that's not really a fair comparison, as there were drastic
changes between all of those, but win7, win8 win8.1 and win10, the
core comands haven't changed much at all. interface wise, there's
some changes, but, they are not insurmountable.
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On 10/08/2018 08:30, Josephine Hirsch
wrote:
I also learned that from Windows 95 to Windows 98 to Windows
2000 to XP to Vista to Windows 7 wasn't easy, but it took a
while to figure the commands on each OS.
On 8/9/2018 5:52 PM, Jerry Pryde
wrote:
Shaun and John.
Absolutely correct.
Frankly, I thought changing from XP to Windows-7 would
be difficult; Two Words: False alarm.
Like you, John, I tend to stick with what works, until
it doesn’t.
Looking at what Doug, Sarah and others have said, I’m
sure I’ll figure things out with the new Skype, with or
without Windows 10.
Making the change from XP was Easy. I expect the same
when the time comes for w-10.
Things work a little different here in Canada when it
comes to upgrades with special software.
Difficult, but not impossible.
I’ll catch up in due time. You’re both right.
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and thank you john, you therefore prove my point, you
know how to use it, but by choice, you don't wish to,
and that is your choice, which I respect.
you are neither complaining for complaining sake, nor
are you being contrary and fighting change just because
you prefer the status quo. again, that, I respect.
On 10/08/2018 07:47, John
Holcomb II wrote:
I’ve never had anyone who
I upgraded to Windows 10 have any issues.
And while I don’t use W10
as my primary driver, its close enough to windows
7 to work just fine. In fact, narrator might be
all some people need. And if any screene reader is
going to work great with skype over anything else,
it’ll be first party hardware.
Also I think Doug wouldn’t
be putting out scripts and NVDA addons if skype
did not work with them.
And if something for some
reason didn’t work, he’d be the first person to
tell us here.
Now I’ve e not upgraded my
Skype because I choose not to. Not because I
think it won’t work. There’s a difference.
Just like I choose to stay
on Windows 7. For my main driver.
But if someone slapped
Skype 8 and W 10 in front of me and said here are
scripts, you have no choice, I’m sure I could make
it work. I’ve been using computers and screne
readers and know how to use the curcers to get
around screen if nothing else.
But all and all, I trust
Doug who made the scripts that he wouldn’t put
out a halfassed unworkable product.
John
I'm going to comment here, and I'm likely going to
not only appear contrary, but, quite harsh, and I
make no appology for it. you have been warned.
Firstly, Sarah is right. Skype 8, even though it is
still called Skype preview, is very easy to
navigate. if you have experience navigating a web
style interface, you can navigate skype without
issue. If you've yet to at least gain competency in
navigating a web interface or similar, then you have
nobody to blame but yourself for the issues you're
facing navigating Skype 8. I am talking collectively
here I am not pointing the finger at any one
individual.
Furthermore, the interface is no different under
windows7 as it is, under windows 10. As for windows
10 being unstable, Pardon my use of the colorful
vernacular, but, bullshit!
Unless you know what you speak of, hold your tongue
and if you must offer an oppinion, make it an
informed oppinion not filled with supposition and
hearsay. Windows10 is quite stable. and as is with
any other platform, yes, things break. sometimes
majorly when there's an update, but, the same is
true of both IOS and android and I might add,
MacOSX.
Software developers now not only listen to feedback
about accessibility these days, but, they listen to
feedback about what's broken and fix it in fairly
short order. So have a care how you speak, because
unless your oppinions are based on actual provable
evidence, you are talking out of the wrong orifice
and need to give the other one a go.
On 10/08/2018 02:47, Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
Actualy skype 8 for windows is equally
as good I learned it in about maybe 5
minutes of just tinkering around. I use it
every day on my youtube streams. If you
don’t believe me go to my youtube
page. I can get around it
farily quickly with nvda.
On 7 Aug 2018, at 13:27, Octavian
Rasnita wrote:
"just
takes geting used to".
Yes, but this,
and the fact that it doesn't have some
features that Skype 7 has, makes it
worse than Skype 7. :)
Getting used to
something means effort and time
consumed, and Skype 7 doesn't require
this.
It is good to
consume time to learn something new
that helps, but for the moment I've
seen only missing features in Skype 8,
not new helpful things that we can do
with it.
It would be
great for example if it will have an
API that can be used for sending chat
messages from programs.
I see you
compare Skype 8 with the version for
Mac, but most Skype users use it under
Windows and they will probably never
intend to use Mac, so for them is not
helpful at all if Skype 8 is similar
with the one for Mac, or if the Mac
style of using the computer is more
friendly with Skype 8, or anything Mac
related.
The truth is
that Skype 8 is much worse accessible
than Skype 7 when it is used under
Windows with JAWS, and I guess that
this is the most used combination.
I don't know
how easy is to use it with Windows 10
yet, but from what I read from other
blind Windows 10 users, Windows 10 is
not stable yet, and some updates can
damage some things until the next
update, so this is also not very
useful.
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Not true. I use it every day
for my streams and my jobs. It is
100 percent accessible and usable
and just takes geting used to, so
give it a chance.
On 6 Aug 2018, at 20:34,
Josephine Hirsch wrote:
new version of Skype
really sucks, and is hard to
use with screenreaders
regardless if you have any
type of impairment
On
8/6/2018 10:09 PM, Kimmie
wrote:
Yeah I definitely put
my feedback in there and
told them to get their act
together.
This is really
good news.
It sounds like
they’ve gotten some
seriously negative
feedback on the new
version.
I’ve even heard
from people with
sight that don’t
like it.
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06, 2018 2:00
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