame but yourself for
the issues you're facing navigating Skype 8.
I am talking collectively here I am not
pointing the finger at any one individual.
Furthermore, the interface is no different
under windows7 as it is, under windows 10.
As for windows 10 being unstable, Pardon my
use of the colorful vernacular, but,
Unless you know what you speak of, hold
your tongue and if you must offer an
oppinion, make it an informed oppinion not
filled with supposition and hearsay.
Windows10 is quite stable. and as is with
any other platform, yes, things break.
sometimes majorly when there's an update,
but, the same is true of both IOS and
android and I might add, MacOSX.
Software developers now not only listen to
feedback about accessibility these days,
but, they listen to feedback about what's
broken and fix it in fairly short order. So
have a care how you speak, because unless
your oppinions are based on actual provable
evidence, you are talking out of the wrong
orifice and need to give the other one a go.
On 10/08/2018 02:47,
Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actualy skype 8 for windows is
equally as good I learned it in
about maybe 5 minutes of just
tinkering around. I use it every day
on my youtube streams. If you don’t
believe me go to my
youtube page. I can
get around it farily quickly with
On 7 Aug 2018, at 13:27,
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
takes geting used to".
but this, and the fact that it
doesn't have some features
that Skype 7 has, makes it
worse than Skype 7. :)
used to something means effort
and time consumed, and Skype 7
doesn't require this.
good to consume time to learn
something new that helps, but
for the moment I've seen only
missing features in Skype 8,
not new helpful things that we
can do with it.
would be great for example if
it will have an API that can
be used for sending chat
messages from programs.
you compare Skype 8 with the
version for Mac, but most
Skype users use it under
Windows and they will probably
never intend to use Mac, so
for them is not helpful at all
if Skype 8 is similar with the
one for Mac, or if the Mac
style of using the computer is
more friendly with Skype 8, or
anything Mac related.
truth is that Skype 8 is much
worse accessible than Skype 7
when it is used under Windows
with JAWS, and I guess that
this is the most used
know how easy is to use it
with Windows 10 yet, but from
what I read from other blind
Windows 10 users, Windows 10
is not stable yet, and some
updates can damage some things
until the next update, so this
is also not very useful.
Original Message -----
Tuesday, August 07, 2018
Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype
Lives to See Another Day -
Not true. I use it
every day for my streams
and my jobs. It is 100
percent accessible and
usable and just takes
geting used to, so give it
On 6 Aug 2018, at
20:34, Josephine Hirsch
new version of
Skype really sucks,
and is hard to use
regardless if you have
any type of impairment
8/6/2018 10:09 PM,
definitely put my
feedback in there
and told them to
get their act
06, 2018 2:00
Lives to See
Another Day -