there was never a win8.2
after win8.1, came windows10
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On 10/08/2018 08:47, Josephine Hirsch
wrote:
except I did not know very much about Windows 8.1 nor 8.2 nor
Windows tablets nor Windows mobilet
On 8/9/2018 6:15 PM, Shaun Oliver
wrote:
that's not really a fair comparison, as there were drastic
changes between all of those, but win7, win8 win8.1 and win10,
the core comands haven't changed much at all. interface wise,
there's some changes, but, they are not insurmountable.
On 10/08/2018 08:30, Josephine
Hirsch wrote:
I also learned that from Windows 95 to Windows 98 to
Windows 2000 to XP to Vista to Windows 7 wasn't easy, but it
took a while to figure the commands on each OS.
On 8/9/2018 5:52 PM, Jerry Pryde
wrote:
Shaun and John.
Absolutely correct.
Frankly, I thought changing from XP to Windows-7
would be difficult; Two Words: False alarm.
Like you, John, I tend to stick with what works,
until it doesn’t.
Looking at what Doug, Sarah and others have said,
I’m sure I’ll figure things out with the new Skype,
with or without Windows 10.
Making the change from XP was Easy. I expect the
same when the time comes for w-10.
Things work a little different here in Canada when
it comes to upgrades with special software.
Difficult, but not impossible.
I’ll catch up in due time. You’re both right.
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 6:45
PM
Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to See Another
Day - Thurrott.com
and thank you john, you therefore prove my point,
you know how to use it, but by choice, you don't
wish to, and that is your choice, which I respect.
you are neither complaining for complaining sake,
nor are you being contrary and fighting change just
because you prefer the status quo. again, that, I
respect.
On 10/08/2018 07:47, John
Holcomb II wrote:
I’ve never had anyone
who I upgraded to Windows 10 have any issues.
And while I don’t use
W10 as my primary driver, its close enough to
windows 7 to work just fine. In fact, narrator
might be all some people need. And if any
screene reader is going to work great with
skype over anything else, it’ll be first party
hardware.
Also I think Doug
wouldn’t be putting out scripts and NVDA
addons if skype did not work with them.
And if something for
some reason didn’t work, he’d be the first
person to tell us here.
Now I’ve e not upgraded
my Skype because I choose not to. Not because
I think it won’t work. There’s a difference.
Just like I choose to
stay on Windows 7. For my main driver.
But if someone slapped
Skype 8 and W 10 in front of me and said here
are scripts, you have no choice, I’m sure I
could make it work. I’ve been using computers
and screne readers and know how to use the
curcers to get around screen if nothing else.
But all and all, I
trust Doug who made the scripts that he
wouldn’t put out a halfassed unworkable
product.
John
I'm going to comment here, and I'm likely going
to not only appear contrary, but, quite harsh,
and I make no appology for it. you have been
warned.
Firstly, Sarah is right. Skype 8, even though
it is still called Skype preview, is very easy
to navigate. if you have experience navigating a
web style interface, you can navigate skype
without issue. If you've yet to at least gain
competency in navigating a web interface or
similar, then you have nobody to blame but
yourself for the issues you're facing navigating
Skype 8. I am talking collectively here I am not
pointing the finger at any one individual.
Furthermore, the interface is no different
under windows7 as it is, under windows 10. As
for windows 10 being unstable, Pardon my use of
the colorful vernacular, but, bullshit!
Unless you know what you speak of, hold your
tongue and if you must offer an oppinion, make
it an informed oppinion not filled with
supposition and hearsay. Windows10 is quite
stable. and as is with any other platform, yes,
things break. sometimes majorly when there's an
update, but, the same is true of both IOS and
android and I might add, MacOSX.
Software developers now not only listen to
feedback about accessibility these days, but,
they listen to feedback about what's broken and
fix it in fairly short order. So have a care how
you speak, because unless your oppinions are
based on actual provable evidence, you are
talking out of the wrong orifice and need to
give the other one a go.
On 10/08/2018 02:47, Sarah
k Alawami wrote:
Actualy skype 8 for windows is
equally as good I learned it in about
maybe 5 minutes of just tinkering
around. I use it every day on my youtube
streams. If you don’t believe me go to my
youtube page. I can get
around it farily quickly with nvda.
On 7 Aug 2018, at 13:27, Octavian
Rasnita wrote:
"just
takes geting used to".
Yes, but
this, and the fact that it doesn't
have some features that Skype 7
has, makes it worse than Skype 7.
:)
Getting
used to something means effort and
time consumed, and Skype 7 doesn't
require this.
It is good
to consume time to learn something
new that helps, but for the moment
I've seen only missing features in
Skype 8, not new helpful things
that we can do with it.
It would be
great for example if it will have
an API that can be used for
sending chat messages from
programs.
I see you
compare Skype 8 with the version
for Mac, but most Skype users use
it under Windows and they will
probably never intend to use Mac,
so for them is not helpful at all
if Skype 8 is similar with the one
for Mac, or if the Mac style of
using the computer is more
friendly with Skype 8, or anything
Mac related.
The truth
is that Skype 8 is much worse
accessible than Skype 7 when it is
used under Windows with JAWS, and
I guess that this is the most used
combination.
I don't
know how easy is to use it with
Windows 10 yet, but from what I
read from other blind Windows 10
users, Windows 10 is not stable
yet, and some updates can damage
some things until the next update,
so this is also not very useful.
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Sent:
Tuesday, August 07, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject:
Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives
to See Another Day -
Thurrott.com
Not true. I use it every
day for my streams and my
jobs. It is 100 percent
accessible and usable and just
takes geting used to, so give
it a chance.
On 6 Aug 2018, at 20:34,
Josephine Hirsch wrote:
new version of Skype
really sucks, and is hard
to use with screenreaders
regardless if you have any
type of impairment
On
8/6/2018 10:09 PM,
Kimmie wrote:
Yeah I definitely
put my feedback in
there and told them to
get their act
together.
This is
really good
news.
It sounds
like they’ve
gotten some
seriously
negative
feedback on the
new version.
I’ve even
heard from
people with
sight that don’t
like it.
Sent:
Monday, August
06, 2018 2:00
PM
Subject:
[skypeenglish]
Microsoft
Backtracks,
Classic Skype
Lives to See
Another Day -
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