I also learned that from Windows 95 to Windows 98 to Windows 2000
to XP to Vista to Windows 7 wasn't easy, but it took a while to
figure the commands on each OS.
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On 8/9/2018 5:52 PM, Jerry Pryde wrote:
Shaun and John.
Absolutely correct.
Frankly, I thought changing from XP to Windows-7 would be
difficult; Two Words: False alarm.
Like you, John, I tend to stick with what works, until it
doesn’t.
Looking at what Doug, Sarah and others have said, I’m
sure I’ll figure things out with the new Skype, with or
without Windows 10.
Making the change from XP was Easy. I expect the same
when the time comes for w-10.
Things work a little different here in Canada when it
comes to upgrades with special software.
Difficult, but not impossible.
I’ll catch up in due time. You’re both right.
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Subject: Re: [skypeenglish] Microsoft
Backtracks, Classic Skype Lives to See Another Day -
Thurrott.com
and thank you john, you therefore prove my point, you
know how to use it, but by choice, you don't wish to, and
that is your choice, which I respect.
you are neither complaining for complaining sake, nor are
you being contrary and fighting change just because you
prefer the status quo. again, that, I respect.
On 10/08/2018 07:47, John
Holcomb II wrote:
I’ve never had anyone who I
upgraded to Windows 10 have any issues.
And while I don’t use W10 as
my primary driver, its close enough to windows 7 to
work just fine. In fact, narrator might be all some
people need. And if any screene reader is going to
work great with skype over anything else, it’ll be
first party hardware.
Also I think Doug wouldn’t be
putting out scripts and NVDA addons if skype did
not work with them.
And if something for some
reason didn’t work, he’d be the first person to tell
us here.
Now I’ve e not upgraded my
Skype because I choose not to. Not because I think
it won’t work. There’s a difference.
Just like I choose to stay
on Windows 7. For my main driver.
But if someone slapped Skype
8 and W 10 in front of me and said here are scripts,
you have no choice, I’m sure I could make it work.
I’ve been using computers and screne readers and
know how to use the curcers to get around screen if
nothing else.
But all and all, I trust
Doug who made the scripts that he wouldn’t put out
a halfassed unworkable product.
John
I'm going to comment here, and I'm likely going to
not only appear contrary, but, quite harsh, and I make
no appology for it. you have been warned.
Firstly, Sarah is right. Skype 8, even though it is
still called Skype preview, is very easy to navigate.
if you have experience navigating a web style
interface, you can navigate skype without issue. If
you've yet to at least gain competency in navigating a
web interface or similar, then you have nobody to
blame but yourself for the issues you're facing
navigating Skype 8. I am talking collectively here I
am not pointing the finger at any one individual.
Furthermore, the interface is no different under
windows7 as it is, under windows 10. As for windows 10
being unstable, Pardon my use of the colorful
vernacular, but, bullshit!
Unless you know what you speak of, hold your tongue
and if you must offer an oppinion, make it an informed
oppinion not filled with supposition and hearsay.
Windows10 is quite stable. and as is with any other
platform, yes, things break. sometimes majorly when
there's an update, but, the same is true of both IOS
and android and I might add, MacOSX.
Software developers now not only listen to feedback
about accessibility these days, but, they listen to
feedback about what's broken and fix it in fairly
short order. So have a care how you speak, because
unless your oppinions are based on actual provable
evidence, you are talking out of the wrong orifice and
need to give the other one a go.
On 10/08/2018 02:47, Sarah k
Alawami wrote:
Actualy skype 8 for windows is equally as
good I learned it in about maybe 5 minutes of
just tinkering around. I use it every day on
my youtube streams. If you don’t believe me go
to my youtube
page. I can get around it
farily quickly with nvda.
On 7 Aug 2018, at 13:27, Octavian Rasnita
wrote:
"just
takes geting used to".
Yes, but this,
and the fact that it doesn't have some
features that Skype 7 has, makes it
worse than Skype 7. :)
Getting used to
something means effort and time
consumed, and Skype 7 doesn't require
this.
It is good to
consume time to learn something new that
helps, but for the moment I've seen only
missing features in Skype 8, not new
helpful things that we can do with it.
It would be great
for example if it will have an API that
can be used for sending chat messages
from programs.
I see you compare
Skype 8 with the version for Mac, but
most Skype users use it under Windows
and they will probably never intend to
use Mac, so for them is not helpful at
all if Skype 8 is similar with the one
for Mac, or if the Mac style of using
the computer is more friendly with Skype
8, or anything Mac related.
The truth is that
Skype 8 is much worse accessible than
Skype 7 when it is used under Windows
with JAWS, and I guess that this is the
most used combination.
I don't know how
easy is to use it with Windows 10 yet,
but from what I read from other blind
Windows 10 users, Windows 10 is not
stable yet, and some updates can damage
some things until the next update, so
this is also not very useful.
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Not true. I use it every day
for my streams and my jobs. It is
100 percent accessible and usable
and just takes geting used to, so
give it a chance.
On 6 Aug 2018, at 20:34,
Josephine Hirsch wrote:
new version of Skype really
sucks, and is hard to use with
screenreaders regardless if you
have any type of impairment
On
8/6/2018 10:09 PM, Kimmie
wrote:
Yeah I definitely put
my feedback in there and
told them to get their act
together.
This is really
good news.
It sounds like
they’ve gotten some
seriously negative
feedback on the new
version.
I’ve even heard
from people with sight
that don’t like it.
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06, 2018 2:00 PM
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