except I did not know very much about Windows 8.1 nor 8.2 nor
Windows tablets nor Windows mobilet
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On 8/9/2018 6:15 PM, Shaun Oliver
that's not really a fair comparison, as there were drastic
changes between all of those, but win7, win8 win8.1 and win10,
the core comands haven't changed much at all. interface wise,
there's some changes, but, they are not insurmountable.
On 10/08/2018 08:30, Josephine Hirsch
I also learned that from Windows 95 to Windows 98 to Windows
2000 to XP to Vista to Windows 7 wasn't easy, but it took a
while to figure the commands on each OS.
On 8/9/2018 5:52 PM, Jerry Pryde
Shaun and John.
Frankly, I thought changing from XP to Windows-7
would be difficult; Two Words: False alarm.
Like you, John, I tend to stick with what works,
until it doesn’t.
Looking at what Doug, Sarah and others have said, I’m
sure I’ll figure things out with the new Skype, with or
without Windows 10.
Making the change from XP was Easy. I expect the
same when the time comes for w-10.
Things work a little different here in Canada when it
comes to upgrades with special software.
Difficult, but not impossible.
I’ll catch up in due time. You’re both right.
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Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to See Another Day
and thank you john, you therefore prove my point, you
know how to use it, but by choice, you don't wish to,
and that is your choice, which I respect.
you are neither complaining for complaining sake, nor
are you being contrary and fighting change just
because you prefer the status quo. again, that, I
On 10/08/2018 07:47, John
Holcomb II wrote:
I’ve never had anyone
who I upgraded to Windows 10 have any issues.
And while I don’t use W10
as my primary driver, its close enough to
windows 7 to work just fine. In fact, narrator
might be all some people need. And if any
screene reader is going to work great with skype
over anything else, it’ll be first party
Also I think Doug
wouldn’t be putting out scripts and NVDA addons
if skype did not work with them.
And if something for some
reason didn’t work, he’d be the first person to
tell us here.
Now I’ve e not upgraded
my Skype because I choose not to. Not because I
think it won’t work. There’s a difference.
Just like I choose to
stay on Windows 7. For my main driver.
But if someone slapped
Skype 8 and W 10 in front of me and said here
are scripts, you have no choice, I’m sure I
could make it work. I’ve been using computers
and screne readers and know how to use the
curcers to get around screen if nothing else.
But all and all, I trust
Doug who made the scripts that he wouldn’t put
out a halfassed unworkable product.
I'm going to comment here, and I'm likely going
to not only appear contrary, but, quite harsh, and
I make no appology for it. you have been warned.
Firstly, Sarah is right. Skype 8, even though it
is still called Skype preview, is very easy to
navigate. if you have experience navigating a web
style interface, you can navigate skype without
issue. If you've yet to at least gain competency
in navigating a web interface or similar, then you
have nobody to blame but yourself for the issues
you're facing navigating Skype 8. I am talking
collectively here I am not pointing the finger at
any one individual.
Furthermore, the interface is no different under
windows7 as it is, under windows 10. As for
windows 10 being unstable, Pardon my use of the
colorful vernacular, but, bullshit!
Unless you know what you speak of, hold your
tongue and if you must offer an oppinion, make it
an informed oppinion not filled with supposition
and hearsay. Windows10 is quite stable. and as is
with any other platform, yes, things break.
sometimes majorly when there's an update, but, the
same is true of both IOS and android and I might
Software developers now not only listen to
feedback about accessibility these days, but, they
listen to feedback about what's broken and fix it
in fairly short order. So have a care how you
speak, because unless your oppinions are based on
actual provable evidence, you are talking out of
the wrong orifice and need to give the other one a
On 10/08/2018 02:47, Sarah k
Actualy skype 8 for windows is
equally as good I learned it in about
maybe 5 minutes of just tinkering around.
I use it every day on my youtube streams.
If you don’t believe me go to my youtube
page. I can get around it
farily quickly with nvda.
On 7 Aug 2018, at 13:27, Octavian
takes geting used to".
this, and the fact that it doesn't
have some features that Skype 7 has,
makes it worse than Skype 7. :)
to something means effort and time
consumed, and Skype 7 doesn't
It is good to
consume time to learn something new
that helps, but for the moment I've
seen only missing features in Skype
8, not new helpful things that we
can do with it.
It would be
great for example if it will have an
API that can be used for sending
chat messages from programs.
I see you
compare Skype 8 with the version for
Mac, but most Skype users use it
under Windows and they will probably
never intend to use Mac, so for them
is not helpful at all if Skype 8 is
similar with the one for Mac, or if
the Mac style of using the computer
is more friendly with Skype 8, or
anything Mac related.
The truth is
that Skype 8 is much worse
accessible than Skype 7 when it is
used under Windows with JAWS, and I
guess that this is the most used
I don't know
how easy is to use it with Windows
10 yet, but from what I read from
other blind Windows 10 users,
Windows 10 is not stable yet, and
some updates can damage some things
until the next update, so this is
also not very useful.
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Tuesday, August 07, 2018 8:39 PM
Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to
See Another Day - Thurrott.com
Not true. I use it every
day for my streams and my jobs.
It is 100 percent accessible and
usable and just takes geting
used to, so give it a chance.
On 6 Aug 2018, at 20:34,
Josephine Hirsch wrote:
new version of Skype
really sucks, and is hard to
use with screenreaders
regardless if you have any
type of impairment
8/6/2018 10:09 PM, Kimmie
Yeah I definitely
put my feedback in there
and told them to get
their act together.
really good news.
feedback on the
heard from people
with sight that
don’t like it.
06, 2018 2:00
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